2024 College Football Playoffs

[NDpendent]

then lose in a different round than the first..... ok - got ya... just want to make it in to lose; just not in the first round...

My expectations of making the playoffs are different than others here... I get it... thanks for clarifying you all's wanting to 'just make it'

No, I want them to win the national championship. But if they don't win it all, I would rather them go deep then get knocked out in the first round.

 

[SDIrishFan]

Stating the obvious…? I’d rather have Livvy Dunne. Not sure I want any part of Roseanne Barr.

Haha. Touché. That’s French for screw you, haha 😂 I kid I kid.

 

[Rockin’Irish]

No, I want them to win the national championship. But if they don't win it all, I would rather them go deep then get knocked out in the first round.

It’s always best to go deep.

 

[Fbolt]

That's exactly what she said-exactly.

 

[Irish du Nord]

Don’t necessarily disagree as I think Texas was gifted a fairly easy schedule and lost to the only decent team they have played. But if you’re going to use that argument, the Ga loss looks a bit better than the Irish loss. Now, I believe there are three teams currently ranked above the Irish that are much bigger questions- Penn St, BYU, and Indiana. That’s where I think the Irish fans should be a bit upset with - not Texas at this point.

Eh, on principal I disagree with comparing losses. A loss is a loss. If you win the game, you get the benefit of beating that team. Losing to UGA isn't an accomplishment

 

[irish4ever]

Maybe but wouldn't lose an ounce of sleep over the Irish O now...

Over each team's last 3 games played, ND is tied for 1st with O$U on Defense Points Allowed @ 10.0 per game. ND is tied for 1st with Baylor on Offense Points Scored @ 44.7 per game. Keep in mind that ND's 4th game ago (not included the above ave.) was the Stanford 49-7 beatdown. So, is it solely the competition (GT, Navy and F$U in that last 3 game ave.) OR are the Irish finally getting on track to be a complete "monster" leading up to the playoffs?

 

[irish4ever]

My preferences based on the teams who could feasibly be first round matchups:

1. Indiana (sorry after this week I think Golden would tear them a new one)
2. Alabama (copy the Jerry Kill playbook, Leonard can do what Pavia did in that game, Saban ain't walking through that door)
3. Penn State (Franklin is a big game choker but they do have a lot of talent)
4. Tennessee (Heupel is very dogmatic with his offense, which screams poor playoff performer)
5. Boise State (Obvious talent deficiency, but that man scares me)
6. Ole Miss (Really talented and Dart can play)
T7. Texas, Ohio State, and Georgia (the only teams who I think are clearly more talented than we are, would be a bummer to have to see them)

Honestly after typing it out, I like our chances against the top 6.

Regarding IU, they have played ONLY 1 team currently with less than 5 losses (Nebraska 5-4), including their weak-ass non-conf. schedule. Their remaining games are @ O$U (8-1) and home against Purdue (1-8). WTF, talking about a schedule that came out as a gift on a platter!

 

[InKellyWeTrust]

Over each team's last 3 games played, ND is tied for 1st with O$U on Defense Points Allowed @ 10.0 per game. ND is tied for 1st with Baylor on Offense Points Scored @ 44.7 per game. Keep in mind that ND's 4th game ago (not included the above ave.) was the Stanford 49-7 beatdown. So, is it solely the competition (GT, Navy and F$U in that last 3 game ave.) OR are the Irish finally getting on track to be a complete "monster" leading up to the playoffs?

Scoring margin and style points matter, especially against weak competition. ND is excelling at both. This is the way to make a case for staying ahead of the 2 loss SEC teams.

 

[stlnd01]

Regarding IU, they have played ONLY 1 team currently with less than 5 losses (Nebraska 5-4), including their weak-ass non-conf. schedule. Their remaining games are @ O$U (8-1) and home against Purdue (1-8). WTF, talking about a schedule that came out as a gift on a platter!

Yeah. Indiana's a good story but I have a hard time believing they're a Top 10-level football team.
That said, barring a massive collapse against Purdue they'll be in the playoffs. Would gladly play them in the first round for the same reason I'd gladly avoid Alabama. In the postseason, the more talented team usually wins.

 

[NDpendent]

For the conference championship games we are really pulling for no upsets. It's going to make a big difference in the seeding for us. Worst case scenario are if teams like Georgia and Penn State upset a Texas or Ohio State and then they both are seeded ahead of us.

 

[JadedDomer]

For the conference championship games we are really pulling for no upsets. It's going to make a big difference in the seeding for us. Worst case scenario are if teams like Georgia and Penn State upset a Texas or Ohio State and then they both are seeded ahead of us.

