Presidential Election 2024

NDVirginia19

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I know you’re relatively new to the political board and don’t know my history, but I have family in the DMV who are involved in Opus Dei along with virtually every conservative Catholic politician and a few members of SCOTUS. This court will ALWAYS rule in favor of Trump. I know what the fuck I’m talking about.
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Oh wow! Sorry I didn't know you were so important!!! You know what the FUCK you're talking about. This is such a blueanon take I love it
 

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Oh wow! Sorry I didn't know you were so important!!! You know what the FUCK you're talking about. This is such a blueanon take I love it
I actually didn’t mean to come off like that. I apologize. Anyway, just more reason for you to be thrilled that Trump is in power. He can do whatever wants.
 

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There's also so many counterfactuals to your argument as well. DHS Vs. California Regents in 2020, where the court ruled 5-4 that the Trump admin's decision to rescind DACA was arbitrary and unconstitutional, Department of Commerce v. New York in 2019 where the court ruled 7-2 that the Trump admin couldn't add a citizenship question to the census, and their decision to not allow Trump to use the court to challenge the 2020 election results. If they were so in his bag and would have pushed those through. And if you question Roberts' loyalty to Trump as you say, Roberts was pushed to SCOTUS by Leonard Leo, the same scary Opus Dei man Trump put in charge of finding his SCOTUS nominees
 

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ACB is the only member of the court that is actually affiliated with Opus Dei, no?
As far as I know, she is NOT a member, but I’ll try to find out. She is a member of People of Praise. Most of my Opus Dei family members are really weird about revealing membership. Thomas, Alito, Roberts, and Kavanaugh are members.
 

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There's also so many counterfactuals to your argument as well. DHS Vs. California Regents in 2020, where the court ruled 5-4 that the Trump admin's decision to rescind DACA was arbitrary and unconstitutional, Department of Commerce v. New York in 2019 where the court ruled 7-2 that the Trump admin couldn't add a citizenship question to the census, and their decision to not allow Trump to use the court to challenge the 2020 election results. If they were so in his bag and would have pushed those through. And if you question Roberts' loyalty to Trump as you say, Roberts was pushed to SCOTUS by Leonard Leo, the same scary Opus Dei man Trump put in charge of finding his SCOTUS nominees
The Supreme Court’s ambiguous ruling on presidential immunity is my main argument regarding Trump’s ability to do things without legal interference. You should be happy; don’t you trust Trump to do the right thing?
 

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As far as I know, she is NOT a member, but I’ll try to find out. She is a member of People of Praise. Most of my Opus Dei family members are really weird about revealing membership. Thomas, Alito, Roberts, and Kavanaugh are members.
Have you read the new book OPUS by Gareth Gore that was published recently? I heard about it recently.
 

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Have you read the new book OPUS Gareth Gore that was published recently? Heard about it recently.
No, it makes me sick that my sister and her family are involved in it. I try to avoid it, but now I have to find out about it. Thanks a lot!
 

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No, it makes me sick that my sister and her family are involved in it. I try to avoid it, but now I have to find out about it. Thanks a lot!
Based on reviews and excerpts I’ve read the people leading that organization are scumbag lunatics.
 

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The Supreme Court’s ambiguous ruling on presidential immunity is my main argument regarding Trump’s ability to do things without legal interference. You should be happy; don’t you trust Trump to do the right thing?
My recollection was that the Supreme Court tried to split the baby on the immunity ruling. There were legitimate arguments on each side and they decided to go down the middle.
 
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Then you should care that all the anti trans healthcare laws passed since 2018 had led to a drastic increase in suicide attempts amongst children struggling with that
 

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Based on reviews and excerpts I’ve read the people leading that organization are scumbag lunatics.
One infamous member, convicted traitor Robert Hanssen, was friends with my sister’s in-laws. One of his sons is my brother-in-law’s best friend and my sister actually went on a date with him before meeting her husband. Opus Dei is so disgustingly incestuous.
 

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Here's what I predict we will actually see. This won't be perfectly accurate obviously, but pretty close:

- Reduction in corporate taxes. Believe they're are 21% now, Kamala wanted 28%, Trump will lower to around 15%. Companies having money is good, more growth, more jobs, higher 401ks for all.
- Immediate removal of illegal/non-citizens who commit crime. He can't remove 10-20M day 1, but will start with the egregious.
- Obviously, immediately stop s$x changes on minors. No more men in women's sports.
- Allow oil drilling permits, removing all bans or recently implemented regulations
- Lowered federal income taxes. I would not be surprised at all if he moved it to ~15% for the middle class who currently pays ~25%.
- Election integrity. No more ballot dump boxes, perhaps no machines, limited voting window (no more voting month).
- Secure border. This may involve finishing funding to close the wall if he can get it, but if not, more manual efforts and policies.

A lot of other things will be done but I think these are the big ones. If this is facism, sign me up.
He won this time, so I doubt this is high on his priority list.
 

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Ill bet this is very much on his list.
cool. No one has yet to prove widespread voter fraud is actually happening.

