ND's Talking Heads ... The good, bad & ugly

[zelezo vlk]

a beat writer going on vacation during spring ball is kind of strange no?

A little but if he's able to then all power to him.

 

[Rocket89]

Spring football is basically this now:

90% Staff/player interviews chopped up into videos and articles
7% Practice writeups based on workouts in shorts/stretching/positional drill work
3% Practice writeups based on full team work

AI can cover spring practice pretty easily. I'd go to Europe now too, they've made it harder than ever to cover the team and gain real insight into the program and player development.

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

Spring football is basically this now:

90% Staff/player interviews chopped up into videos and articles
7% Practice writeups based on workouts in shorts/stretching/positional drill work
3% Practice writeups based on full team work

AI can cover spring practice pretty easily. I'd go to Europe now too, they've made it harder than ever to cover the team and gain real insight into the program and player development.

More to the point, it's probably a time when CFB fans are consuming more content so you would probably want to be producing content even if it's filler.

EDIT: Anyway, it's only been 19 days since Sampson last put out an article for The Athletic so it's not as if he's taken a huge hiatus.

 

[zelezo vlk]

No offense to Pete, but his post-practice stuff was never his draw. Love the Tims and John Brice over at II (haven't heard enough from their new guy) plus Jamie at ISD for their practice stuff. But Pete's work has been increasingly long-form or deep dive.

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

But Pete's work has been increasingly long-form or deep dive.

I mean, that is literally what The Athletic does. There's a reason for the change.

 

[FWIrish4]

More to the point, it's probably a time when CFB fans are consuming more content so you would probably want to be producing content even if it's filler.

EDIT: Anyway, it's only been 19 days since Sampson last put out an article for The Athletic so it's not as if he's taken a huge hiatus.

I feel like this is actually a pretty long time. 3 weeks without any content in the middle of spring ball is a bit bizarre. He could have easily written some deeper dive articles beforehand and had them post while he was gone.

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

a beat writer going on vacation during spring ball is kind of strange no?

Also - someone said Europe
But, I know a few weeks back he said he'd be going on vacation/assignment to write stories about certain QBs from Mississippi and Alabama while down there...
Aka, Deuce and Riley

 

[Huntr]

The Knight piece dropped a couple weeks ago and the Leonard piece was in February.

 

[BobbyMac]

Also - someone said Europe
But, I know a few weeks back he said he'd be going on vacation/assignment to write stories about certain QBs from Mississippi and Alabama while down there...
Aka, Deuce, Riley and the most important ND prospect in HS today... Gunner

FIFY

 

[ColinKSU]

No offense to Pete, but his post-practice stuff was never his draw. Love the Tims and John Brice over at II (haven't heard enough from their new guy) plus Jamie at ISD for their practice stuff. But Pete's work has been increasingly long-form or deep dive.

Yeah I’m not sure I’ve ever gotten a ton of genuine insight into the game from Pete. That’s kind of why he works in The Athletic’s format. Nothing wrong with that.

 

[Huntr]

New guy twitter link

 

[zelezo vlk]

I was wondering who he was replacing but I forgot Loy is a national guy now


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[Ian77]

Yeah I’m not sure I’ve ever gotten a ton of genuine insight into the game from Pete. That’s kind of why he works in The Athletic’s format. Nothing wrong with that.

His niche does seem to be the 40,000 foot view of ND football, and that's fine. He gets things right, unlike a lot of other national publications when they focus on ND. He also seems like a genuinely nice guy, which definitely isn't a given with some other ND beat reporters. You do need to have the patience of a saint.

 

[stpeteirish]

Everyone at the Athletic is a bad month away from getting laid off anyway. Might as well jump to the front of the line and save someone else's job.

 

[IrishBoognish]

His niche does seem to be the 40,000 foot view of ND football, and that's fine. He gets things right, unlike a lot of other national publications when they focus on ND. He also seems like a genuinely nice guy, which definitely isn't a given with some other ND beat reporters. You do need to have the patience of a saint.

100%

Prister is a valuable resource, but holy hell does he not take well to any pushback. He's just too old to understand the nuance of internet discourse and gets pissed.

O'Malley I really like, but he again takes it a little personal sometimes.

Sampson floats above it all and gives some pretty useful unvarnished opinions.

(Loy tended to get really upset too when people doubted him...) but it's a really hard job.

 

[dublinirish]

Everyone at the Athletic is a bad month away from getting laid off anyway. Might as well jump to the front of the line and save someone else's job.

Not many working in sports journalism are the main bread winner in their family. Sampson, Brice etc all included


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[ColinKSU]

His niche does seem to be the 40,000 foot view of ND football, and that's fine. He gets things right, unlike a lot of other national publications when they focus on ND. He also seems like a genuinely nice guy, which definitely isn't a given with some other ND beat reporters. You do need to have the patience of a saint.

There’s usually some time dedicated to letting us know how stupid Notre Dame fans are on both of his podcasts, but it’s not typically coming from Pete…

 

[stlnd01]

Yeah I’m not sure I’ve ever gotten a ton of genuine insight into the game from Pete. That’s kind of why he works in The Athletic’s format. Nothing wrong with that.

Pete does not have the background/insight that the best former-player TV color guys (Mayock, Orlovsky) can bring. Nor is he a big Xs and Os guy. But the occasional series he's done for the Athletic where he sits down with players to analyze plays from their past season - the way the players see them - is some of the most insightful football journalism I've ever read.

