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Voting records show that he didn't even vote in the 2016 election.

It does show that he did vote in the 2024 Democratic Primary though.

In addition to giving money to ActBlue, he also donated to Beto O'Rourke, Tom Steyer, Andrew Yang and Tulsi Gabbard during the 2020 Democratic Presidential Primaries
 

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I will not be voting for Trump or Harris. I can't support either of them. As I've already said, the guy may have voted for Trump previously, but his more recent donations says he's changed the party he's going to support. Not sure why that's hard to comprehend for some.

I honestly don't know why you don't support Trump, aside from him as a person I can't remember a policy disagreement you've had with him. Maybe I'm missing something.

It was a $32 donation, as Cal had mentioned, the guy might have been so deranged he thought it was some back the blue organization.
 

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I honestly don't know why you don't support Trump, aside from him as a person I can't remember a policy disagreement you've had with him. Maybe I'm missing something.

It was a $32 donation, as Cal had mentioned, the guy might have been so deranged he thought it was some back the blue organization.
Now explain the Beto, Steyer, Yang and Gabbard donations during 2020. This is borderline pathetic.
 

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Now explain the Beto, Steyer, Yang and Gabbard donations during 2020. This is borderline pathetic.
He said he voted for Trump? As you can see there are a number of people who support Gabbard who are very clearly Republicans.

If anything him donating to people like Yang/Gabbard show that he isn't some sort of Leftist.
 

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He said he voted for Trump? As you can see there are a number of people who support Gabbard who are very clearly Republicans.

If anything him donating to people like Yang/Gabbard show that he isn't some sort of Leftist.
Gee, I've never heard of anyone lying or exaggerating the truth on social media to try to make a point. Voting records show he didn't vote in 2016 when he "claims" to have voted for Trump.

Gabbard's "Republican support" didn't happen while she was running for President in 2020.

I'm not claiming he's a leftist. I'm not even trying to blame the Democrat party. I've simply been countering the bullshit posts on here that tried to paint him as a MAGA Republican blah blah blah.

The guy is literally insane and his political party is basically useless.
 

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Gee, I've never heard of anyone lying or exaggerating the truth on social media to try to make a point. Voting records show he didn't vote in 2016 when he "claims" to have voted for Trump.

Gabbard's "Republican support" didn't happen while she was running for President in 2020.

I'm not claiming he's a leftist. I'm not even trying to blame the Democrat party. I've simply been countering the bullshit posts on here that tried to paint him as a MAGA Republican blah blah blah.

The guy is literally insane and his political party is basically useless.
Ok? Then respond to them? I've never said he's a MAGA republican, just that he voted for Trump and that it doesn't make him some Leftist. You're free to respond to them.

Yes that is my entire point. He is a psycho with an AK. Take up your ire with those talking about political leanings - Cack/Lax/Uluk all have speculated on that.
 

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Jesus, what is it like to live inside your head? You and your ilk would be making all sorts of comments about "SEE, THESE EVIL LIBS ARE TRYING TO SHOOT US, WHILE TAKING URRR GUNNSSSS!" if he supported Harris. But, oh, he's a Trump voter so "it really doesn't matter who they support." Fucking joke.
So now that we know he never voted for Trump and supported the Dem's financially and voted in the Democratic primary, are we back to saying that it should matter? Fucking Joke is right.

Irish#1 was right all along.
 
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We should all be condemning this, regardless of our political beliefs, who we are voting or issues on different policies. This type of thing should not be tolerated at all. Arguing about the dudes political beliefs and using that to further divide us, is how us as citizens lose. Any type of assassination attempt, physical violence or any other attack on our political leaders should be condemned from everyone regardless of beliefs. The people that attempt these things are clearly messed up in the head and need all sorts of professional help
 

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I’ll gladly stand corrected if it turns out that way. No problem. If he is a convicted felon can he even vote? In any even he said his choice was Trump and also wanted Vivek and Haley to join up together as a ticket later. No social media posts about any Dems that I have seen. Whatever.

I am very interested in how he knew where Trump was going to be.
 

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I honestly don't know why you don't support Trump, aside from him as a person I can't remember a policy disagreement you've had with him. Maybe I'm missing something.

It was a $32 donation, as Cal had mentioned, the guy might have been so deranged he thought it was some back the blue organization.
I have agreed with most of his policies, but I would have to go digging through posts to see what I didn't favor and I'm not interested in spending time doing that.

The amount of money is irrelevant, it was his actions that we should look at. If he had shot a .22 caliber, would that lessen the action?
 