40,000 gun related deaths a year, though. Fuck that. Let's count paper ballots in all 50 states. I'm psyched.
 

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Lowering corporate taxes will only work if he actually enforces residency laws and tax treaties. If not, then it's hilariously bad tax policy.
Then in 2028, The Obama Trump Biden Trump voters in the Rust Belt 3 Big Ten states will flip flop back to the Democratic nominee again when the recession hits.
 

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Then in 2028, The Obama Trump Biden Trump voters in the Rust Belt 3 Big Ten states will flip flop back to the Democratic nominee again when the recession hits.
I can't wait to see them trot out Mitt Romney and be like "Woah! Remember how much you guys loved a career politician, and he'll help heal the nation! What? You guys don't want interventionist foreign policy? Damn, well the best we can do is no tax on tips!"

They saw the campaign's run by McCain and Romney and thought you know what will juice the base? *that* Never mind you're running against the guy who won because he wasn't a career politician in 2016 and people wanted a change. Who would have guessed they didn't want a war criminals daughter, rapist Epstein buddy who's wife lost, and for her to adopt some of Trump's policies and building a fucking wall. They'll probably take from it that she was way too extreme because she voted on the Left of a Mitch McConnell senate lmao.
 

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I actually didn’t mean to come off like that. I apologize. Anyway, just more reason for you to be thrilled that Trump is in power. He can do whatever wants.
I will be shocked if he goes all dictatorship like some of you think he will.
 

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Here's what I predict we will actually see. This won't be perfectly accurate obviously, but pretty close:

- Reduction in corporate taxes. Believe they're are 21% now, Kamala wanted 28%, Trump will lower to around 15%. Companies having money is good, more growth, more jobs, higher 401ks for all.
- Immediate removal of illegal/non-citizens who commit crime. He can't remove 10-20M day 1, but will start with the egregious.
- Obviously, immediately stop s$x changes on minors. No more men in women's sports.
- Allow oil drilling permits, removing all bans or recently implemented regulations
- Lowered federal income taxes. I would not be surprised at all if he moved it to ~15% for the middle class who currently pays ~25%.
- Election integrity. No more ballot dump boxes, perhaps no machines, limited voting window (no more voting month).
- Secure border. This may involve finishing funding to close the wall if he can get it, but if not, more manual efforts and policies.

A lot of other things will be done but I think these are the big ones. If this is facism, sign me up.
Good list. For those that are worried there won't be anyone to pick your lettuce, there is no way Trump will do a mass deportation on day one. Maybe on the criminals as Jaded mentioned, but isn't that a good thing?
 

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Good list. For those that are worried there won't be anyone to pick your lettuce, there is no way Trump will do a mass deportation on day one. Maybe on the criminals as Jaded mentioned, but isn't that a good thing?
Yes, it’s a good thing to deport criminals. However, deporting all 14 million or whatever will cause so many problems with the economy, deficit, debt, etc. There is no plan on how to do it either.
 

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Yes, it’s a good thing to deport criminals. However, deporting all 14 million or whatever will cause so many problems with the economy, deficit, debt, etc. There is no plan on how to do it either.
Would take a lot of funds and take a lot of effort to locate all these individuals. Will be a bit surprised if he can get even half of that number deported in 4 years.
 

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Yes, it’s a good thing to deport criminals. However, deporting all 14 million or whatever will cause so many problems with the economy, deficit, debt, etc. There is no plan on how to do it either.
Trillions of dollars. Trillions.

If any of them are egg pickers, the price of eggs is going back up, and there goes that. Independent White dudes in Ann Arbor, Reading PA and Dane County WI all vote Democrat again in the damned 2026 midterms.

Lather, rinse, repeat.
 

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Trillions of dollars. Trillions.

If any of them are egg pickers, the price of eggs is going back up, and there goes that. Independent White dudes in Ann Arbor, Reading PA and Dane County WI all vote Democrat again in the damned 2026 midterms.

Lather, rinse, repeat.

What price do you put on national security? Have you factored in how much they'll cost social programs (Medicaid, SS, Medicare, Housing)? Do you care about Americans who need those programs that will be replaced in lieu of non-citizens? These programs aren't running fat and happy..
 

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What price do you put on national security? Have you factored in how much they'll cost social programs (Medicaid, SS, Medicare, Housing)? Do you care about Americans who need those programs that will be replaced in lieu of non-citizens? These programs aren't running fat and happy..
Last year it was $820B, 13% of the budget.

Non Citizens face eligibility restrictions for Medicaid, CHIP, the ACA and Medicare. Those who are eligible for coverage also face a range of enrollment barriers including fear, confusion about rules, language barriers and literacy if they actually are eligible for them which few typically are anyway.

Obviously I care about citizens who need these programs, which is why I hope they remain and don't get eliminated.
 

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They’ve been saying Trump will get us nuked by NK called trump and bush Jr nazi’s for many, many years. But when u cry wolf….They have nothing else but delusional fear to keep the dem cattle in the pasture. After awhile u just realize it’s the media/Dems that are full of shit. Last four years we’ve seen political persecution left and right by Dems, we better correct the FBI, etc. while we can.
 
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