Comey and the FBI cleared her. What was he going to prosecute her for? He obviously knew this and pushed to get the laws changed so that what she had done would be a crime in the future…….which he then broke himself lol.
How is it horrible to make the president above the law? Is that a genuine question?
I mean, Trump could have made up a bunch of BS with a fake Russian dossier to charge her with...I dunno? Oh wait, Hillary did that, and then Democrats used that as a basis to impeach him.
Still not seeing why it’s a bad ruling.
But it doesn’t. That’s hyperbole.
The FBI was investigating his connections to Russia well before they were ever made aware of Steele. Hell Fusion GPS themselves was investigating it funded by republicans before they began working with Steele seperately.
It's not hyperbole. Any president now has impunity to do whatever they feel like as long as it lands under the vague umbrella of being in service of their "official duties".
Why are you suggesting it’s a vague umbrella? Because you don’t understand it? Or because you want to have a reason to bitch about it? Or because your echo chamber has told you it’s vague and Trump will start murdering people in the streets and declare it official duties like Michael Scott declaring bankruptcy…
This isn’t new…
Fake news!! Where are you getting this erroneous thought? In one conversation you acknowledge this “vague umbrella” is going to the courts and here you are making it sound like the President himself is the arbiter of the “vague umbrella”, which is it? I’ll answer for you, the courts. Stop, you look foolish.
Why would I be concerned about Trump being prosecuted? Don did the crimes, Don should do the time. If you don't want your president held accountable for his actions he should brazenly break the law.
It is vague. The Supreme Court didn't define it. So on a case by case basis each one of these would be crimes would need to be sent through the courts to determine if it is an official duty or not. Like we're seeing with Trump right now. Guess which way the SC will land if it's a republican President lol.
Guess which it way lands if the SC was flipped lol? You are just slobbering sour grapes because it’s not in your best interest today.
I said in my very first post in this thread that this ruling sets a terrible precedent regardless of how it ends up affecting Trump and his charges. The Supreme Court is supposed to apolitical and we shouldn't have to determine which presidents we can or can't hold accountable based on what the makeup of the court happens to be.
Comparing Jan 6 to BLM riots isn’t insane but it’s in your best interest to call it insane.
I agree. But I didn’t see where the SC said they were being selective based on politics. The district court can rule on the matter, Trump can appeal if he wants… the issue is that now Biden is dead in the water and the thought is that this will never see a court room because things will be delayed and that makes people angry… and I get it because it’s not convenient for you.
Throw them all in prison. I don't care about any of them and have never argued on their behalf or said anything about BLM protests. I don't know why you think this is some gotcha. This is completely irrelevant to me thinking Trump should be held accountable for trying to overthrow the 2020 election.
Slippery Slopes. Precedence. Things you brought up for 500 Alex.
Of course they aren't going to say that part out loud. The issue is making this ruling at all gives the avenue for dismissing against any president they feel like.
Chutkan will rule against Trump. Trump will appeal and if this ever did make it back to the SC before the election I would bet every dollar in my bank account that they would find some justification to bend over backwards and rule that his actions fell under their interpretation of his official duties.
Not really. At that point Trump is done for politically. They can just uphold the lower courts ruling and let him hang (proverbially).
Which would make sense if my opinion on BLM and Jan 6th were opposed to each other.
I’m glad you think leaders of BLM committed an insurrection and should be prosecuted.
Insurrection doesn't make sense in this context, but if they committed crimes go for it.
No I think you are. I'm not the one going out of my way to try and defend one of these events.
Nope… precedent, remember? Precedent says they will send to district court.
So you are sayin the SC is just as predictable as a Manhattan Court/Jury but let’s honor one and not the other… again convenient for you.
And after it's sent to the district court if upheld it will be appealed to the SC. The only reason this one was sent back was because they just made this ruling. In future cases the official/unofficial will be ruled on before it gets to the SC the first time.
Manhattan ruled on the basis of him having or having not broken the law he's accused of breaking, and that's how it should be. The SC will be ruling on if he was allowed to break the law anyways. That's the issue.
Of course it doesn’t for you. Predictable. I guess we are giving permission to take over government buildings not named The Capitol.
What am I defending? And this what you said… not me!!
January 6th every single time it's brought up. Yes the slippery slope of a president being immune from any legal repercussions for anything the SC can justify as within his official scope seems pretty fucking slippery to me.
Then cry then when it doesn’t happen.
Honor the courts. That’s what the left has told us.
I don't even understand what you're getting at with this.
Yes this ruling is the opposite of that. Giving presidents a get out of jail free card is not honoring the courts or the laws of our country.