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ab2cmiller

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Would be the same

If boycotting Bud Light meant running Bud Light trucks off the road

If boycotting Target meant keying cars outside of Target

If boycotting NFL meant blowing up cars outside of an NFL game
 

BuaConstrictor

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Would be the same

If boycotting Bud Light meant running Bud Light trucks off the road

If boycotting Target meant keying cars outside of Target

If boycotting NFL meant blowing up cars outside of an NFL game
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Did Republicans firebomb Targets and Bud light factories or destroy the property of people who did shop and buy those products en masse?
Funny you should ask - Target stores attacked by homophobes after backlash to Pride collection

Who knows that actual damage or number because defending LGBTQ people isn't really en vogue. It would certainly help if the owner of Twitter also owned Target/Bud Light and could spam everyone with each little incident.

We're used to LGBTQ people being subjected to violence, we aren't used to car owners facing it. Not saying it's "right".
 

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Funny you should ask - Target stores attacked by homophobes after backlash to Pride collection

Who knows that actual damage or number because defending LGBTQ people isn't really en vogue. It would certainly help if the owner of Twitter also owned Target/Bud Light and could spam everyone with each little incident.

We're used to LGBTQ people being subjected to violence, we aren't used to car owners facing it. Not saying it's "right".
Fair points, I was not tracking the specifics of the Target situation because I was underwater the entire time it was boiling up, but I hadn't remembered as wide spread of a campaign of destruction that we are seeing with Tesla.
 

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I’m late to the party but this is a nothing burger. Most checks are done by contractors. People doing these checks are usually credentialed by 3 letter agencies and DOD. The checks done by either are just as intrusive as the next. The only difference is the credentials they carry that day.
 

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Fair points, I was not tracking the specifics of the Target situation because I was underwater the entire time it was boiling up, but I hadn't remembered as wide spread of a campaign of destruction that we are seeing with Tesla.
Yeah I have no clue on measuring the two situations. I think (personally) that there is no such thing as ethical consumption under capitalism, meaning that no matter what you will find something "off" about that company (to varying degrees). So when innocent people are facing backlash for the owner's decisions it hurts people in the middle of it.

All this to say - withholding from purchasing products or services is much better to the cause than lashing out at the innocent people who are either working a job to make ends meat or people who just like the product.
 

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Why do those disgruntled employees keep doing this?!
Not elevating the careers of servicemembers over others based on race and sex is sort of the MO. "Before January, the website included lists of prominent Black people and famous women buried at Arlington. While the individual graves still turn up on website searches, lists grouping the dead by race or gender do not."

That is the sort of divisive grouping by race and gender that people on the right want to get rid of. Completely erasing the accomplishments of specific units just because of their race or gender is not what the anti-DEI purge is meant to accomplish.
 

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I don't believe that was MAGA calling for boycotts at Target.

 
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Your typical strawman dishonesty, as usual. The issue isn't with liberals boycotting Tesla. That's 100% their right. The issue is with liberals firebombing dealerships, destroying charging stations, keying people's cars, and threatening or even assaulting Tesla owners. Conservatives didn't firebomb NFL stadiums or assault people for going to games, didn't firebomb Bud distribution centers, nor burn down Targets.
 

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Your typical strawman dishonesty, as usual. The issue isn't with liberals boycotting Tesla. That's 100% their right. The issue is with liberals firebombing dealerships, destroying charging stations, keying people's cars, and threatening or even assaulting Tesla owners. Conservatives didn't firebomb NFL stadiums or assault people for going to games, didn't firebomb Bud distribution centers, nor burn down Targets.
It's a meme, look at all the MAGA folks that were upset people didn't like Tesla prior to the vandalism.

I think everyone is still waiting for you to engage GATTAC in a fact, well sourced, and logical conversation in the Economy thread.
 
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It's a meme, look at all the MAGA folks that were upset people didn't like Tesla prior to the vandalism.

I think everyone is still waiting for you to engage GATTAC in a fact, well sourced, and logical conversation in the Economy thread.
I mean Tesla chargers have been getting cut for years from those on the right
 
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ab2cmiller

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I mean Tesla chargers have been getting cut for years from this on the right
Would like to see some more info on this one. I tried a search and didn't come up with much. Some people saying it was conservatives vandalizing and some people saying it was thieves just wanting the copper to sell for scrap. Granted, this all appeared to be on Reddit. LOL Like I said, I didn't find much.
 
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