Trump Presidency Round 2

[Blazers46]

Good for all of us pathetic people attending the event.

 

[TorontoGold]

What terror group is he the leader of?

Just so you can say what you really mean and think.

His administration.

 

[NDVirginia19]

How openly people with little access to the actual details of Israel’s operations and only what they receive from the press (who source it from Hamas themselves) like to call the Israeli government genocidal or terroristic is really fucking funny lol

 

[TorontoGold]

How openly people with little access to the actual details of Israel’s operations and only what they receive from the press (who source it from Hamas themselves) like to call the Israeli government genocidal or terroristic is really fucking funny lol

lol yeah I'll trust the UN over a random assortment of people who have never been able to put together a coherent thought process or that have a basic understanding of Israel (Sea Turtle has this understanding but the rest do not). Still waiting to here how people square up the treatment of mizrahi and sephardic jews historically by the Israeli government, they won't because they lack the fundamental ability to move past "I see brown guy therefore terrorist" viewpoint. I don't even need to argue on behalf of Palestinian people (we know how this board feels about Muslim people), look at the treatment that arab jews have under Bibi, since this board loves trusting anecdotal stories I have a good friend who's sephardic and experienced a ton of discrimination when he moved to Israel for high school and university but came back to Toronto. So, yeah, maybe take it up with the clown car on not understanding the actual details of Israel's operations.

https://www.un.org/unispal/document/icc-arrest-warrant-netanyahu-21nov24/

 

[NDVirginia19]

The UN Human Rights Council, as an example, has Afghanistan, Russia, and China (as a couple of notable examples). I think it's safe to say everything out of that organization is garbage. The UN has passed over double the amount of resolutions condemning Israel as they have all other nations COMBINED in the past ten years. Do you think that 2x the condemnable actions around the world happen in Israel?

The UN literally has an organization whose funding and members PARTICIPATED IN October 7th and continued rocket strikes into Israel.

It's like trusting in Lou Holtz to give accurate analysis of Notre Dame football.


Are the Israelis perfect? No, I think the settlements on the west bank are bad and there are plenty of cases you could point to where they have crossed lines or acted too heavy handedly. That being said, they have dozens of neighbors who have it in their mission statement to kill every jew and eliminate their country and are constantly under threat of bombardment or worse. Calling Netanyahu a terrorist is just plain stupid.

 

[Irish#1]

lol yeah I'll trust the UN over a random assortment of people who have never been able to put together a coherent thought process or that have a basic understanding of Israel (Sea Turtle has this understanding but the rest do not). Still waiting to here how people square up the treatment of mizrahi and sephardic jews historically by the Israeli government, they won't because they lack the fundamental ability to move past "I see brown guy therefore terrorist" viewpoint. I don't even need to argue on behalf of Palestinian people (we know how this board feels about Muslim people), look at the treatment that arab jews have under Bibi, since this board loves trusting anecdotal stories I have a good friend who's sephardic and experienced a ton of discrimination when he moved to Israel for high school and university but came back to Toronto. So, yeah, maybe take it up with the clown car on not understanding the actual details of Israel's operations.

https://www.un.org/unispal/document/icc-arrest-warrant-netanyahu-21nov24/

You’re not even close, but I do appreciate you spinning up the Vortex to muddy the waters.

 

[TorontoGold]

You’re not even close, but I do appreciate you spinning up the Vortex to muddy the waters.

Why can’t you respond to my previous responses to you. I’ve asked twice for what you meant and you’ve ignored it twice. Smartest guy and vortex aren’t answers.

 

[TorontoGold]

The UN Human Rights Council, as an example, has Afghanistan, Russia, and China (as a couple of notable examples). I think it's safe to say everything out of that organization is garbage. The UN has passed over double the amount of resolutions condemning Israel as they have all other nations COMBINED in the past ten years. Do you think that 2x the condemnable actions around the world happen in Israel?

The UN literally has an organization whose funding and members PARTICIPATED IN October 7th and continued rocket strikes into Israel.

It's like trusting in Lou Holtz to give accurate analysis of Notre Dame football.


Are the Israelis perfect? No, I think the settlements on the west bank are bad and there are plenty of cases you could point to where they have crossed lines or acted too heavy handedly. That being said, they have dozens of neighbors who have it in their mission statement to kill every jew and eliminate their country and are constantly under threat of bombardment or worse. Calling Netanyahu a terrorist is just plain stupid.