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I have agreed with most of his policies, but I would have to go digging through posts to see what I didn't favor and I'm not interested in spending time doing that.

The amount of money is irrelevant, it was his actions that we should look at. If he had shot a .22 caliber, would that lessen the action?

I'll make it easy - for the below do you generally agree him on the below? Just a yes or a no. Just want to see if there is a specific area that you generally disagree with him on. Because it just seems to me that you disagree with his personal conduct.

Abortion
Healthcare
Infrastructure
Defense
Deficit
Foreign policy
Immigration
Supreme Court
Social issues
Environment

Yes it would lessen the action. If someone tries to rob a bank and has an M4 vs a glock I think we'd all agree it changes the situation.
 

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I’ll gladly stand corrected if it turns out that way. No problem. If he is a convicted felon can he even vote? In any even he said his choice was Trump and also wanted Vivek and Haley to join up together as a ticket later. No social media posts about any Dems that I have seen. Whatever.

I am very interested in how he knew where Trump was going to be.
What felony did he have?

Dude has only donated to dems. Dude posted stuff in support of Joe/Kamala. Dude is a Ukraine zealot. I think anyone making a serious argument that he's a republican is just coping. Dude was dying his hair blue and yellow for Ukraine? I'm sorry, that's not something one associates with middle aged Republicans, regardless of cause. I think I read that Ukraine rebuffed his efforts and basically told him to go away.

All things currently known, it seems like he's a really weird guy with mental issues. Guessing that's 99% of would-be presidential assassins at this point. Maybe this was his way of trying to help Ukraine or something. Maybe he's just nuts. But he's been interviewed by major media outlets on the Ukraine stuff.

I too am curious on if he knew Donald was gonna golf or it was just an educated guess (what else would Donald be doing on a Sunday?).

End of the day, this needs to stop. Idk how to go about doing that but if he had succeeded the unrest in this country would have been pretty bad, and may have spiraled out of control. People will die otherwise and that's something worth avoiding if possible.
 

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I'll make it easy - for the below do you generally agree him on the below? Just a yes or a no. Just want to see if there is a specific area that you generally disagree with him on. Because it just seems to me that you disagree with his personal conduct.

Abortion
Healthcare
Infrastructure
Defense
Deficit
Foreign policy
Immigration
Supreme Court
Social issues
Environment

Yes it would lessen the action. If someone tries to rob a bank and has an M4 vs a glock I think we'd all agree it changes the situation.
I am not sure how a bank robbery is changed if someone has an M4 (all but illegal to own in the US) vs. a block.

Either way, the dude has a gun and can use it on the folks staffing the bank. He's going to get the money in the duffle bag either way.
 

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I am not sure how a bank robbery is changed if someone has an M4 (all but illegal to own in the US) vs. a block.

Either way, the dude has a gun and can use it on the folks staffing the bank. He's going to get the money in the duffle bag either way.
You don't think people would respond differently to an M4 vs a glock? I fail to see any world in which someone reacts the same under each.
 

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I'll make it easy - for the below do you generally agree him on the below? Just a yes or a no. Just want to see if there is a specific area that you generally disagree with him on. Because it just seems to me that you disagree with his personal conduct.
It is primarily his personal conduct, but I'll play. Like you, I'm not going to simply answer yes or no. ;)
Abortion - Yes & No. I don't have a problem with the state having say. I'm okay with abortion to a certain stage regardless if it was incest, rape, promiscuity. After that point it's a no.
Healthcare - Yes & No. I'm for repealing Obamacare and getting medical costs reduced back where they were prior to Obamacare. Once a person goes on SS and is a certain age (70?) healthcare should be provided at not cost to the person.
Infrastructure - Yes for the most part
Defense - Yes & No. I'm for maintaining a strong military, but think we need to do a better job of letting contractors gouge us.
Deficit - Yes & No We need to make it easier for US companies to do business in the US. Foreign companies should be restricted in how much cheap product they can dump into the country.
Foreign policy - Pretty much
Immigration - Yes Allow everyone to come in as long as they go through the proper channels.
Supreme Court - Yes We need a conservative court. Our country has gone from united to every man for himself
Social issues - Not sure. What are we talking about? Social Security I'm for letting each persons contributions go into their own account and providing a minimum for those less fortunate. Student loans? Make a smart decision and pay your loans. Drugs? We need to crack down on drugs getting into the country
Environment - Yes & No. I am all for being prudent about the environment, but I also think Mother Nature is pretty resilient and we don't have to go overboard. We should invest heavily in nuclear power instead of being afraid of it because of a previous mishap. Our technology is much improved since then.

