ND's Talking Heads ... The good, bad & ugly

[IA4irish]

I'll give him credit for keeping it going, because he's probably one of the luckiest people walking the Earth.

How is he lucky? Being completely serious here

 

[NDpendent]

Let's not talk about to poorly about Driskell because it was his bitching session on the IB boards about IE that brought me to Irish Envy. And now I save 5.99 a month for better content.

Side note this gives Irishdrunk another reason to hate Driskell

 

[ColinKSU]

Really any analyst that wasn't upset with War Daddy being promoted and didn't state that having an inexperienced OC will cost us games this season isn't really an analyst but another Homer spouting their deluded thoughts of ND grandeur. Unfortunately, that includes most of the beat writers and analysts. Certainly, IB. In fact I didn't see any analyst that was highly critical of the internal, cheap hire. It was more like, okay lets give him a try type of get-along attitude.

We will know when ND has gotten serious about being a Top 10 program and it starts with have a Top 10 staff to begin with.

The Irish Illustrated folks are currently in sell mode for the program about why continuity on the staff important and that their readers and listeners don’t know ball if they blame Parker for the problems on offense…

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

How is he lucky? Being completely serious here

It was documented in Scott Eden's book Touchdown Jesus: Faith and Fandom at Notre Dame. It was about the 2004 season.

The story goes that Mike Frank was about ready to pack it up and call it quits doing the ND beat. Then out of the blue, he gets an anonymous tip that Notre Dame is going to fire Willingham. He was able to get out in front of the news and break it. After that he takes off.

I don't know if the fairy godmother was ever revealed, but someone inside decided to leak what was going to happen and chose Frank of all people. It saved his career.

 

[BoredIrish]

Changes to the coaching staff will be interesting this year with John Brice now working for Irish Illustrated. Hopefully that leads to a bit more inside info because as of now, the "insiders" dont have much.

 

[Irishdrunk]

Let's not talk about to poorly about Driskell because it was his bitching session on the IB boards about IE that brought me to Irish Envy. And now I save 5.99 a month for better content.

Side note this gives Irishdrunk another reason to hate Driskell

Hate is a strong word. He definitely seems like a spiteful, hateful type against me and other former IB subscribers. I was saddened, initially, to see a guy so dedicated to his blogging, be so obstinate in his misguided beliefs and taking those flawed beliefs against his posters with such silly ire. So, overtime, I just see him as a buffoon. Always worth a laugh.

 

[zelezo vlk]

Changes to the coaching staff will be interesting this year with John Brice now working for Irish Illustrated. Hopefully that leads to a bit more inside info because as of now, the "insiders" dont have much.

We are incredibly lucky to have Brice covering the team.


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[NDQuebec]

We are incredibly lucky to have Brice covering the team.


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A fine addition to an already great group.

 

[Free Manera]

Brice is awesome. He knows things that the others do not.

 

[dublinirish]

the thing about Brice though is that he is wasted talking purely about ND football and doing game recaps and such. He's way more interesting when hes speaking about what is going on at a national level, the booster politics, the disfunction of SEC teams etc. Listening to him tell us that Audric Estime is a powerful runner is boring, but him bagging on SEC schools for being braindead clueless fuckturds is great

 

[Huntr]

the thing about Brice though is that he is wasted talking purely about ND football and doing game recaps and such. He's way more interesting when hes speaking about what is going on at a national level, the booster politics, the disfunction of SEC teams etc. Listening to him tell us that Audric Estime is a powerful runner is boring, but him bagging on SEC schools for being braindead clueless fuckturds is great

He's a better writer than like 90% of the beat. That alone makes me want to read what he writes. The fact that he knows football better than any of them is almost a bonus.

 

[Irish du Nord]

the thing about Brice though is that he is wasted talking purely about ND football and doing game recaps and such. He's way more interesting when hes speaking about what is going on at a national level, the booster politics, the disfunction of SEC teams etc. Listening to him tell us that Audric Estime is a powerful runner is boring, but him bagging on SEC schools for being braindead clueless fuckturds is great

Link please.