Yes, we want the higher seed in the conf games to clean house. That just moves us up and keeps others from jumping. But at this point I'd bet anything ND wins out they're hosting a playoff game. Just too much chaos yet to happen and some inevitable falls (Indiana, Tennessee imminent).

 

[IrishSpartan]

heard on Josh Pate that there is a really good reddit calculator for the tie breakers. Anyone have the link?

 

[stlnd01]

Yes, we want the higher seed in the conf games to clean house. That just moves us up and keeps others from jumping. But at this point I'd bet anything ND wins out they're hosting a playoff game. Just too much chaos yet to happen and some inevitable falls (Indiana, Tennessee imminent).

It would be really really annoying if Colorado beats an undefeated BYU in the Big 12 title game and they both wind up seeded ahead of us. For instance.

 

[SDIrishFan]

It would be really really annoying if Colorado beats an undefeated BYU in the Big 12 title game and they both wind up seeded ahead of us. For instance.

There's no way a 1-loss BYU team is ahead of us. Same with Indiana (Unless they lose a regular season game and win the Big 10 Title game)

 

[stlnd01]

There's no way a 1-loss BYU team is ahead of us. Same with Indiana (Unless they lose a regular season game and win the Big 10 Title game)

They shouldn't be, of course, but it might depend on how the CFP weighs conference title losses. They've indicated they won't punish teams too hard for losing one there. Also if SMU (who BYU beat) winds up winning the ACC or something, BYU likely has a "better win" than we do.
Cleaner if BYU just goes undefeated and gets a first round bye (before being destroyed by #5 Ohio State/Oregon).

 

[SDIrishFan]

They shouldn't be, of course, but it might depend on how the CFP weighs conference title losses. They've indicated they won't punish teams too hard for losing one there. Also if SMU (who BYU beat) winds up winning the ACC or something, BYU likely has a "better win" than we do.
Cleaner if BYU just goes undefeated and gets a first round bye (before being destroyed by #5 Ohio State/Oregon).

Yeah, flippin' Utah (and the refs) shit the bed this last weekend. That would have removed all doubt for ND hosting as far as I'm concerned.

 

[irish4ever]

For the conference championship games we are really pulling for no upsets. It's going to make a big difference in the seeding for us. Worst case scenario are if teams like Georgia and Penn State upset a Texas or Ohio State and then they both are seeded ahead of us.

I doubt that PSU makes the BIG championship game. If O$U wups IU at home, it's more than likely a rematch between Oregon and O$U for the BIG. Regardless, who wins that game, both will be in the playoffs. PSU will be in the playoffs UNLESS they lose as a BIG surprise @ Minnesota. Their other 2 games are Purdue & Maryland (at home). IU needs to hang tight with OSU on 11/23 OR they may well be on the cusp of being eliminated with 1 loss (hence due to their weak-ass schedule).

 

[Wild Bill]

Don’t necessarily disagree as I think Texas was gifted a fairly easy schedule and lost to the only decent team they have played. But if you’re going to use that argument, the Ga loss looks a bit better than the Irish loss. Now, I believe there are three teams currently ranked above the Irish that are much bigger questions- Penn St, BYU, and Indiana. That’s where I think the Irish fans should be a bit upset with - not Texas at this point.

There’s really no need to compare ND and Texas at this stage. It’ll likely sort itself out on the field - if Texas loses to A&M, they should fall below Notre Dame. IF the horns beat A&M and finish the regular season with just one loss, they deserve to be ranked above Notre Dame, even if they lose in the SECCG.

For argument’s sake, Texas and Penn State may have "better" losses, but those losses might better reflect who those teams truly are at this point in the season. If Georgia played Texas again this weekend, nobody would be surprised if Georgia won, even though Georgia hasn’t looked great lately. If Texas were to lose to Texas A&M it would only reinforce their limitations as a team. The same goes for Penn State - no one was shocked when Ohio State beat them convincingly, and most would expect a similar result if they played again

If Notre Dame played Northern Illinois again, everyone would assume a comfortable win for ND. Most would agree that Notre Dame would win that matchup 99.9% of the time, and no one on the committee genuinely believes they’d lose to NIU again.

This isn’t about giving Notre Dame a free pass on that loss - it was embarrassing, it matters, and it should absolutely be considered. But it doesn’t define them the way Penn State’s loss to Ohio State defines them. Penn State hasn’t beaten anyone with a pulse, and people know that their loss to OSU was a definitive one. Meanwhile, ND is kicking the shit out of everyone they play and has a signature win over A&M. If both teams end up with one loss, Notre Dame should be ranked ahead, though the committee seems to disagree based on initial rankings.

