Notre Dame Transfer Portal 2022-2023

[stlnd01]

Isn’t the reason they don’t want to do that is b/c they believe it “cheapens“ an ND degree? To which I’ve heard fans & alums say they don’t give a shit. Typical tone deaf ND

My understanding has always been that basically they don’t want transfers who - mathematically - wouldn’t be able to graduate in four years.

It’s not about admissions standards or intelligence so much as about the ability to complete all the required classes and a major in ~8 semesters as an undergrad. In other words it’s about the graduation rate, mainly.

Notre Dame requires courses you are unlikely to take elsewhere (two semesters each of theology and philosophy, for instance), and there may be courses someone took at their previous school that don’t transfer over. Especially if they’re in a major Notre Dame doesn’t offer (like phys ed or criminal justice, to name two common athlete majors Notre Dame doesn’t have).

Basically you have to have enough time left on the clock to catch up with whatever you’re missing when you get to ND, and still graduate on schedule. Which is why first-year transfers can sometimes work but it gets harder the closer you are to graduation. And it’s probably easier if you go to a school of comparable academic profile where more of your transcript will qualify at Notre Dame too.

 

[NDWarrior]

My understanding has always been that basically they don’t want transfers who - mathematically - wouldn’t be able to graduate in four years.

It’s not about admissions standards or intelligence so much as about the ability to complete all the required classes and a major in ~8 semesters as an undergrad. In other words it’s about the graduation rate, mainly.

Notre Dame requires courses you are unlikely to take elsewhere (two semesters each of theology and philosophy, for instance), and there may be courses someone took at their previous school that don’t transfer over. Especially if they’re in a major Notre Dame doesn’t offer (like phys ed or criminal justice, to name two common athlete majors Notre Dame doesn’t have).

Basically you have to have enough time left on the clock to catch up with whatever you’re missing when you get to ND, and still graduate on schedule. Which is why first-year transfers can sometimes work but it gets harder the closer you are to graduation. And it’s probably easier if you go to a school of comparable academic profile where more of your transcript will qualify at Notre Dame too.

Thanks, that makes sense. If that's true then we have to do great pre-TP open period research and target the few likely eligible transfers early to see what we can get lined up like we did for Hartman. And all the more reason why strong recruiting and retaining our high potential Year 2-4 players who can/will start at some point is so important for ND. So we don't want this season to tank and negatively affect these last 2 areas.

 

[Huntr]

Yeah, clearly they can't take undergrad transfers.

Notre Dame Basketball Lands Seton Hall Transfer Forward Tae Davis
The former Seton Hall forward played in 32 games as a true freshman last season

 

[IRISHDODGER]

With Ewers out for UT, Maalik Murphy will be getting the start this weekend. Listening to Solid Verbal & they think he’s ripe for the portal after this season. ND offer this guy? I think he’s a Serra, HS kid.

 

[stlnd01]

With Ewers out for UT, Maalik Murphy will be getting the start this weekend. Listening to Solid Verbal & they think he’s ripe for the portal after this season. ND offer this guy? I think he’s a Serra, HS kid.

How about their other backup QB instead?

 

[ColinKSU]

With Ewers out for UT, Maalik Murphy will be getting the start this weekend. Listening to Solid Verbal & they think he’s ripe for the portal after this season. ND offer this guy? I think he’s a Serra, HS kid.

Murphy isn’t a freshman or grad transfer, so it’s a non-starter for ND.

Even if he could come in, he isn’t nearly good enough to justify taking over potentially upsetting CJ Carr or Kenny Minchey. If you’re not taking an experienced grad transfer, you’re better off going with someone you developed.

 

[PutuporShutup]

Murphy isn’t a freshman or grad transfer, so it’s a non-starter for ND.

Even if he could come in, he isn’t nearly good enough to justify taking over potentially upsetting CJ Carr or Kenny Minchey. If you’re not taking an experienced grad transfer, you’re better off going with someone you developed.

Nd will and can take a non frosh or grad transfer… it’s not close to as easy as it should be but it’s doable

 

[CanadalovesND]

Nd will and can take a non frosh or grad transfer… it’s not close to as easy as it should be but it’s doable

In this case, he’s just talking about QBs for next season.

