Just dont get CFB rankings

[T-Boone]

The problem with with Michigan being in is man they play a boring brand of footy. I can barely watch without dozing off.

 

[ulukinatme]

Are you really telling someone on a Notre Dame message board to “accept it and move on”? I’m still not over USC ‘05 or Boston College ‘93. Hell, I’m still pissed you idiots claim the ‘73 title and I wasn’t born yet. I’ll accept none of it!

No joke, that Boston College game will haunt me till the end of my days. Bush Push does suck too, especially since they had to vacate the win in the end.

 

[Grahambo]

Some of you guys must make a fortune gambling on football. Everyone knows exactly who is better than who. Hope you guys all kill it this playoff.

I do alright.

Also, it’s just an opinion.

 

[AllTimeIrish]

That's a quote from the Playoff Committee's executive director. He told you the criteria. Time to just accept the results. FSU went 13-0 against a very weak schedule... their SOS was 55th in the country. Bama went 12-1 against the 4th toughest schedule in the country and beat the #1 team. That's it. Accept it and move on.

Nope, this is not an Alabama board. We don't have to accept your arguments, or even you.

 

[BeauBenken]

No kidding. Really surprised people are arguing this. FSU without Travis is clearly not one of the four best teams. Honestly, the only reason I can think of that people would be arguing is because they hate the SEC. If it was a school like Arizona or something instead of Alabama, they would probably be fine with it. The only team I hate more than the SEC is Michigan, so I am perfectly fine with UM not having a bye playing FSU first round.

No, it's because why do we play an entire season of football if winning those games doesn't matter.

Imagine this isn't the playoffs and its a conference championship. Do you leave out an undefeated team and put in two different teams because you think they're better?

 

[BeauBenken]

To note, I also had an issue with OSU getting to play in the Covid playoffs after having only played 6 games. The other teams had busted their ass for an entire season and the Buckeyes got to completely avoid all the other hardships and potential injuries by playing 4 less games. It was horseshit.

If certain teams only need to show up for a couple of games a season but other ones have to prove it by playing perfect the whole season (and not getting injured!) what the hell are we doing?

 

[WildMan1]

You can’t punish FSU for strength of schedule & sit there okay with Michigan at #1 with the embarrassment they call a schedule.

 

[Kingbish01]

As a fan based that got screwed out of our last National Championship by FSU....how is anyone defending them. I find it hilarious, they usually caught the breaks (1993 & 2000?) but not this year!! Haha

And yes, I'm in the Bama is more deserving than FSU camp...I can name 7/8 teams that could beat them right now WITH Jordan Travis. Also alot of talk about Auburn/Bama, but what about FSU/Boston College??

 

[WildMan1]

To take this a step further, Michigan's offense has been flat out bad against PSU, Ohio State, and Iowa... who were the only teams they've played with real defenses. Bama's defense is ranked 9th by advanced stats which isn't elite but it's very good.

Bama's offense is wildly inconsistent, which is why they've had some nailbiters. But give Nick Saban a whole month? He should coach circles around Harbaugh. They are also built for big plays and have some elite athletes so a lot of how Michigan likes to play defense might not work out as well as it typically does.

Exactly this.. Michigan reminds me of our 2012 squad in some ways..

Firstly, I think they’re a better team overall but their gaudy stats are inflated due to playing absolute TRASH in their first 8 games..

They have the 5th ranked rushing D because they faced offenses such as East Carolina, UNLV, Bowling Green, Michigan St, Minnesota & Indiana..

Of course they look phenomenal on paper lol

“But Bama almost lost to Auburn”

So did Georgia.. Auburn has had a wildly inconsistent season but played up for the big games & played down to the rest.

Georgia absolutely wiped the floor with almost everyone else, ESPECIALLY defensively & Bama came out & beat them straight up.

And Michigan ironically faced their most inept offense to date in the Big 10 championship lol

Simply put, they haven’t sharpened iron with iron & Bama has.. multiple big play TDs, fast, hard hitting D with a few turnovers & Bama rolls by 3 scores imo.

Then Harbaugh bolts to the NFL to avoid sanctions & the absolute gauntlet they face in 2024..

 

[thekid33]

I wish the committee was going away with the expanded playoff. There's still going to be dumb decisions for how they rank the field of 12 and possibly for the final spot or two.