 

[SDIrishFan]

In a post that absolutely no one asked for, I thought I'd put together my completely biased thoughts on ND's chances against this year's playoff contending teams. (Note: This assumes both teams play "well" and nothing crazy happens.) As I've mentioned before, there really isn't anyone that I think would boat race ND off the field. I know the chances of playing some of these teams, based on seedings, is remote, but thought I'd include them all anyway.

1. Oregon - 40% Chance to Win - This game would likely only happen in the semi or final on a neutral site. Admittedly I haven't watched them much this year but they seem to be a pretty complete team.
2. Ohio State - 55% Chance to Win - OSU doesn't scare me, especially their offense. Their defense is good but on a neutral site, I like our chances.
3. Texas - 40% Chance to Win - I think overall, they are a pretty complete team, but nothing stands out as something they do incredibly well, except maybe defense. They will be battle tested. Could be a rock fight similar to Texas A&M.
4. Penn State - 85% Chance to Win - Give me this matchup all day and twice on Saturday. I think we'd win this by double digits.
5. Indiana - 70% Chance to Win - I like our chances here. A big factor would be where this game would get played. I just can't believe they are talented enough, top to bottom, to keep up.
6. Tennessee - 55% Chance to Win. Defense seems legit, offense, not so much. I like Golden against a young QB.
7. BYU - 85% Chance to Win - Sign me up. I don't see them consistently scoring or stopping us.
8. Bama - 30% Chance to Win - This is the matchup that would scare me the most. If Milroe is dealing, I don't see us having a chance.
9. Ole Miss - 40% Chance to Win - Came into the season with a lot of hype, just destroyed Georgia. I'm not sure we match up well here.
10. Georgia - 35% Chance to Win - I think their DL would give our OL fits all game and we'd struggle to do anything on offense. But I think it may be the same on the other side. Could be a 10-9 type game.
11. Miami - 70% Chance to Win - After skating by, they finally got exposed by a team we handled. I'd take this game without much concern.
12. Boise State - 65% Chance to Win - This could be an interesting matchup. Jeanty is the goods and I'm not sure how ND would do against a team that was committed to ramming it down your throat.
13. SMU - 65% Chance to Win - I don't know much about SMU, admittedly, and I'm not sure it matters. The stage may be too big at this point for SMU but who knows.

There you have it. Yes, I'm bored.

 

[Rocketman84]

In a post that absolutely no one asked for, I thought I'd put together my completely biased thoughts on ND's chances against this year's playoff contending teams. (Note: This assumes both teams play "well" and nothing crazy happens.) As I've mentioned before, there really isn't anyone that I think would boat race ND off the field. I know the chances of playing some of these teams, based on seedings, is remote, but thought I'd include them all anyway.

1. Oregon - 40% Chance to Win - This game would likely only happen in the semi or final on a neutral site. Admittedly I haven't watched them much this year but they seem to be a pretty complete team.
2. Ohio State - 55% Chance to Win - OSU doesn't scare me, especially their offense. Their defense is good but on a neutral site, I like our chances.
3. Texas - 40% Chance to Win - I think overall, they are a pretty complete team, but nothing stands out as something they do incredibly well, except maybe defense. They will be battle tested. Could be a rock fight similar to Texas A&M.
4. Penn State - 85% Chance to Win - Give me this matchup all day and twice on Saturday. I think we'd win this by double digits.
5. Indiana - 70% Chance to Win - I like our chances here. A big factor would be where this game would get played. I just can't believe they are talented enough, top to bottom, to keep up.
6. Tennessee - 55% Chance to Win. Defense seems legit, offense, not so much. I like Golden against a young QB.
7. BYU - 85% Chance to Win - Sign me up. I don't see them consistently scoring or stopping us.
8. Bama - 30% Chance to Win - This is the matchup that would scare me the most. If Milroe is dealing, I don't see us having a chance.
9. Ole Miss - 40% Chance to Win - Came into the season with a lot of hype, just destroyed Georgia. I'm not sure we match up well here.
10. Georgia - 35% Chance to Win - I think their DL would give our OL fits all game and we'd struggle to do anything on offense. But I think it may be the same on the other side. Could be a 10-9 type game.
11. Miami - 70% Chance to Win - After skating by, they finally got exposed by a team we handled. I'd take this game without much concern.
12. Boise State - 65% Chance to Win - This could be an interesting matchup. Jeanty is the goods and I'm not sure how ND would do against a team that was committed to ramming it down your throat.
13. SMU - 65% Chance to Win - I don't know much about SMU, admittedly, and I'm not sure it matters. The stage may be too big at this point for SMU but who knows.

There you have it. Yes, I'm bored.

Not bad...but I'd love our chances with one dimensional teams especially those without star power (IU, BYU, P$U to an extent), I would go....