 

[NDMatt91]

Murphy isn’t a freshman or grad transfer, so it’s a non-starter for ND.

Since ND Basketball was able to take a kid from NW that is 2 years out of HS, maybe they're only able to take the 2nd/3rd year player who doesn't have their degree from an elite academic institution. Stanford, NW, Vandy, Duke, etc.

 

[stlnd01]

Nd will and can take a non frosh or grad transfer… it’s not close to as easy as it should be but it’s doable

And yet they almost never have, aside from two exceptions who went to elite schools.

I’d also question the wisdom of taking a redshirt freshman QB with less-than-elite talent and minimal experience. If we’re going to take a transfer QB it should be someone who brings something that Angeli, Minchey and Carr do not. We don’t need just another body. Barring a true stud younger QB, I’d much rather a grad transfer one-year rental with a season or two of starting under his belt.

 

[Irish8248]

Isn't the policy that they will but they have to be on track to graduate within 4 years when their credits transfer? And most transfer worthy athletes don't have the academic background to fulfill that requirement.

 

[PutuporShutup]

And yet they almost never have, aside from two exceptions who went to elite schools.

I’d also question the wisdom of taking a redshirt freshman QB with less-than-elite talent and minimal experience. If we’re going to take a transfer QB it should be someone who brings something that Angeli, Minchey and Carr do not. We don’t need just another body. Barring a true stud younger QB, I’d much rather a grad transfer one-year rental with a season or two of starting under his belt.

I'm not saying we should take someone specifically. My point is that I believe ND will go after the right person that fits the football team and academics at notre dame no matter their class year. I wish it was easier, but we shouldn't just say so and so can't come because they're a soph from so and so school because it's not true.

 

[PutuporShutup]

Isn't the policy that they will but they have to be on track to graduate within 4 years when their credits transfer? And most transfer worthy athletes don't have the academic background to fulfill that requirement.

Yes, and you can get around that by taking summer classes to make up the difference. Most football players take courses in the summer so they can keep the fall workload to a minimum, but if you really want to be at ND, you can make up credits and in the summer and take normal loads in the fall/spring.

 

[stlnd01]

I'm not saying we should take someone specifically. My point is that I believe ND will go after the right person that fits the football team and academics at notre dame no matter their class year. I wish it was easier, but we shouldn't just say so and so can't come because they're a soph from so and so school because it's not true.

Fair. This was in the context of someone suggesting we go after this kid from Texas, who seems like just another body in the QB room.

Either way, while it may not be 100 percent categorically true that we can’t take a sophomore, history would suggest exceptions to that general rule are rare. More common/easier for us, and (more importantly) a better fit for our QB needs and pipeline, would be a grad transfer with meaningful experience. That would seem like the “right person” to me. But we shall see.

 

[NDMatt91]

Watching the Duke-WF game and I just thought about all of the good DL in the ACC that ND should NIL the hell out of next year.

DeWayne Carter (Duke)
Jasheen Davis (WF)
Davin Vann (NC State)
Kyle Kennard (GT)

 

[CanadalovesND]

I’d keep an eye on Dayon Hayes from Pitt if he decides to leave Pitt after this season.

 

[Irish du Nord]

Watching the Duke-WF game and I just thought about all of the good DL in the ACC that ND should NIL the hell out of next year.

DeWayne Carter (Duke)
Jasheen Davis (WF)
Davin Vann (NC State)
Kyle Kennard (GT)

He may elect to enter the draft (his stats say he should) but Antwaun Powell Ryland of VT should as well. We offered in HS, originally a UF commit. Portsmouth VA native with 9 sacks in 8 games. Hokies speak highly of him. On the smaller side for an NFL Edge rusher and would presumably be a grad transfer if he were to come to ND

 

[NDMatt91]

He may elect to enter the draft (his stats say he should) but Antwaun Powell Ryland of VT should as well. We offered in HS, originally a UF commit. Portsmouth VA native with 9 sacks in 8 games. Hokies speak highly of him. On the smaller side for an NFL Edge rusher and would presumably be a grad transfer if he were to come to ND

I've been compiling a list of definite grad transfers (currently in their 4th year out of HS) at positions that ND will likely target. He's one of the 6 DE's that I have so far.

