'25 MS QB Deuce Knight Auburn Verbal Ole Miss ???

Quarterback
Lucedale, MS
George County

Measurements
Ht: 6'4"
Wt: 185

Ratings
247: .................. #8 QB, #66 OA, 93 Rating
247 Comp: ..... #8 QB, #51 OA, .9729
Rivals: ............... #1 QB-D, #52 OA, 5.9
ESPN: ................ #2 QB-D, #133 OA, 82
On3: ................. #6 QB, #54 OA, 94


Offers
Notre Dame ......... Offered 3-17-23 ....... Committed 9-18-23
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Deuce Knight on Hudl

Watch Deuce Knight's videos and highlights on Hudl. More info: George County High School - Boys' Varsity Basketball / PG / Class of 2025 / Lucedale, MS

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[PutuporShutup]

Is it or is it not about winning games then? That was your original point that our “average/poor seasons” is hurting us?

We’ve won 10 games every single year since 2017 except 2022 that was Freeman’s first year ever as a head coach? There's nothing “average”about accomplishing that.

I will bet almost anything this is more to do with CJ Carr in front of him and no clear path to playing. Along with him being from the south and having immense pressure to stay down south from those in his life than anything else.

If he cared about mediocre seasons, which ND is not having, then he sure as hell isn’t going to Auburn.

To close, if his parents actually think Hugh Freeze is going to develop their son into a better QB and man than Mike Denbrock would, then good luck to them and Deuce.

Yes because winning at ND to land big recruits is more important than sec where you don’t have to school

 

[Irish#1]

😂 I’m not too sure why you’re taking a shot at the university. I believe Auburn has a better winning percentage than we do in the past 45 or so years. We’re tied with NCs, too. And we don’t have to compete with Alabama in our own state.

Freeze? Yeah, he’s a sleaze, though.

If we're going back that far, let's go back to Ara or Frank. Now who's got the most NC's?

 

[notredomer23]

If we're going back that far, let's go back to Ara or Frank. Now who's got the most NC's?

It’s not accurate even in the last 45 years anyway. ND’s won about a dozen more games since 1980 despite less played.

ND has had some worse stretches, but they’ve also had a lot better and longer stretches of success in that time period

 

[Hautian Domer]

It’s not accurate even in the last 45 years anyway. ND’s won about a dozen more games since 1980 despite less played.

ND has had some worse stretches, but they’ve also had a lot better and longer stretches of success in that time period

It’s not? I’d be curious to see the stat — I bet it’s fairly comparable.

They’ve had really good teams throughout (1983 11-1; 1993 11-0; 1994 9-1-1; 2004 13-0; 2010 14-0; 2013 12-2).

Point being, they’re a wild card and inconsistent, but when they are good, they are extremely good. It’s not like they’re Purdue or Illinois.

 

[Terry Jillery]

Rees pulled some magic with Kenny Minchey. There’s no guarantee we will have the same luck this time around.

While it’s good to land 5 star QB’s, history has shown that the best QB prospects are typically 3-4 star guys.

At one time the only starting former 5 star QB in the NFL was Matthew Stafford. That’s changed a little, but the point remains, find the guy and develop a first round talent.

Find your Josh Allen, Drake May, Pat Mahomes, Prescott, etc and develop him. While I wish him well, history shows that Deuce is more than likely not going to pan out.

 

[Hautian Domer]

Rees pulled some magic with Kenny Minchey. There’s no guarantee we will have the same luck this time around.

While it’s good to land 5 star QB’s, history has shown that the best QB prospects are typically 3-4 star guys.

At one time the only starting former 5 star player in the NFL was Matthew Stanford. That’s changed a little, but the point remains, find the guy and develop a first round talent.

Kenny went to a Catholic school in the Nashville area, right? Goes back to my point of focusing your attention on major metropolitan areas in the South and/or Catholic schools as opposed to small, rural communities in the heart of the Deep South.