Use an algorithm that factors in the AP Poll, Coaches Poll, SOS, Offensive and Defensive Efficiency, etc.

 

[BleedBlueGold]

The big concern I think people are mentioning with this FSU "snub" is how the 12-team committee views non-B1G and non-SEC teams moving forward. With all of this realignment happening (and the PAC dissolving), how can they stick to "Top 6 conference champions have auto-bids?" Have there been any updates in 12-team criteria since the major realignments?

SEC
B1G
ACC
-what does the Big12 look like w/o OU and TX?
-what other conferences are being considered for auto-bids and are they "worthy" given the obvious lack of SOS

 

[Te'o4Heisman]

As a fan based that got screwed out of our last National Championship by FSU....how is anyone defending them. I find it hilarious, they usually caught the breaks (1993 & 2000?) but not this year!! Haha

And yes, I'm in the Bama is more deserving than FSU camp...I can name 7/8 teams that could beat them right now WITH Jordan Travis. Also alot of talk about Auburn/Bama, but what about FSU/Boston College??

You mean the game that took place the 3rd week of the season, right around the time Alabama actually did lose a game?
And if Auburn who got smoked by New Mexico state COULD be Alabama at full strength h (just as realistic as what you said could happen but didn't since it nearly did actually happen), isnt it easy to say there are probably at least 30 teams who could beat Bama at full strength?

 

[Lberry]

I wish the committee was going away with the expanded playoff. There's still going to be dumb decisions for how they rank the field of 12 and possibly for the final spot or two.

Use an algorithm that factors in the AP Poll, Coaches Poll, SOS, Offensive and Defensive Efficiency, etc.

I think they should just use the old BCS to rank 1-12.

And you're right but I think the teams past ~6 won't have a great claim to be in and will be more thankful to be in. A 10th ranked 10-2 team should feel "lucky" to get a shot against a 13-0 team #3 (just for example).

 

[Te'o4Heisman]

In a 12 team playoff this year, Liberty would have gotten in over OU or LSU.
The new playoff will be just as flawed and corrupt as the current.

 

[Jeffwantpoppers]

I am all about a school that employed the POS Bobby Bowden getting screwed. Love to see it.

 

[thekid33]

In a 12 team playoff this year, Liberty would have gotten in over OU or LSU.
The new playoff will be just as flawed and corrupt as the current.

Under the way they've designed it, yes.

They should just let the computers spit out the top 12. But, there's too much $ involved so it's going to be political.

 

[Lberry]

In a 12 team playoff this year, Liberty would have gotten in over OU or LSU.
The new playoff will be just as flawed and corrupt as the current.

Yes, but it'll never keep a 13-0 P5 Champ out. Literally impossible.

So the teams that miss will be far less justified. You're missing that point. Everyone past #8 has 2 losses and probably doesn't deserve a chance to win it.

 

[ThePiombino]

As a fan based that got screwed out of our last National Championship by FSU....how is anyone defending them. I find it hilarious, they usually caught the breaks (1993 & 2000?) but not this year!! Haha

And yes, I'm in the Bama is more deserving than FSU camp...I can name 7/8 teams that could beat them right now WITH Jordan Travis. Also alot of talk about Auburn/Bama, but what about FSU/Boston College??

1. FSU didn't screw us. The voters did.
2. The integrity of the game has been further tarnished (IMO) by this decision

That's how.

 

[Kingbish01]

You mean the game that took place the 3rd week of the season, right around the time Alabama actually did lose a game?
And if Auburn who got smoked by New Mexico state COULD be Alabama at full strength h (just as realistic as what you said could happen but didn't since it nearly did actually happen), isnt it easy to say there are probably at least 30 teams who could beat Bama at full strength?

Correct, that's the game I'm talking about

You and I both know (if we are being sincere), there aren't 30 teams that could beat Bama... I was at the bar last night with 4 UGA grads...Not one of the bitched, they knew they lost late and it is what it is....But even I was like....You guys won 40 games in between 2 Bama losses, does anyone really believe they aren't a top 4 team???

 

[Kingbish01]

1. FSU didn't screw us. The voters did.
2. The integrity of the game has been further tarnished (IMO) by this decision

That's how.

Both fair and accurate points, but doesn't change my mind. I love watching FSU fans cry....now going on 2 days.