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

the thing about Brice though is that he is wasted talking purely about ND football and doing game recaps and such. He's way more interesting when hes speaking about what is going on at a national level, the booster politics, the disfunction of SEC teams etc. Listening to him tell us that Audric Estime is a powerful runner is boring, but him bagging on SEC schools for being braindead clueless fuckturds is great

Monday's II podcast there was a long Brice/UM segment that was great. Hoping for more of that.

 

[dublinirish]

Link please.

Monday's II podcast

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

Also
Thursday II podcast, Tim P officially mentioned CW Jr as an option.

 

[mango4]

Also
Thursday II podcast, Tim P officially mentioned CW Jr as an option.

The Prince that was Promised

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

The Prince that was Promised

"the night is darkest just before the dawn"

 

[IRISHDODGER]

Also
Thursday II podcast, Tim P officially mentioned CW Jr as an option.

Listening to “Locked On Irish”, the host said now that’s he‘s digested that aftermath to the Clemson loss in which he said changes needed to be made, he has a different opinion on OC. He thinks there’s a 65% likelihood Parker is back as OC. Reason being is that IF ND can win next two games comfortably & win bowl game, it’ll be hard to fire a guy whose offense helped to a 10-win season & top 15 scoring offense. He didn’t say he agreed with it but that’s his predictoon.

To me that’s a lot of IFs. With how anemic the offense has been, I think ND should win next two games but I’m skeptical that both will be comfortable wins. The bowl game is a complete wild card b/c if they finish 9-3 it looks like they’ll be matched up vs SEC team in Reliaquest Bowl. That team will be talented & a good measuring stick unless there are too many key opt outs.

 

[dublinirish]

Also
Thursday II podcast, Tim P officially mentioned CW Jr as an option.

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

OTOneH, there are significant issues that can't be laid at Parker's feet. OTOtherH, I haven't seen anything from the offense that instills confidence in Parker going forward.

Ultimately, even if it's not Parker's fault I think you should still make a move. ND is going to have an uphill battle getting a good QB to show up for 2024.

 

[GreenGemsOmally]

Listening to “Locked On Irish”, the host said now that’s he‘s digested that aftermath to the Clemson loss in which he said changes needed to be made, he has a different opinion on OC. He thinks there’s a 65% likelihood Parker is back as OC. Reason being is that IF ND can win next two games comfortably & win bowl game, it’ll be hard to fire a guy whose offense helped to a 10-win season & top 15 scoring offense. He didn’t say he agreed with it but that’s his predictoon.

To me that’s a lot of IFs. With how anemic the offense has been, I think ND should win next two games but I’m skeptical that both will be comfortable wins. The bowl game is a complete wild card b/c if they finish 9-3 it looks like they’ll be matched up vs SEC team in Reliaquest Bowl. That team will be talented & a good measuring stick unless there are too many key opt outs.

I get it, but top 15 scoring offense is such a misleading stat, given that our defense has been scoring a shit ton AND giving ridiculously short fields. On actual drives by the full offense, we've struggled mightily for half the season.

 

[ColinKSU]

Listening to “Locked On Irish”, the host said now that’s he‘s digested that aftermath to the Clemson loss in which he said changes needed to be made, he has a different opinion on OC. He thinks there’s a 65% likelihood Parker is back as OC. Reason being is that IF ND can win next two games comfortably & win bowl game, it’ll be hard to fire a guy whose offense helped to a 10-win season & top 15 scoring offense. He didn’t say he agreed with it but that’s his predictoon.

To me that’s a lot of IFs. With how anemic the offense has been, I think ND should win next two games but I’m skeptical that both will be comfortable wins. The bowl game is a complete wild card b/c if they finish 9-3 it looks like they’ll be matched up vs SEC team in Reliaquest Bowl. That team will be talented & a good measuring stick unless there are too many key opt outs.

