'19 OH OG Zeke Correll (Notre Dame Signee)

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Crazy Balki said:
I don't think you can start Correll anymore. He simply hasn't been effective at all for weeks, and Clemson was an all-time low for him.

It's funny how Correll is listed at 6'3 306, while Craig is 6'4 307, despite it being PAINFULLY obvious that Craig is a lot bigger than Correll. I'd be shocked if Correll was much bigger than 6'2 295.
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He’ll get measurements at Pro Day this spring which will be “real”.
FWIW PFF gave Craig a excellent rating for his 24 snaps vs Clemson .
 
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Crazy Balki said:
I don't think you can start Correll anymore. He simply hasn't been effective at all for weeks, and Clemson was an all-time low for him.

It's funny how Correll is listed at 6'3 306, while Craig is 6'4 307, despite it being PAINFULLY obvious that Craig is a lot bigger than Correll. I'd be shocked if Correll was much bigger than 6'2 295.
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I agree. Sadly, I think he has the attitude & grit to get after his teammates but you can’t do that when you’re one of the teammates effing up all the time. Poor guy was on skates last Saturday. There’s zero doubt in my mind that opponents DC look at what Clemson & others have done by lining up directly over him and know that’s an easy route for blowing up a play.
 
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PutuporShutup said:
On film he looks small, plays small, and I always expected him to be athletic, but clearly adding whatever weight he did after getting to ND, he lost that athleticism
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He’s still athletic, but it’s tough to look athletic when you’re getting blown up by a DT every snap because you’re underweight
 
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Irish du Nord said:
He’s still athletic, but it’s tough to look athletic when you’re getting blown up by a DT every snap because you’re underweight
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I would also guess that it’s pretty likely that his arm length is not the greatest either.
 
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Last year I used to watch our line come up against pretty decent DLines, and we almost always did quite well (I'm talking about the five OLine not whether the opponents loaded the box or whether RBs or TEs blew assignments.) Our guys graded pretty well. But always there in the middle was a compacting pocket --- not usually horrific (Sam would have climbed it and thrived), but still compacting. I could tell (easily --- don't have to be some pro analyst to notice) that our survival there was because on one side of Correll was an NFL quality guard, and on the other side of him a near-NFL quality guard who was a powerhouse. We leaned Patterson or Lugg in to help Correll a LOT of the time. Their presence made that area of the pocket "safe" even for someone like Drew Pyne. We don't have Patterson's high quality nor Lugg's behemoth power anymore (plus Lugg was smart and could adjust to situations. Some here might remember the play where no one lined up over Josh so he leaned in to help stop Correll's DT at nose, but a well-disguised LB blitz came a count later and Lugg still saw it and shifted slightly, put out one big hand and palmed the LB in his heart and right off his feet --- one of the more impressive balance and stability generation-of-force I saw all year. ) This is why LAST YEAR our concerns were wide rushers beating FISHER more than inner bulling of Correll. Sadly, our new guards are not Patterson and Lugg, and Correll hasn't been able to grow stronger. I had some hope that Correll's trajectory would mimic Sam Mustipher's, who had a similar bulling problem (which finally caught up to him in the pros, but OK at ND.)
 
