'19 HI ATH Marist Liufau (Notre Dame Signee)

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Jamie at ISD said he counted 3 tackles for Marist in just the first half and didn't bother looking for more in the second half tape because the 3 he saw in the first half proved how egregiously wrong the person tracking stats for the box score was.
 
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BeauBenken said:
Jamie at ISD said he counted 3 tackles for Marist in just the first half and didn't bother looking for more in the second half tape because the 3 he saw in the first half proved how egregiously wrong the person tracking stats for the box score was.
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Yeah, Marist made some crucial mistakes (2-3), but for 50+ other played he did well
 
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Respect to Jamie U. If there is a debate over the errors of a stat tracking person, then Marist needs to play better. I hope he does.
 
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BeauBenken said:
Jamie at ISD said he counted 3 tackles for Marist in just the first half and didn't bother looking for more in the second half tape because the 3 he saw in the first half proved how egregiously wrong the person tracking stats for the box score was.
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I didn’t know that. After the game, I remembered his big whiff on OSU’s first drive & then don’t recall seeing him much other than that weird Stover catch. So I went to ESPN to look at the box score and was surprised to see zero stats. Thanks for clarifying b/c I think we will need him tomorrow & he has had a good track record when playing in the state of NC.
 
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Ophiocordyceps said:
The only thing incorrect about my statement was that Marist played 61 snaps. Similar to myself, he did not show up in the box score as playing defense. I’m not aware of a block absorbing statistic. He did look better the first 3 games, but that was against lesser competition.
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CBs often don’t turn up in the stats as well but could still have had a big influence.
 
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He was better vs Duke than OSU. He is also one of the leaders on defense in snaps played yet nowhere near the top in PFF tackling grades. Jack Kiser is far more productive per PFF when it comes to tackling and he doesn’t play near as much as Marist (due to all the nickel formations I suspect). Don’t get me wrong, Marist is good but he still misses a ton of tackles. He’s got to get better.

Kiser is 3rd on the team w/ tackles & Marist is 7th. Kiser has one TFL (sack), 2 QB Hurries & forced fumble. I think he only had 10 snaps vs Duke.

Some fans want Sneed in more b/c of his athleticism but he’s still raw and struggles in tackling as well but doesn’t command the playbook like Marist. Kiser is less athletic than both of them but commands the playbook. Something needs to give if Marist can’t clean up the missed tackles.
 
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IRISHDODGER said:
He was better vs Duke than OSU. He is also one of the leaders on defense in snaps played yet nowhere near the top in PFF tackling grades. Jack Kiser is far more productive per PFF when it comes to tackling and he doesn’t play near as much as Marist (due to all the nickel formations I suspect). Don’t get me wrong, Marist is good but he still misses a ton of tackles. He’s got to get better.

Kiser is 3rd on the team w/ tackles & Marist is 7th. Kiser has one TFL (sack), 2 QB Hurries & forced fumble. I think he only had 10 snaps vs Duke.

Some fans want Sneed in more b/c of his athleticism but he’s still raw and struggles in tackling as well but doesn’t command the playbook like Marist. Kiser is less athletic than both of them but commands the playbook. Something needs to give if Marist can’t clean up the missed tackles.
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Apparently he was dealing with an injury in the week leading up to the OSU game…….that might at least partly explain his lack of tackles during that game. Looked much better against Duke and hopefully takes another step forward this Saturday.
 
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Marist came out with his hair on fire vs Duke. He played like the cheetah and disruptive playmaker, I’d heard about but only saw flashes. He put it together for 60 minutes. Go Marist.
 
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Not a huge Marist fan but he was great on Saturday. Especially spying Leonard and containing him on runs.

It’s hard when we only play two LBs so much of the time and Bertrand never comes off the field (has played every snap the last two games). I think Kiser is better at some things than Liufau (though his tackles are padded by the Navy game), and Sneed needs to develop. I also think that what Marist does will help us against USC. I guess let’s reassess after that.
 
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IMO Kiser and Sneed should be getting roughly half the LB snaps, Bertrand and Liafau the other half.

Bertrand and Liafau are way too hit or miss to be out there all the time.
 
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IRISHDODGER said:
Some fans want Sneed in more b/c of his athleticism...
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I am not one of those.

The coaches not knowing what they're doing or just being big meanies isn't why Sneed doesn't play more. He ain't ready. Plain and simple. All his high school recruit accolades mean zero to me.

Maybe I'm in the minority, but I want the dudes who are ready to play and have it all together from head to toe.
 
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Jiggafini19Deux said:
I am not one of those.

The coaches not knowing what they're doing or just being big meanies isn't why Sneed doesn't play more. He ain't ready. Plain and simple. All his high school recruit accolades mean zero to me.

Maybe I'm in the minority, but I want the dudes who are ready to play and have it all together from head to toe.
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You need to clarify. Liafau and Bertrand are getting most of the snaps. Do they "have it all together from head to toe"?
 
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Do you guys think Marist comes back next year? Would you guys bring him back?
 
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Lberry said:
I have a feeling all 3 LBs are back next year. I think Kiser passes on the 1st round option.
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Are they all three 5Ys with a sixth year of eligibility? That is a LOT of college football. I would think one or more of them may simply be done. Or ready to try their hand at the NFL even if they're not that high a draft pick. Which would be fine.
That said I wouldn't mind having one of them back next year just for experience sake. (ideally not Bertrand)
 
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Are they all three 5Ys with a sixth year of eligibility? That is a LOT of college football. I would think one or more of them may simply be done. Or ready to try their hand at the NFL even if they're not that high a draft pick. Which would be fine.
That said I wouldn't mind having one of them back next year just for experience sake. (ideally not Bertrand)
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I don't think any of them get drafted, maybe Marist. I just have a feeling they'll be back. I'd be happy to have Marist back, he still has potential IMO.
 
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