Notre Dame: “We can’t fire an OC who couldn’t even move the ball against the good teams on our schedule with a 15-year QB, a loaded backfield, the second best TE in the country and a first round NFL LT until we find out what he can do with a new QB, more inexperienced receivers and missing his best TE for half the season, the top RB in the NFL Draft and at least one of his starting tackles, if not both!”

 

[GreenGemsOmally]

Notre Dame: “We can’t fire an OC who couldn’t even move the ball against the good teams on our schedule with a 15-year QB, a loaded backfield, the second best TE in the country and a first round NFL LT until we find out what he can do with a new QB, more inexperienced receivers, his best TE for half the season, the top RB in the NFL Draft and at least one of his starting tackles, if not both!”

100% right. I wish there was a headbashingwall emoji because that's exactly how I feel.

 

[IRISHDODGER]

I get it, but top 15 scoring offense is such a misleading stat, given that our defense has been scoring a shit ton AND giving ridiculously short fields. On actual drives by the full offense, we've struggled mightily for half the season.

Yes, he pointed out the obvious. The offense was anemic vs top 4 defenses they faced. They also lost to 3 of the 4 best defenses they played. Again, the host is agreeing…just saying the logic that ND will use to retain him.

 

[IRISHDODGER]

The latest II pod was illuminating regarding PA and the lack of it in the offense. The reasoning they stated is that Hartman is horribly inefficient at PA and this dates back to his WF days. As soon as I heard this, my question is “Then why in the hell was he the ‘must get’ for grad transfer QB?”

What made ND believe that a green, unproven WR corps & a 1st time OC would magically turn Sam Hartman into a play-action QB when he struggled w/ it at WF despite having great WR?

 

[FWIrish4]

The latest II pod was illuminating regarding PA and the lack of it in the offense. The reasoning they stated is that Hartman is horribly inefficient at PA and this dates back to his WF days. As soon as I heard this, my question is “Then why in the hell was he the ‘must get’ for grad transfer QB?”

What made ND believe that a green, unproven WR corps & a 1st time OC would magically turn Sam Hartman into a play-action QB when he struggled w/ it at WF despite having great WR?

That portion was pretty tough to listen to as they sort of chastised us message board experts as wrong on the lack of usage of PA.

They never once mentioned the most probable reason PA isn’t working - it looks NOTHING like our actual run plays. Our PA plays are that in name only and truly half assed. There is nothing in our play design that makes the backers/safeties eyes read anything remotely close to our run keys.

Watch the first two plays Ole Miss ran against Georgia last week. They pulled TWO lineman on back to back play action passes to open the game. You know what team pulls multiple linemen on run plays quite often but never emulates the same thing on pass plays? ND.

 

[DillonHall]

Get your facts straight- we're the 16th scoring team in the country. The dynamic Penn State offense is #15

 

[OhioIrish]

Also
Thursday II podcast, Tim P officially mentioned CW Jr as an option.

If he got the chops then he’s got the chops, but it would smack of desperation. I don’t think there is a program in the country whose fortunes are more closely tied to optics than ND, and this would be high, HIGH risk in that regard. IMO, the next OC hire Freeman makes legitimately may determine whether MF succeeds or is shown the door in a couple years. To me, it’s got to be a proven, veteran OC.

 

[FDNYIrish1]

Statistics can be so incredibly deceiving. Third and 1 and I’m praying we can miraculously get a first down. And here we are ranked 16 in scoring offense.

 

[IA4irish]

Statistics can be so incredibly deceiving. Third and 1 and I’m praying we can miraculously get a first down. And here we are ranked 16 in scoring offense.

Totally - Penn state, who just fired their oc and looked absolutely lost, is 15th in scoring offense.

It doesn’t take a genius to see this offense is broken. Totally predictable. Very little scheming to get people open. Not using players with their best skill sets in mind. The qb looks disgusted/disinterested before the play is even being run.