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Old Man Mike said:
Last year I used to watch our line come up against pretty decent DLines, and we almost always did quite well (I'm talking about the five OLine not whether the opponents loaded the box or whether RBs or TEs blew assignments.) Our guys graded pretty well. But always there in the middle was a compacting pocket --- not usually horrific (Sam would have climbed it and thrived), but still compacting. I could tell (easily --- don't have to be some pro analyst to notice) that our survival there was because on one side of Correll was an NFL quality guard, and on the other side of him a near-NFL quality guard who was a powerhouse. We leaned Patterson or Lugg in to help Correll a LOT of the time. Their presence made that area of the pocket "safe" even for someone like Drew Pyne. We don't have Patterson's high quality nor Lugg's behemoth power anymore (plus Lugg was smart and could adjust to situations. Some here might remember the play where no one lined up over Josh so he leaned in to help stop Correll's DT at nose, but a well-disguised LB blitz came a count later and Lugg still saw it and shifted slightly, put out one big hand and palmed the LB in his heart and right off his feet --- one of the more impressive balance and stability generation-of-force I saw all year. ) This is why LAST YEAR our concerns were wide rushers beating FISHER more than inner bulling of Correll. Sadly, our new guards are not Patterson and Lugg, and Correll hasn't been able to grow stronger. I had some hope that Correll's trajectory would mimic Sam Mustipher's, who had a similar bulling problem (which finally caught up to him in the pros, but OK at ND.)
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I’ve heard this mentioned from some of the ND beat as well. I believe Spindler & Coogan are RS Soph. They’re 1st year starters in their 3rd year in the program. They’ve had their ups & downs this year. Spindler struggled early & now Coogan has shown signs of struggle (especially last Saturday). Your point is well taken in that the 2 current guards have their hands full w/ their assignment & opponent. Hopefully they get enough season this year to acquire that savvy you described we lost when Lugg & Patterson cycled out.
 
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IRISHDODGER said:
I’ve heard this mentioned from some of the ND beat as well. I believe Spindler & Coogan are RS Soph. They’re 1st year starters in their 3rd year in the program. They’ve had their ups & downs this year. Spindler struggled early & now Coogan has shown signs of struggle (especially last Saturday). Your point is well taken in that the 2 current guards have their hands full w/ their assignment & opponent. Hopefully they get enough season this year to acquire that savvy you described we lost when Lugg & Patterson cycled out.
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I think as a few have mentioned, Fisher really needs to be a guard next year and return. I hope ND sells him on coming back, start at guard that really is your position, dominate and be a first rounder instead of going pro now and maybe being 3rd rounder. Other option is he comes back as LT, but i don't think he can play tackle in the NFL successfully.

You then maybe hit the portal for a tackle if you aren't confiden it's wagner and jagusah together as first time starters.

Coogan/spindler haven't done anything to solidify their starting spot. Due to that, i'd prefer we have only one of those two and Billy starting at guard next year.

Transfer LT, Fisher, Craig, Spindler/billy/coogan, Wagner/Jagusah
 
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PutuporShutup said:
I think as a few have mentioned, Fisher really needs to be a guard next year and return. I hope ND sells him on coming back, start at guard that really is your position, dominate and be a first rounder instead of going pro now and maybe being 3rd rounder. Other option is he comes back as LT, but i don't think he can play tackle in the NFL successfully.

You then maybe hit the portal for a tackle if you aren't confiden it's wagner and jagusah together as first time starters.

Coogan/spindler haven't done anything to solidify their starting spot. Due to that, i'd prefer we have only one of those two and Billy starting at guard next year.

Transfer LT, Fisher, Craig, Spindler/billy/coogan, Wagner/Jagusah
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Some have speculated that Fisher dropping weight actually hurt his performance. Agree that he’s a guard but I’d be ok w/ him at RT if he’s the best man for the job. Would like to see them get an LT in the portal if available. I think Schrauth can overtake one of the current guards provided he improves his pass blocking.
 
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A lot of 5/6th year guys from the BK era who won a lot of games & played a lot of snaps, who were good leaders & dependable, all leaving.

Those are guys you love to have on your roster next year.
 
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Writing was on the wall for Zeke. Sure Rudolph told him he wasn’t starting anymore.
 
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Giddyup said:
Writing was on the wall for Zeke. Sure Rudolph told him he wasn’t starting anymore.
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Probably, but I would still want him on the roster.
Tell him to come back for open competition in the spring.

What if Craig freaks out in front of 105,000 rowdy fans? Or gets hurt anytime during the season, or last game at USC with CFP spot on the line & goes down?
Wouldn’t it be nice to bring in a 3 year starter who started a CFP game & NY6 game who won’t get rattled?

I want experienced players as backups, not freshmen.
 
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