Yes it would lessen the action. If someone tries to rob a bank and has an M4 vs a glock I think we'd all agree it changes the situation.
No, shooting at the former President with a .22 doesn't lessen what he did.
 

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You don't think people would respond differently to an M4 vs a glock? I fail to see any world in which someone reacts the same under each.
If someone is pointing a gun at me, i don't think my reaction is changing much based on the gun in a bank setting. My hands are going up and I'm gonna comply with his demands.

I think anyone who thinks they would respond differently isn't being honest with themselves.
 

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It is primarily his personal conduct, but I'll play. Like you, I'm not going to simply answer yes or no. ;)

No, shooting at the former President with a .22 doesn't lessen what he did.

Hey! I only said yes or no to give you the out if you didn't want to expand. Thank you for providing your responses.

I had thought he didn't shoot the gun and was only in the area. My point about the difference in gun is how law enforcement would change their response given the weapon.

If someone is pointing a gun at me, i don't think my reaction is changing much based on the gun in a bank setting. My hands are going up and I'm gonna comply with his demands.

I think anyone who thinks they would respond differently isn't being honest with themselves.

I should have clarified, my point is that law enforcement responds different to a guy with an M4 vs a glock
 

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Hey! I only said yes or no to give you the out if you didn't want to expand. Thank you for providing your responses.

I had thought he didn't shoot the gun and was only in the area. My point about the difference in gun is how law enforcement would change their response given the weapon.



I should have clarified, my point is that law enforcement responds different to a guy with an M4 vs a glock
This is fair. There was a robbery in the 90's I think...Los Angeles maybe? Dudes had body armor and AK's and the cops had a very hard time with them lol.

Dudes armor was just eating the cops bullets and was throwing a lot of shit back at them
 

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Evidently Routh set up shop in his "snipers nest" during the middle of the night and waited. Supposedly the cell phone pings confirmed that he was in that spot waiting for 12 hours.
 

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This is fair. There was a robbery in the 90's I think...Los Angeles maybe? Dudes had body armor and AK's and the cops had a very hard time with them lol.

Dudes armor was just eating the cops bullets and was throwing a lot of shit back at them
I remember watching that in real time. My friends and family in LA were tripping out.
 

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So... this nutjob flies to Florida, buys his gun from wherever, then camps out for hours... doesn't take any shots... wasn't in line of sight... but we're characterizing this as an "assassination attempt." Allegedly, of course.

The same day (day after?) Couch-Fucking Vance admits in an interview that they will make up stories. This sounds like the false-flaggiest operation ever. Like, I would be zero-level surprised if it turns out the incompetent 4CHAN/MAGA machine (led by that gigantic-headed Loomer!) set up a patsy just to make Trump appear to be the victim again. I guess his miraculously healed ear has run out of life.

Like John Oliver said, this is Stupid Watergate.
 

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So... this nutjob flies to Florida, buys his gun from wherever, then camps out for hours... doesn't take any shots... wasn't in line of sight... but we're characterizing this as an "assassination attempt." Allegedly, of course.

The same day (day after?) Couch-Fucking Vance admits in an interview that they will make up stories. This sounds like the false-flaggiest operation ever. Like, I would be zero-level surprised if it turns out the incompetent 4CHAN/MAGA machine (led by that gigantic-headed Loomer!) set up a patsy just to make Trump appear to be the victim again. I guess his miraculously healed ear has run out of life.

Like John Oliver said, this is Stupid Watergate.
He didn't take any shots because he was waiting for DJT to go to the next hole or two. Yes...that's an assassination attempt. Idk what else you call a dude with a rifle waiting for a politician on a golf course.

John Oliver might be the dumbest person in the United States. Dude is legit retarded.
 

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We should all be condemning this, regardless of our political beliefs, who we are voting or issues on different policies. This type of thing should not be tolerated at all. Arguing about the dudes political beliefs and using that to further divide us, is how us as citizens lose. Any type of assassination attempt, physical violence or any other attack on our political leaders should be condemned from everyone regardless of beliefs. The people that attempt these things are clearly messed up in the head and need all sorts of professional help
Unfortunately, when one side tells people that we're going to have to get over school shootings, actively makes it easier for nutjobs to get guns, and refuses to expand Medicaid (thereby making it more difficult for those with MH issues to seek care), the improvement effort seems one sided.
 

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He didn't take any shots because he was waiting for DJT to go to the next hole or two. Yes...that's an assassination attempt. Idk what else you call a dude with a rifle waiting for a politician on a golf course.
A guy who's really peeved at the pace of play.
 
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