So essentially because other countries leadership are bad we can’t also say this country has bad leadership too lol. I know you can walk and chew gum (the others who liked the post can not) so it’s a complete simplification of the conflict to just hand wave away and issues with the Israeli government.

Like I’ve stated before, if they even followed the process that GWB had in the Middle East they’d have significantly less civilian causalities.

There is no “superior culture” that some here like to think of when they see someone’s ethnicity, just material conditions. I have no doubt that the same people running CHOP or J6 would be riding around with AK’s if they were dropped into Kandahar. So if you’re ok excusing the behavior happening now, what’s the point of taking half measures and going for a ceasefire? Right, you’re convinced that these people will just try to kill you, so just kill the entire population. That’s essentially the argument.

 

[NDVirginia19]

So essentially because other countries leadership are bad we can’t also say this country has bad leadership too lol. I know you can walk and chew gum (the others who liked the post can not) so it’s a complete simplification of the conflict to just hand wave away and issues with the Israeli government.

Like I’ve stated before, if they even followed the process that GWB had in the Middle East they’d have significantly less civilian causalities.

There is no “superior culture” that some here like to think of when they see someone’s ethnicity, just material conditions. I have no doubt that the same people running CHOP or J6 would be riding around with AK’s if they were dropped into Kandahar. So if you’re ok excusing the behavior happening now, what’s the point of taking half measures and going for a ceasefire? Right, you’re convinced that these people will just try to kill you, so just kill the entire population. That’s essentially the argument.

Yeah I’m in favor of no ceasefire until every member of Hamas is killed. People may just be uncomfortable with understanding or admitting to themselves how many Gazans are in Hamas.

 

[drayer54]

So essentially because other countries leadership are bad we can’t also say this country has bad leadership too lol. I know you can walk and chew gum (the others who liked the post can not) so it’s a complete simplification of the conflict to just hand wave away and issues with the Israeli government.

Like I’ve stated before, if they even followed the process that GWB had in the Middle East they’d have significantly less civilian causalities.

There is no “superior culture” that some here like to think of when they see someone’s ethnicity, just material conditions. I have no doubt that the same people running CHOP or J6 would be riding around with AK’s if they were dropped into Kandahar. So if you’re ok excusing the behavior happening now, what’s the point of taking half measures and going for a ceasefire? Right, you’re convinced that these people will just try to kill you, so just kill the entire population. That’s essentially the argument.

On Oct 7 we saw people who got massacred and people who dragged bodies through the streets and slapped the bodies with shoes. Not all cultures are equal.

Yeah I’m in favor of no ceasefire until every member of Hamas is killed. People may just be uncomfortable with understanding or admitting to themselves how many Gazans are in Hamas.

100% - they aren’t fixable except by bomb or bullet.

 

[IrishLax]

Sigh.



As a country, I have no idea what we are doing when when a foreign enemy can buy political influence this easily. Applies yo both parties.

 

[NDVirginia19]

Sigh.



As a country, I have no idea what we are doing when when a foreign enemy can buy political influence this easily. Applies yo both parties.

Absolutely asinine. Shows how dangerous the PRC’s Information Operations campaign has been. 80% + of Congress voted to do this and China refusing to sell at high offers shows it’s not about the money they get from it. I’m not sure how much of it is Chinese influence over Trump or him seeing it as a cheap win with young people. Regardless it’s frustrating and sickening

 

[TorontoGold]

Yeah I’m in favor of no ceasefire until every member of Hamas is killed. People may just be uncomfortable with understanding or admitting to themselves how many Gazans are in Hamas.

Ok? Kill them. The issue isn't that I think Hamas shouldn't be wiped out, I think they should. But you see religious radicals propping up their "righteous cause" as the most "just" as a means to kill the other person is insane. Look at Drayer and Irish#1 for example, they have no problem talking about superior cultures or how someone's ethnicity means they're a terrorist.

You can't have enthostates and expect to have a positive outcome. There has never been a perfectly 100% pure rebellion against an occupying force. I have no doubt that people here would argue that warsaw ghetto uprising was bad because they used molotov cocktails on their captors. Or that since the ANC was designated as a terrorist organization that Nelson Mandela and the apartheid was ok because their cause was linked to terrorism.

