'22 WA WR Tobias Merriweather (Notre Dame Signee)

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As individual talents I am not that concerned about losing Tyree and Merriwhether, but aren’t they our 2 fastest WR? I think we just got real slow, real fast.
 
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Jiggafini19Deux said:
I don't understand this comment.

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Tyree and Merriweather = 40 catches for 768 yard and 5 TD gone.

They have five true freshmen on the roster, plus Thomas and Colzie, plus three incoming recruits. That's 10, which is what they currently have right now. The max you can put on the field at once is five.

The production of those two guys isn't earth shattering. The room is trending up, and the rebuild adds three more guys in a few weeks, all of whom said this doesn't change things for them (which is word we hope holds).
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Don’t disagree with anything you’ve said, but will add in that the WR production is massively tied to our OC this year.

I don’t believe our WRs were put in the best position to succeed - whether that was the fault of Gerad, Chansi, or some combination is up for debate. But when we have an OC who doesn’t understand the importance of play action and chooses to only use it 2 times in a game, naturally the WRs will have worse production than they could have.

At the end of the day, Tyree was our best WR in a season where he converted to WR - I do think it speaks to Chansi’s coaching. Chansi only just finished year two, and a bunch of his guys were still being coached up + Cam Williams was about to be thrown into the mix. We’ve all acknowledged how young our WR room is.

Saying there will be another rebuild is dramatic, but I’m also not necessarily assuming that we keep everyone who says they “solid” - I think it’s fair to operate on the condition that we do lose one or two more, which would be pretty bad for depth and competition next year.
 
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On the IB 5 hour show yesterday (I fast forward through 95% of it), they talked about WRs who would definitely leave if Stuckey was back.
Then said those WRs would stick around now probably.
Then they went on to talk about how the returning WRs will perform next year under a new WR coach, & they specifically talked about Tobias.
It was obvious Tobias had a huge problem with Stuckey. Interesting that Stuckey gets let go & Tobias still decides to leave.
 
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NumbersGuy0520 said:
Don’t disagree with anything you’ve said, but will add in that the WR production is massively tied to our OC this year.

I don’t believe our WRs were put in the best position to succeed - whether that was the fault of Gerad, Chansi, or some combination is up for debate. But when we have an OC who doesn’t understand the importance of play action and chooses to only use it 2 times in a game, naturally the WRs will have worse production than they could have.

At the end of the day, Tyree was our best WR in a season where he converted to WR - I do think it speaks to Chansi’s coaching. Chansi only just finished year two, and a bunch of his guys were still being coached up + Cam Williams was about to be thrown into the mix. We’ve all acknowledged how young our WR room is.

Saying there will be another rebuild is dramatic, but I’m also not necessarily assuming that we keep everyone who says they “solid” - I think it’s fair to operate on the condition that we do lose one or two more, which would be pretty bad for depth and competition next year.
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Ah, so it's about Parker. Then some assumptions.

As for Stuckey, I'm going to guess that the world looks a hell of a lot different if Thomas, Colzie and Salerno were healthier than they ended up being. That probably leads to the converted running back not being the leading receiver and the walk on lacrosse guy not emerging into a scholarship player. This continues to have to be stated over and over again. Does Stuckey have faults as a person and professional? Yes, of course he does. Was the situation during his two year stint near ideal? Of course not.

The situation had multiple moving parts:

1. Parker
2. Injuries to the veterans in the room
3. The rest of the room being true freshmen.

Too many people seem to have their heads up their ass that Merriweather's lack of production is someone's fault other than his own. With this veteran QB and this room full of young guys coupled with the injuries he had every chance to emerge. He did not.

A bunch of us thought he was going to be Godfather II and he turned out to be Billy Bathgate. So it goes. Sometimes the movie you think will be good just doesn't live up to it.
 
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OhioIrish said:
As individual talents I am not that concerned about losing Tyree and Merriwhether, but aren’t they our 2 fastest WR? I think we just got real slow, real fast.
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I'll add Braylon James to that list too. Faison, Cam Williams, and KK Smith can move, but I think speed should be targeted in the portal (At least one guy).
 
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I doubt MF would make a decision on Stuckey based on a couple non-descript wr’s. MF probably didn’t like the lack of growth at the position throughout the year.
 
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Pops Freshenmeyer said:
Godfather III was RIGHT THERE
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Reaper97 said:
Godfather 3 was nominated for best picture.
Its problem was it didn’t live in the same universe as the greatest first two movies of all time.
In a vacuum, it wasn’t horrible.
It’s like comparing a 7 to twin 10’s.
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GF3 was a very ambiguous film.

As has been Merriweather's career thus far.
 
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Reaper97 said:
Godfather 3 was nominated for best picture.
Its problem was it didn’t live in the same universe as the greatest first two movies of all time.
In a vacuum, it wasn’t horrible.
It’s like comparing a 7 to twin 10’s.
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If not for the first two films, it never gets nominated. IMO. Still, not a terrible movie. Except for the first cousins hooking up.
 
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Jiggafini19Deux said:
I don't understand this comment.

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Tyree and Merriweather = 40 catches for 768 yard and 5 TD gone.

They have five true freshmen on the roster, plus Thomas and Colzie, plus three incoming recruits. That's 10, which is what they currently have right now. The max you can put on the field at once is five.

The production of those two guys isn't earth shattering. The room is trending up, and the rebuild adds three more guys in a few weeks, all of whom said this doesn't change things for them (which is word we hope holds).
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Yeah but 2 guys had hamstring issues and our passing game collapsed against Duke. Depth is important at WR and we’ve been light on numbers since Ian Book was our quarterback.
 
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So...can we axe Parker already? Obviously Stuckey wasn't the problem, he's already been jettisoned. We're bleeding WRs left and right, weather or not they were living up to the hype.
 
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