Imagine going from a small, poor, rural area that’s predominately Protestant and Mississippi public schools to being plopped into and entrenched with the Notre Dame campus and student population (largely white, affluent, Catholic, private/boarding school students).

The cultural disconnect is too much for many to overcome. Truthfully, I get it. I experienced it and I’m just a hick from Terre Haute.

 

[Terry Jillery]

Kenny went to a Catholic school in the Nashville area, right? Goes back to my point of focusing your attention on major metropolitan areas in the South and/or Catholic schools as opposed to small, rural communities in the heart of the Deep South.

Imagine going from a small, poor, rural area that’s predominately Protestant and Mississippi public schools to being plopped into and entrenched with the Notre Dame campus and student population (largely white, affluent, Catholic, private/boarding school students).

The cultural disconnect is too much for many to overcome. Truthfully, I get it. I experienced it and I’m just a hick from Terre Haute.

I’d love to know the story on Zollers. He had a Duke offer. He went to a top 30 high school in PA. He chose Missouri over Georgia and Penn State.

 

[irishff1014]

The ND beat has been adamant that NIL "wont lose due to NIL"... yet ND keeps losing due to NIL???

What am I missing?

You can’t convince me that a teenager that pick LSU over ND ever cared about the school part. They aren’t in the same ball park. The sec is never about student anything.

 

[IRISHDODGER]

The ND beat has been adamant that NIL "wont lose due to NIL"... yet ND keeps losing due to NIL???

What am I missing?

i think you have to consider the fact that Deuce knows he’s not going to play his first one or even two seasons w/ Carr ahead of him. Nowadays the elite prospects want early playing time so they can hasten their route to the NFL.

 

[Hautian Domer]

You can’t convince me that a teenager that pick LSU over ND ever cared about the school part. They aren’t in the same ball park. The sec is never about student anything.

I don’t buy this. School majors matter. Missouri has a great journalism school. If a student athlete (who wanted to major in that) picked Mizzou over ND, it would make sense.

Likewise, if a student athlete wanted to major in petroleum engineering and picked A&M, LSU, or Texas over ND, again, it makes sense.

That said, a vast number of elite athletes, however, pick general studies, liberal arts, or some other major to “focus” on athletics.

 

[IRISHDODGER]

You can’t convince me that a teenager that pick LSU over ND ever cared about the school part. They aren’t in the same ball park. The sec is never about student anything.

That teenager (assuming you’re talking about Meadows) was reported to be high on ND. Members of his family wanted something else. That was speculated by Brian Smith, recruiting analyst for Locked On

 

[Katzenboyer]

The ND beat has been adamant that NIL "wont lose due to NIL"... yet ND keeps losing due to NIL???

What am I missing?

This loss isn't about NIL. Full stop.

 

[tko]

So is today the big day? Does Auburn have an event?

 

[irishu]

Yeah why has everyone been flagging today for an announcement?

 

[NDPhilly]

The "ND education" selling point just doesn’t hold much weight in the South, let alone Lucedale MS where 15% of adults have a Bachelors degree. ND and Auburn are both "nationally ranked" big time 4 year colleges, and Deuce will be doing significantly better than his peers with either education.

Also, these schools know the right stats to show to make themselves look great. They can say "XXXX magazine listed us as an elite university, just like ND!" and "the CEO of Apple, Tim Cook is an alum!". The vast majority of parents arent going to be able to decipher the bullshit.

 

[NDFAN2008]

I'd really like to know what Auburn offered that Ole Miss or Bama couldn't? Rumors they offered the dad a 6 figure job. I thought Deuce was 100 locked in because he was up here 24/7 visiting and recruiting for us. I'm just wondering did the lack of WR recruiting turn him off?

 

[yankeehater]

In the era of the transfer portal, does this really matter. ND's current and last year's starter were out of the portal as are most team's QBs. Nothing to get worked up about.

 

[GoldenTate(r)Tots]

In the era of the transfer portal, does this really matter. ND's current and last year's starter were out of the portal as are most team's QBs. Nothing to get worked up about.

