ND's Talking Heads ... The good, bad & ugly

[IAIrish]

It makes sense. ND has proven that they're gonna hit their major needs hard, and probably successfully, when they go after an NIL/transfer prospect.

Next offseason's biggest need for an instant contributor will be DT, as you're losing two long-time contributors in Cross and Mills.

NIL means you don't have to go into 2025 hoping one of the youngsters with limited snaps is ready to be The Man. You can bring a guy that's already done it, and ease the other guys in.

One interesting nugget I caught from power hour this week while Mike and Jamie were talking about this recruiting class and nil. The perpetually grumpy frank flat out said he's not worried about nil anymore.

He clearly knows something he isn't allowed to come out and share, but suffice to say, ND won't often be outbid. I don't think that means we're handing out bags to come, but players know they're getting paid when they enroll.

Come to think of it, when is the last time we lost a coach due to only money? I realize we're not that far from the Ludwig fiasco (which sounds like there was more at play) but I'm digging the new ND approach.

 

[NDMD]

One interesting nugget I caught from power hour this week while Mike and Jamie were talking about this recruiting class and nil. The perpetually grumpy frank flat out said he's not worried about nil anymore.

He clearly knows something he isn't allowed to come out and share, but suffice to say, ND won't often be outbid. I don't think that means we're handing out bags to come, but players know they're getting paid when they enroll.

Come to think of it, when is the last time we lost a coach due to only money? I realize we're not that far from the Ludwig fiasco (which sounds like there was more at play) but I'm digging the new ND approach.

Pretty sure Mike Frank intimated that now that it's technically legal to pay kids to come, he isn't worried about ND. If the Perpetual Curmudgeon isn't worried about it, ND must really be stepping up. He did flat out say if ND doesn't land recruits, it won't be because of money anymore.

Between that and also being able to sell the degree as a fall back, ND really can sell "best of both worlds" and give me a lot of optimism about future recruiting.

 

[ColinKSU]

Pretty sure Mike Frank intimated that now that it's technically legal to pay kids to come, he isn't worried about ND. If the Perpetual Curmudgeon isn't worried about it, ND must really be stepping up. He did flat out say if ND doesn't land recruits, it won't be because of money anymore.

Between that and also being able to sell the degree as a fall back, ND really can sell "best of both worlds" and give me a lot of optimism about future recruiting.

Mike has to find something to be grumpy about. ND’s getting a new facility, a private chef for meals, is paying its coaches and stepping up NIL.

I’m worried about the guy.

 

[NDMatt91]

On their podcast today, Greg and Jamie played "buy or sell" for ND getting the following players:

Meadows: Buy (Greg), Buy (Jamie)
Hines: Sell (Greg), Sell (Jamie)
Hall: Buy (Greg), Buy (Jamie)
Robinson: Sell (Greg), Buy (Jamie)
NOB: Buy (Greg), Buy (Jamie)
Faraimo: Buy (Greg), Buy (Jamie)

They both said "buy" on Ivan Taylor signing with ND and they didn't even mention Blair, although I suspect they both think he'll go to ND.

 

[ND7983]

On their podcast today, Greg and Jamie played "buy or sell" for ND getting the following players:

Meadows: Buy (Greg), Buy (Jamie)
Hines: Sell (Greg), Sell (Jamie)
Hall: Buy (Greg), Buy (Jamie)
Robinson: Sell (Greg), Buy (Jamie)
NOB: Buy (Greg), Buy (Jamie)
Faraimo: Buy (Greg), Buy (Jamie)

They both said "buy" on Ivan Taylor signing with ND and they didn't even mention Blair, although I suspect they both think he'll go to ND.

Selling both Robinson & Hines is a bad decision.

 

[CanadalovesND]

Selling both Robinson & Hines is a bad decision.

The context was not if they should take them, but it they will land them.

 

[NDFAN2008]

The context was not if they should take them, but it they will land them.

Hines announces in two weeks all signs point towards us

 

[Cpnd1]

Felt like the narrative immediately after the visit was that we would finish 2nd for Meadows. Nice to hear people think we can win this one, but I’m still hesitant

 

[IAIrish]

Felt like the narrative immediately after the visit was that we would finish 2nd for Meadows. Nice to hear people think we can win this one, but I’m still hesitant

He visits bama this weekend. We should all be hesitant.

 

[ND7983]

The context was not if they should take them, but it they will land them.

Like I said, that’s a bad decision (to answer sell on both).

 

[PutuporShutup]

Hines announces in two weeks all signs point towards us

I hope so, he brings speed and ball skills this wr class is lacking

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

NIL era
buy em allll

 

[allenm5333]

Selling both Robinson & Hines is a bad decision.

Greg admitted it was pure vibes. Both are concerned Hines if going to Texas. Also feels they think we are picking for Hall

 

[ND7983]

Tom Loy put out a ND recruiting article earlier today.
I’m guessing there wasn’t anything in it since no one has mentioned it?