So yeah, you can miss me with the justification of collective punishment. Or that because China/Russia are part of the UN Human Rights Council that arrest warrants issued for Bibi for war crimes are moot, despite wide ranging acknowledgement of the legitimacy of these warrants by both conservative and liberal governments. Oh, and that calling Bibi a terrorist is stupid by the same person calling for treason charges against the opposing party leadership - that is incredibly rich.

 

[drayer54]

Ok? Kill them. The issue isn't that I think Hamas shouldn't be wiped out, I think they should. But you see religious radicals propping up their "righteous cause" as the most "just" as a means to kill the other person is insane. Look at Drayer and Irish#1 for example, they have no problem talking about superior cultures or how someone's ethnicity means they're a terrorist.

You can't have enthostates and expect to have a positive outcome. There has never been a perfectly 100% pure rebellion against an occupying force. I have no doubt that people here would argue that warsaw ghetto uprising was bad because they used molotov cocktails on their captors. Or that since the ANC was designated as a terrorist organization that Nelson Mandela and the apartheid was ok because their cause was linked to terrorism.

Toronto vibes

Young couple trying to prove human kindness killed by ISIS | The Jerusalem Post

“Evil is a make-believe concept we’ve invented to deal with the complexities of fellow humans holding values and beliefs and perspectives different than our own."

www.jpost.com

Ethnicity doesn’t imply terrorist. Culture in Gaza and some other places is inferior to others and must be handled forcefully. It’s just the way it is. The culture in Dubai, Bahrain, Qatar, and Gaza are all very different.

Dubai itself is an incredibly warm and welcoming Muslim city. Abu Dhabi almost as good as good as Dubai.

 

[TorontoGold]

Toronto vibes

Young couple trying to prove human kindness killed by ISIS | The Jerusalem Post

“Evil is a make-believe concept we’ve invented to deal with the complexities of fellow humans holding values and beliefs and perspectives different than our own."

www.jpost.com

Ethnicity doesn’t imply terrorist. Culture in Gaza and some other places is inferior to others and must be handled forcefully. It’s just the way it is. The culture in Dubai, Bahrain, Qatar, and Gaza are all very different.

Dubai itself is an incredibly warm and welcoming Muslim city. Abu Dhabi almost as good as good as Dubai.

lol Toronto vibes, yeah me advocating for civilians to not be murdered equates to hanging out with ISIS. Another insight into to you thinking Gazan's are just terrorists that need to die.

Irish#1 would disagree, once he knew someone's ethnicity he knew they were a terrorist.

Yeah authoritarian regimes are so great, having a subclass of people brought in to do work is really sweet and freedom of speech isn't really important. But, at least the cities are really nice to rich people lmao.

 

[drayer54]

lol Toronto vibes, yeah me advocating for civilians to not be murdered equates to hanging out with ISIS. Another insight into to you thinking Gazan's are just terrorists that need to die.

Irish#1 would disagree, once he knew someone's ethnicity he knew they were a terrorist.

Yeah authoritarian regimes are so great, having a subclass of people brought in to do work is really sweet and freedom of speech isn't really important. But, at least the cities are really nice to rich people lmao.

I’m sure everyone who isn’t actively in Hamas is a wonderful person just hoping to contribute to society and not kill their neighbors. Not everyone shares values.

 

[NDVirginia19]

Ok? Kill them. The issue isn't that I think Hamas shouldn't be wiped out, I think they should. But you see religious radicals propping up their "righteous cause" as the most "just" as a means to kill the other person is insane. Look at Drayer and Irish#1 for example, they have no problem talking about superior cultures or how someone's ethnicity means they're a terrorist.

You can't have enthostates and expect to have a positive outcome. There has never been a perfectly 100% pure rebellion against an occupying force. I have no doubt that people here would argue that warsaw ghetto uprising was bad because they used molotov cocktails on their captors. Or that since the ANC was designated as a terrorist organization that Nelson Mandela and the apartheid was ok because their cause was linked to terrorism.

So yeah, you can miss me with the justification of collective punishment. Or that because China/Russia are part of the UN Human Rights Council that arrest warrants issued for Bibi for war crimes are moot, despite wide ranging acknowledgement of the legitimacy of these warrants by both conservative and liberal governments. Oh, and that calling Bibi a terrorist is stupid by the same person calling for treason charges against the opposing party leadership - that is incredibly rich.