1. Oregon~50% chance to win
2. Ohio St.~45% chance to win
3. Texas~45% chance to win
4. Penn St.~75% chance to win
5. Indiana~85% chance to win
6. Tennessee~60% chance to win
7. BYU~95% chance to win
8. Alabama~45% chance to win
9. Ole Miss~55% chance to win
10. Georgia~40% chance to win
11. Miami~70% chance to win
12. Boise St.~80% chance to win
13. SMU~85% chance to win

 

[T-Boone]

In a post that absolutely no one asked for, I thought I'd put together my completely biased thoughts on ND's chances against this year's playoff contending teams. (Note: This assumes both teams play "well" and nothing crazy happens.) As I've mentioned before, there really isn't anyone that I think would boat race ND off the field. I know the chances of playing some of these teams, based on seedings, is remote, but thought I'd include them all anyway.

1. Oregon - 40% Chance to Win - This game would likely only happen in the semi or final on a neutral site. Admittedly I haven't watched them much this year but they seem to be a pretty complete team.
2. Ohio State - 55% Chance to Win - OSU doesn't scare me, especially their offense. Their defense is good but on a neutral site, I like our chances.
3. Texas - 40% Chance to Win - I think overall, they are a pretty complete team, but nothing stands out as something they do incredibly well, except maybe defense. They will be battle tested. Could be a rock fight similar to Texas A&M.
4. Penn State - 85% Chance to Win - Give me this matchup all day and twice on Saturday. I think we'd win this by double digits.
5. Indiana - 70% Chance to Win - I like our chances here. A big factor would be where this game would get played. I just can't believe they are talented enough, top to bottom, to keep up.
6. Tennessee - 55% Chance to Win. Defense seems legit, offense, not so much. I like Golden against a young QB.
7. BYU - 85% Chance to Win - Sign me up. I don't see them consistently scoring or stopping us.
8. Bama - 30% Chance to Win - This is the matchup that would scare me the most. If Milroe is dealing, I don't see us having a chance.
9. Ole Miss - 40% Chance to Win - Came into the season with a lot of hype, just destroyed Georgia. I'm not sure we match up well here.
10. Georgia - 35% Chance to Win - I think their DL would give our OL fits all game and we'd struggle to do anything on offense. But I think it may be the same on the other side. Could be a 10-9 type game.
11. Miami - 70% Chance to Win - After skating by, they finally got exposed by a team we handled. I'd take this game without much concern.
12. Boise State - 65% Chance to Win - This could be an interesting matchup. Jeanty is the goods and I'm not sure how ND would do against a team that was committed to ramming it down your throat.
13. SMU - 65% Chance to Win - I don't know much about SMU, admittedly, and I'm not sure it matters. The stage may be too big at this point for SMU but who knows.

There you have it. Yes, I'm bored.

Too much fear of the SEC - especially Alabama. Saban isn't there anymore.

 

[stlnd01]

Too much fear of the SEC - especially Alabama. Saban isn't there anymore.

Which is why they lose to Vandy. But they won’t be overlooking Notre Dame in a playoff game.
Bama still has loads of talented players and, IMO, Milroe is one of the very best QBs in the country. Yeah I’d rather play almost anyone else.

 

[Irish#1]

Which is why they lose to Vandy. But they won’t be overlooking Notre Dame in a playoff game.
Bama still has loads of talented players and, IMO, Milroe is one of the very best QBs in the country. Yeah I’d rather play almost anyone else.

Bama would be tough, but Milroe has been inconsistent IMO.

 

[InKellyWeTrust]

If anyone thinks Bama, Georgia, or Ole Miss would be favorable matchups for ND, they haven't been paying attention. Sure, ND could matchup with any of them and win the game, but I'd guess Vegas would have ND as the underdog against any of those 3.

BYU, Indiana, Penn St or Miami otoh, we'd be favored and I'd really like those matchups.

 

[SDIrishFan]

IF we were healthy and had all our front line guys, I think we’d be favored or a coin flip in any game we played. But being down 6 or 7 starters, or whatever it is now, makes it tough.

 

[InKellyWeTrust]

Only 10 remaining 0 or 1 loss power 4 teams after week 11.

 

[pumpdog20]

Sorry, but I would not want to see Milroe against our rush defense.

 

[GATTACA!]

Just fucking around with the ESPN predictor. This was with Texas losing to TAMU last game of their season.

 

[IrishSpartan]

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Just fucking around with the ESPN predictor. This was with Texas losing to TAMU last game of their season.

I had fun with this yesterday nd won the natty 6/10 made the natty 7/10. I think this goes by fpi which loves ND. Interesting that most times we opened at home against ole miss

 

[ND87]