 

[Rockin’Irish]

Tom Loy put out a ND recruiting article earlier today.
I’m guessing there wasn’t anything in it since no one has mentioned it?

Not really anything new…….just a recap of info that had been circulating over the past few days.

 

[ND7983]

Not really anything new…….just a recap of info that had been circulating over the past few days.

With the new kid covering recruiting for ND, I wonder if Loy just pops in to save face on the ND site since he causes so much drama now working for national. His Deuce reporting pisses a lot of ND people off.

 

[arrowryan]

With the new kid covering recruiting for ND, I wonder if Loy just pops in to save face on the ND site since he causes so much drama now working for national. His Deuce reporting pisses a lot of ND people off.

His Deuce reporting seems very click baity. He’ll drop “news” that isn’t really news, it’s just recycled information.

I appreciate Sinclair and Thomas because you can tell they’re trying hard to pump out content. But they’re really struggling to put out content that is truly VIP/pay wall worthy.

 

[arrowryan]

Not really anything new…….just a recap of info that had been circulating over the past few days.

I was surprised about the Hall news. Hopefully that means good news regarding Hines.

 

[NDMatt91]

I was surprised about the Hall news. Hopefully that means good news regarding Hines.

Does he think Hall is out?

 

[arrowryan]

Does he think Hall is out?

Hall might be looking elsewhere. I’m surprised they couldn’t gain any traction here. In state kid that prioritizes academics should be a guarantee for Notre Dame.

Freeman missed a layup here.

 

[ND7983]

Hall might be looking elsewhere. I’m surprised they couldn’t gain any traction here. In state kid that prioritizes academics should be a guarantee for Notre Dame.

Freeman missed a layup here.

If ND gave him the green light he would be in the class.
ND didn’t miss him.
Hall 100% wants to go to ND.
ND feels they are getting Meadows, Hines & Robinson.

 

[irishandy]

Hall might be looking elsewhere. I’m surprised they couldn’t gain any traction here. In state kid that prioritizes academics should be a guarantee for Notre Dame.

Freeman missed a layup here.

Is Hall out because ND is in good shape with Meadows, Robinson, & Hines?

Hall is a take even if we land all 3 above, you don't say no to David Bell 2.0; I agree this is a missed layup.

 

[fightingirish26]

His Deuce reporting seems very click baity. He’ll drop “news” that isn’t really news, it’s just recycled information.

I appreciate Sinclair and Thomas because you can tell they’re trying hard to pump out content. But they’re really struggling to put out content that is truly VIP/pay wall worthy.

Thomas is new so can't really judge at the moment but Sinclair just doesn't have recruiting reporter chops, and I think it's been long enough to say he never will

 

[PutuporShutup]

Is Hall out because ND is in good shape with Meadows, Robinson, & Hines?

Hall is a take even if we land all 3 above, you don't say no to David Bell 2.0; I agree this is a missed layup.

Yeah, saying no to a wr significantly better than our 2 wr commits isn’t ideal

 

[BobbyMac]

His Deuce reporting seems very click baity. He’ll drop “news” that isn’t really news, it’s just recycled information.

I appreciate Sinclair and Thomas because you can tell they’re trying hard to pump out content. But they’re really struggling to put out content that is truly VIP/pay wall worthy.

This. It's infotainment though only entertaining if you are one of the 17 Ole Miss subscribers.

 

[NDMatt91]

Yeah, saying no to a wr significantly better than our 2 wr commits isn’t ideal

Especially if it's true that Bettis could get a shot at Safety down the line.

 

[arrowryan]

If ND gave him the green light he would be in the class.
ND didn’t miss him.
Hall 100% wants to go to ND.
ND feels they are getting Meadows, Hines & Robinson.

If that’s the case, then awesome.

But Loy was singing a different tune in his update.

 

[MacIrish75]

I just need to know so I can find the most appropriate gifs—do we like/trust Loy today, or not?

 

[BobbyMac]

Not sure if I shared this here or on a Twitter list I'm on.

There's a sports reporter I know from my HS days who lives in the northern Indy burbs. A few days ago, a mutual friend was talking to him about Hall and he said ND was up front with him & told him he's on deck. What wasn't clear is if Hall needs one of Meadows, Robinson, Hines to drop out, or two.

Anyways, it sounded like Hall was preceding as if he won't get that call even though ND is keeping the process alive. He's actively involved with Purdue and Stanford and Purdue basketball is possibly part of the equation.

Since that conversation, it seems Hines isn't as strong as reported. But my guess is, Hall has to wait until ND is sure Hines is going elsewhere before green lighting him as Hines is the only guy in this class with elite wheels.

 

[BobbyMac]

Especially if it's true that Bettis could get a shot at Safety down the line.

ND's gonna gave to switch to a 2-1-8 to utilize all these Safeties.