I think that it is treasonous to push executive orders and lie to the President of the United States about what it is that he is exactly signing. They were derelict in their duty to execute the constitutionally mandated authority that they had under the 25th amendment to remove him from office. They knew about it, enabled it, hid it from the opposing party leadership, and weaponized the media to cover it up. That is an incredibly dangerous national security risk that only existed because of the actions that they did. It was unpatriotic and they should be tried in court for it.

He wasn't the fucking PTA president, he was the President of the fucking United States of America. You can't just say "oh he's not up for it, we'll just ride it out," and those same fucking cretins lied to us and tried to get him fucking reelected.


And yes, there are superior cultures to others. Is our culture not superior to the culture of Nazi Germany? Of the Aztec Empire? Of the Taliban? Moral Relativism is horseshit.

And there is a fundamental difference between the actions of the ANC and the Warsaw Ghetto uprising than Hamas raping, killing, and mutilating hundreds of innocent women and children and parading their blodied bodies around the streets of their cities while the "civilians" were cheering them on. Come on now

 

[Irish#1]

Ok? Kill them. The issue isn't that I think Hamas shouldn't be wiped out, I think they should. But you see religious radicals propping up their "righteous cause" as the most "just" as a means to kill the other person is insane. Look at Drayer and Irish#1 for example, they have no problem talking about superior cultures or how someone's ethnicity means they're a terrorist.

You can't have enthostates and expect to have a positive outcome. There has never been a perfectly 100% pure rebellion against an occupying force. I have no doubt that people here would argue that warsaw ghetto uprising was bad because they used molotov cocktails on their captors. Or that since the ANC was designated as a terrorist organization that Nelson Mandela and the apartheid was ok because their cause was linked to terrorism.

So yeah, you can miss me with the justification of collective punishment. Or that because China/Russia are part of the UN Human Rights Council that arrest warrants issued for Bibi for war crimes are moot, despite wide ranging acknowledgement of the legitimacy of these warrants by both conservative and liberal governments. Oh, and that calling Bibi a terrorist is stupid by the same person calling for treason charges against the opposing party leadership - that is incredibly rich.

You’re full of it. I’ve never said one culture is superior to another and I don’t believe any are. It just happens that today the vast majority of today’s terrorists are Muslin from the ME. Don’t know why that is so hard for you to comprehend.

And for the record, as I’ve posted before, I will remind you that my staff is and has always been quite diverse in ethnicities, racial and gender makeup. Currently it’s three ladies, one lesbian, one Hispanic and one ME descent (not Muslim) out of ten. The one of ME descent is not the one of Muslim fate I mentioned before.

 

[Sea Turtle]

Hamas has missed the deadline and keeps delaying the release of the list of the 33 hostages, condition and whether they are dead or alive. This is prompting speculation that the Bibas family are indeed dead.

These deaths would obviously be problematic.

 

[NDVirginia19]

They have less than 48 hours to comply until things get very bad for them

 

[IrishLax]

Trump announced he will sign an executive order giving them a 90 day window to work out a deal and that he will push for the US government to own 50% of TikTok… which seems like it’d have major first amendment issues, but I dunno.

 

[Irish#1]

Hamas released three women hostages. Ceasefire underway.

 

[Irish#1]

Trump announced he will sign an executive order giving them a 90 day window to work out a deal and that he will push for the US government to own 50% of TikTok… which seems like it’d have major first amendment issues, but I dunno.

I don’t know if it will or won’t have amendment issues, but I like that they are pushing changes to reduce or eliminate political influence and capturing personal data. Not sure how they will accomplish that, but glad they are working on it.

 

[Sea Turtle]

Hamas released three women hostages. Ceasefire underway.

And Hamas throws a parade. They got 47,000 gazans killed.

47,000 gazans dead and they are being celebrated.

Verifying Device

 

[Irish#1]

And Hamas throws a parade. They got 47,000 gazans killed.

47,000 gazans dead and they are being celebrated.

Verifying Device

It’s a strange mentality.

 

[drayer54]

Trump announced he will sign an executive order giving them a 90 day window to work out a deal and that he will push for the US government to own 50% of TikTok… which seems like it’d have major first amendment issues, but I dunno.

Its legal per the 28th Amendment.

 

[drayer54]

It’s a strange mentality.

“Its an equal culture” -Toronto

 

[calvegas04]

Sigh.



As a country, I have no idea what we are doing when when a foreign enemy can buy political influence this easily. Applies yo both parties.

Big fail already

 

[Irish#1]

 

[calvegas04]

He said that the first go around too