After a small spat last week with a mike, I have to admit that he's right though here: It does matter. Yes we can reload to an extent on transfer players but I feel those are usually depth bandages for vulnerable positions. Even with RL, while he's talented and it's great he's here, one year in a new system, at a new school, with new players, much like Hartman, can we really expect a Heisman campaign type season? Probably not. Development matters and that takes time I feel. So winning helps attract the attention of recruits, but we have to right the ship here with the optics for the HS recruits. Something got DK off his commitment (which may have not be solid to start with for whatever reasons we want to give) and we have to do something to get recruits to want to be here at ND. But, again, I agree with a mike here that for some of these regional recruits (and maybe all of them), a verbal means nothing anymore. Almost have to recruit like everyone will be flipping so we don't look like fools scrambling to find a replacement.

 

[Irish5Saint]

Singer is saying that he doesn’t think a flip happens today, but later this month

 

[irishu]

Singer is saying that he doesn’t think a flip happens today, but later this month

“First check bounced. Auburn spending next 4 weeks pleading with donors.”

 

[ndfanatic78]

After a small spat last week with a mike, I have to admit that he's right though here: It does matter. Yes we can reload to an extent on transfer players but I feel those are usually depth bandages for vulnerable positions. Even with RL, while he's talented and it's great he's here, one year in a new system, at a new school, with new players, much like Hartman, can we really expect a Heisman campaign type season? Probably not. Development matters and that takes time I feel. So winning helps attract the attention of recruits, but we have to right the ship here with the optics for the HS recruits. Something got DK off his commitment (which may have not be solid to start with for whatever reasons we want to give) and we have to do something to get recruits to want to be here at ND. But, again, I agree with a mike here that for some of these regional recruits (and maybe all of them), a verbal means nothing anymore. Almost have to recruit like everyone will be flipping so we don't look like fools scrambling to find a replacement.

The fact of the matter is we don’t know. Could Riley Leonard have a Heisman campaign year yes. Will he we will see. If he doesn’t is that because he has only been here 1 year or does he just not have that type of talent. I would argue Hartman never had the talent and even if was back again this year his deficiencies would still hold him back. The lack of talented WR’s also held Hartman back last year. There is nothing a 2 year transfer could do about that. There are so many ifs and could be a. Great for discussion but again nothing to get worked up about or have a definitive opinion on. I am HOPING Leonard is going to prove that 1 year transfer QBs can excel and make a deep run in the playoffs. Especially when you brining in the WR talent to go with the transfer QB.

 

[ndfanatic78]

After a small spat last week with a mike, I have to admit that he's right though here: It does matter. Yes we can reload to an extent on transfer players but I feel those are usually depth bandages for vulnerable positions. Even with RL, while he's talented and it's great he's here, one year in a new system, at a new school, with new players, much like Hartman, can we really expect a Heisman campaign type season? Probably not. Development matters and that takes time I feel. So winning helps attract the attention of recruits, but we have to right the ship here with the optics for the HS recruits. Something got DK off his commitment (which may have not be solid to start with for whatever reasons we want to give) and we have to do something to get recruits to want to be here at ND. But, again, I agree with a mike here that for some of these regional recruits (and maybe all of them), a verbal means nothing anymore. Almost have to recruit like everyone will be flipping so we don't look like fools scrambling to find a replacement.

To your last point what was ND to do not take Deuce’s commitment? Because the second you do the other QBs you are recruiting will look elsewhere as what happened. Now you do want your coaching staff to continue to recruit him as if he is uncommitted, which they were, and hopefully they were keeping in contact with other recruits in case Deuce bails, don’t know and haven’t heard if they were.