 

[loweND]

O'Malley I really like, but he again takes it a little personal sometimes.

I find O'Malley incredibly condescending on the II podcast. Always making sarcastic statements mocking 'silly ND fan points of view'. Seriously off-putting.

 

[zelezo vlk]

Tbf listening to any of the ND beat (or anyone in football) talk about things can be frustrating. They can do a complete 180 and say it’s what everyone always saw or knew. And listening to them talk about things they have no knowledge about (especially the NFL) is infuriating to anyone who actually bothers to pay attention lol.

Then again plenty of NFL guys miss badly all the time. Couldn’t tell you the number of NFL media guys who said Minnesota should just bring back Cousins on a 1 year deal as if that’d ever move the needle…


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[FightingIrishLover7]

Lmao
In IBs Livestream today the chat apparently wanted them to start discussing QBs more (or something like that) and Driskell went ape shit and called them little bitches for whining
Lmfao

 

[BobbyMac]

Tbf listening to any of the ND beat (or anyone in football) talk about things can be frustrating.

I've consumed as much ND content as anyone in the past 10 years and I've listened to ND podcasts/youtube channels less than a handful of times.

They all suck in long verbal form.

 

[INLaw]

I've consumed as much ND content as anyone in the past 10 years and I've listened to ND podcasts/youtube channels less than a handful of times.

They all suck in long verbal form.

Its like all media, as long as you know the presenter’s bias then it can be useful

 

[Huntr]

Tbf listening to any of the ND beat (or anyone in football) talk about things can be frustrating. They can do a complete 180 and say it’s what everyone always saw or knew. And listening to them talk about things they have no knowledge about (especially the NFL) is infuriating to anyone who actually bothers to pay attention lol.

This is why I'm glad we have Brice, now. That guy knows more about football than any of them. He's better at picking out details of play and highlighting their importance and he's not reticent to criticize. He's better at giving us the context of ND in the national landscape, in that he has sources outside of ND football that he leans on, in addition to those he's cultivated since he's writing *for* ND, as well. This is hard to describe, but I think he does a good job of acting like an SEC beat writer on the ND beat.

Prister and O'Malley know ND history better, of course, but Prister is not cut out for social media interaction and O'Malley just wants to play chuckle fuck a lot of the time. I like Sampson and his long form stuff in The Athletic, but, I look elsewhere for game analysis.

Anyone can speak in generalities about ND being a blueblood and always having a seat at the table, etc, etc. I want to know what a guy/team does on the field that makes him/them good, compared to what other guys/teams do that make them not as good. Brice is great at that.

 

[CanadalovesND]

This is why I'm glad we have Brice, now. That guy knows more about football than any of them. He's better at picking out details of play and highlighting their importance and he's not reticent to criticize. He's better at giving us the context of ND in the national landscape, in that he has sources outside of ND football that he leans on, in addition to those he's cultivated since he's writing *for* ND, as well. This is hard to describe, but I think he does a good job of acting like an SEC beat writer on the ND beat.

Prister and O'Malley know ND history better, of course, but Prister is not cut out for social media interaction and O'Malley just wants to play chuckle fuck a lot of the time. I like Sampson and his long form stuff in The Athletic, but, I look elsewhere for game analysis.

Anyone can speak in generalities about ND being a blueblood and always having a seat at the table, etc, etc. I want to know what a guy/team does on the field that makes him/them good, compared to what other guys/teams do that make them not as good. Brice is great at that.

“Chuckle fuck”

That’s kind of his MO.

 

[INLaw]

This is why I'm glad we have Brice, now. That guy knows more about football than any of them. He's better at picking out details of play and highlighting their importance and he's not reticent to criticize. He's better at giving us the context of ND in the national landscape, in that he has sources outside of ND football that he leans on, in addition to those he's cultivated since he's writing *for* ND, as well. This is hard to describe, but I think he does a good job of acting like an SEC beat writer on the ND beat.

Prister and O'Malley know ND history better, of course, but Prister is not cut out for social media interaction and O'Malley just wants to play chuckle fuck a lot of the time. I like Sampson and his long form stuff in The Athletic, but, I look elsewhere for game analysis.

Anyone can speak in generalities about ND being a blueblood and always having a seat at the table, etc, etc. I want to know what a guy/team does on the field that makes him/them good, compared to what other guys/teams do that make them not as good. Brice is great at that.

Spot on

 

[zelezo vlk]

We really are super lucky to have John Brice


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[allenm5333]

We really are super lucky to have John Brice


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His piece on Carr had me fired up

 

[OhioIrish]

Lmao
In IBs Livestream today the chat apparently wanted them to start discussing QBs more (or something like that) and Driskell went ape shit and called them little bitches for whining
Lmfao

I believe Driskel’s hypersensitivity is the most well-documented item in this forum. But, he’s certainly earned the commentary. Incredibly, the people he has added in recent months are so bad that I actually have begun to appreciate him more. Driskel is playing chess, apparently.

 

[ColinKSU]

I believe Driskel’s hypersensitivity is the most well-documented item in this forum. But, he’s certainly earned the commentary. Incredibly, the people he has added in recent months are so bad that I actually have begun to appreciate him more. Driskel is playing chess, apparently.

Knowing Driskel is hypersensitive and incapable of handling even the slightest criticism is the key to understanding literally everything about him.