Jasheen Davis (WF)
Kyle Kennard (GT)
Nelson Ceaser (Houston)
R.J. Oben (Duke)
Jereme Robinson (Kansas)
Antwaun Powell-Ryland (VT)

 

[Irish du Nord]

I've been compiling a list of definite grad transfers (currently in their 4th year out of HS) at positions that ND will likely target. He's one of the 6 DE's that I have so far.

Jasheen Davis (WF)
Kyle Kennard (GT)
Nelson Ceaser (Houston)
R.J. Oben (Duke)
Jereme Robinson (Kansas)
Antwaun Powell-Ryland (VT)

Do share when you have a chance. I’m curious what we’re looking at with other positions.

 

[NDMatt91]

Do share when you have a chance. I’m curious what we’re looking at with other positions.

I've only done a few positions, and I'm not necessarily a fan of all of these players (I do like all of the DE's, though), but here is the list that I have. I didn't include any players who are 3 years out of HS as I don't know if they'll have their degree. All of these players are in their 4th or 5th year out of HS. Safety has definitely been the hardest position to find quality players who could grad transfer. LaMiles Brooks is a solid player and someone I'd want ND to go after if he hit the portal, but after him there's a drop off based on the film I've seen and what I've read.


Quarterback
Michael Pratt (Tulane)
Cam Rising (Utah)
Will Rogers (Mississippi State)
Hudson Card (Purdue)
Brett Gabbert (Miami OH)
Grayson McCall (Coastal Carolina)
Kurtis Rourke (Ohio)

Wide Receiver
Will Sheppard (Vandy)
Jahmal Banks (WF)
Jeremiah Hunter (Cal)
Isaiah Williams (Illinois)
Ja'Mori Maclin (North Texas)
Taylor Morin (WF)

Defensive End
Jasheen Davis (WF)
Kyle Kennard (GT)
Nelson Ceaser (Houston)
R.J. Oben (Duke)
Jereme Robinson (Kansas)
Antwaun Powell-Ryland (VT)

Safety
LaMiles Brooks (GT)
Bud Clark (TCU)
Beau Brade (Maryland)
Craig Woodson (Cal)
Jacquez Warren (Miami OH)

 

[NDWarrior]

There's speculation that this Boise State WR may be on ND's radar. I hope he's going to be graduated soon... Let the Portal Jockeying begin!

 

[MacIrish75]

There's speculation that this Boise State WR may be on ND's radar. I hope he's going to be graduated soon... Let the Portal Jockeying begin!

@NDWarrior when the Portal thread gets bumping as we enter November/December:

 

[CanadalovesND]

There's speculation that this Boise State WR may be on ND's radar. I hope he's going to be graduated soon... Let the Portal Jockeying begin!

It's purely speculative. It's a list of teams that need an outside receiver.

 

[dublinirish]

There's speculation that this Boise State WR may be on ND's radar. I hope he's going to be graduated soon... Let the Portal Jockeying begin!

TCU fans seem adamant he’s headed home to sign for them in very near future


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[NDFAN2008]

There's speculation that this Boise State WR may be on ND's radar. I hope he's going to be graduated soon... Let the Portal Jockeying begin!

Ain't no high profile WR coming here unless ND goes out and gets a high profile QB

 

[MacIrish75]

Ain't no high profile WR coming here unless ND goes out and gets a high profile QB

You mean free Rhoback swag won’t be enough?

 

[IrishSpartan]

We need another nickel next year. Lewis cannot be a started. That or move carter over.

 

[PutuporShutup]

We need another nickel next year. Lewis cannot be a started. That or move carter over.

If the coaches accept lewis coming back that's a problem.

 

[NDFAN2008]

We should also explore a Center Grad Transfer ain't no one on the roster capable

 

[PutuporShutup]

We should also explore a Center Grad Transfer ain't no one on the roster capable

Craig might be capable… he looked solid from what I could tell