 

[GoldenTate(r)Tots]

The fact of the matter is we don’t know. Could Riley Leonard have a Heisman campaign year yes. Will he we will see. If he doesn’t is that because he has only been here 1 year or does he just not have that type of talent. I would argue Hartman never had the talent and even if was back again this year his deficiencies would still hold him back. The lack of talented WR’s also held Hartman back last year. There is nothing a 2 year transfer could do about that. There are so many ifs and could be a. Great for discussion but again nothing to get worked up about or have a definitive opinion on. I am HOPING Leonard is going to prove that 1 year transfer QBs can excel and make a deep run in the playoffs. Especially when you brining in the WR talent to go with the transfer QB.

Oh I 100% agree it's nothing to get worked up over and you're right, there are a lot of unknowns/ifs that surround it. I suppose I was more talking about the probability being less likely that RL has a Heisman year (but not so much that it's impossible). Also agree that the talent and injury bug to players around Sam last year definitely hurt his ability to do much. For me, just my thoughts, while the transfer portal is great ND needs to focus on development from high school and/or permit undergrad transfers (and permit them with an easier path) so we can develop those players who can be successful with someone like RL as a transfer QB. And maybe we'll be there this year. But you're also right, it's a good conversation with a lot of supposition.

 

[Terry Jillery]

Where’s this 25 class likely to finish in comparison to most BK classes?

 

[benneboy]

Singer is saying that he doesn’t think a flip happens today, but later this month

What benefit is that to anyone? No chance this extends to the end of the month.

 

[Irish#1]

Singer is saying that he doesn’t think a flip happens today, but later this month

Great more time to find some new recipes. The wife made a casserole last night and used three different peppers out of our garden (Sweet Banana, Hungarian Hot Wax and another hot pepper) along with fresh tomatoes. I'm having leftovers tonight.

 

[notredomer23]

I’ve always had an inkling that if he didn’t end up at ND, he ended up at Mississippi State. I think that bodes much more likely if he decommits for Auburn

 

[NDpendent]

We will be playing for a national championship in the next 4 years, Auburn won't be

 

[IrishLax]

Just my opinion but I think Freeman is showing a bit of naivete with how he is recruiting some of these QBs. A guy like CJ Carr who doesn't need money / doesn't have parents looking for something is a completely different recruitment from a guy like Dante Moore who has parents inserting themselves heavily in the process looking for compensation.

Going into the deep south you have to know that virtually every top player from that region -- even going back pre-NIL -- has taken compensation. That's the singular driving factor in many recruitments, and it's how Hugh Freeze signed good classes at Ole Miss. If you're not positioned to win an NIL battle or hook a dad up with a job, why are you recruiting in Mississippi? And similarly, what can ND do to be more competitive in that space for top recruits? Similar crap happened with Peyton Bowen and Oregon. Keon Keeley. etc

 

[Kingbish01]

Just my opinion but I think Freeman is showing a bit of naivete with how he is recruiting some of these QBs. A guy like CJ Carr who doesn't need money / doesn't have parents looking for something is a completely different recruitment from a guy like Dante Moore who has parents inserting themselves heavily in the process looking for compensation.

Going into the deep south you have to know that virtually every top player from that region -- even going back pre-NIL -- has taken compensation. That's the singular driving factor in many recruitments, and it's how Hugh Freeze signed good classes at Ole Miss. If you're not positioned to win an NIL battle or hook a dad up with a job, why are you recruiting in Mississippi? And similarly, what can ND do to be more competitive in that space for top recruits? Similar crap happened with Peyton Bowen and Oregon. Keon Keeley. etc

IMO....ND is doing everything right in terms of NIL and playing the game. The one thing that ND will never be able to do to be more competitive in that space is look at a kid and say "You won't have to go to class, you won't have to maintain X grades, we will have staffers help you with your school work" And that is why ND will never get kids like most SEC schools. And I know this to be a fact, one of my good buddies nephew was a top rated HS RB that was a UGA legacy...and still ended up at Bama (and stuck after Saban left). The only other school that was being considered after the 2 mentioned was OSU. And although it still would have been a cake walk...It wouldn't have been a BAMA cake walk.