 

[BeauBenken]

 

[forkbeard3777]

You and I both know (if we are being sincere), there aren't 30 teams that could beat Bama... I was at the bar last night with 4 UGA grads...Not one of the bitched, they knew they lost late and it is what it is....But even I was like....You guys won 40 games in between 2 Bama losses, does anyone really believe they aren't a top 4 team???

That’s my point. I agree completely. The whole “pick the 4 best teams” is a farce. Georgia is a top 4 team with 1 loss. Does anyone believe that Washington, an undefeated PAC 12 Champ, would beat them? I don’t. What about Michigan? I certainly don’t.

 

[NDRock]

You can’t punish FSU for strength of schedule & sit there okay with Michigan at #1 with the embarrassment they call a schedule.

When I judge a team’s schedule I look at who they scheduled for non conference games. It’s hard for me to punish FSU for their conference being down this year. What I give them credit for is scheduling two blue blood SEC teams. Show me another team in the country who did that.

Only in college football would a team be punished for losing their starting quarterback, fighting through adversity, and going undefeated. While at the same time, another team schedules nothing but cupcakes, is caught with more evidence against them for cheating than OJ had for murder, whose coach got suspended for half the season, yet is ranked number one in the country and nobody bats an eye lash. What a sport.

 

[forkbeard3777]

When I judge a team’s schedule I look at who they scheduled for non conference games. It’s hard for me to punish FSU for their conference being down this year. What I give them credit for is scheduling two blue blood SEC teams. Show me another team in the country who did that.

Only in college football would a team be punished for losing their starting quarterback, fighting through adversity, and going undefeated. While at the same time, another team schedules nothing but cupcakes, is caught with more evidence against them for cheating then OJ had for murder, who’s coach got suspended for half the season, is ranked number one in the country and nobody bats an eye lash. What a sport.

 

[Kingbish01]

That’s my point. I agree completely. The whole “pick the 4 best teams” is a sham. Georgia is a top 4 team with 1 loss. Does anyone believe that Washington, an undefeated PAC 12 Champ, would beat them? I don’t. What about Michigan? I certainly don’t.

UGA would be double digit favorite against everyone but Bama.....And it would be a tough decision of who people would bet on. I expect Bama to do the exact same thing to Mich that UGA did to them a few years back. And that's....Take them out back and beat the brakes off them.

I'll say it one more time....Take the future bet on Bama to win the Natty....UM won't be a game, and if Wash beats Texas....you'll see a Bama D shut down MPjr like UGA shut down Duggan.... And if it's a rematch against UT, no way Saban looses twice to the same team.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

13-0 in the ACC? In this economy?

Whatever. TV dickheads served this up and basically know people are going to watch no matter what.

 

[GowerND11]

The committee talks out of both sides of their mouth and they always have. They are never objective, they change the criteria to fit what teams they want to put in there, and people consistently defend them. When you say anything negative, these idiots just come back with the same old BuT SoS! LoOk WhO tHeY bEaT while completely excusing the joke schedule of other teams (see Michigan).

Beau hit the nail on the head with his comments earlier about the entire farce. Imagine if Patrick Mahomes got hurt in week 17 this year, and, despite the Chiefs winning the last two games, the NFL says, NAH fam, we're going to put the Chargers in as the AFC West champs and you have to sit at home because your best player is out.

Look at how Liberty got into a NY6 Bowl going undefeated against a joke schedule, while SMU actually challenged themselves and played P5 opponents in nonconference games, AND beat a vastly superior opponent than Liberty in the CCG.

College football has been moving towards a minor league NFL model for years, but it is really starting to take shape. It's the SEC and B1G, with everyone else sort of around. All you have to do is play 2 tough games and a CCG, and you will be rewarded. Notre Dame plays Michigan's schedule and we are 12-1/13-0 (DJ BROWN!!!!), but mark my words people are blowing up the SOS if it's a gold helmet playing that schedule.

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

I'm so glad the committee got it 100% perfectly right with no exceptions or explanation needed.


Also looking forward to the 12 team playoff next year. There are less landmines when working on the final teams in the 10-15 range. None will be undefeated so resumes, worst loss, best win, consistency, etc will all have to be factored in and we'll get a much better idea of what they value when we have more data points every year.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Its gonna be lit when 8-4 Mississippi gets in over 9-3 NC State.

 

[IRISHDODGER]