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  • Obama

    Votes: 4 1.1%
  • Romney

    Votes: 172 48.9%
  • Other

    Votes: 46 13.1%
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    Votes: 130 36.9%

  • Total voters
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TorontoGold

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1) You're painting a picture as though the whole world is one big commune and every country has the same economic policy and same inflation rates. It's inaccurate, and you're smart enough to know it. Take 15 seconds and pull up inflation rates for every country in the past 2 years. The hard evidence is that our typical 2-3 percent inflation rate jumped to 8 PERCENT the same year Biden passed the $2 trillion "American Rescue Plan."

2) No, you're making this far more complicated than it is. If all Biden voters knew in 2020 what things would be like now, many wouldn't have voted for him. Current polls show us the majority of Americans disapprove of his economic policies.

3) Fiscal conservatives voted for Reagan because of the Carter disaster. Fiscal conservatives voted for Trump because of his economic plans (and because Hillary was a terrible candidate), and things were pretty strong in the US until Covid hit.


1) Alright, take a look and tell me if you still believe that inflation is not a global indicator. The US led the G7 for a longer period than Biden did from 2004 to 2008 with the highest inflation rate of the group. Does this mean that Bush was that much worse than Biden was? Or, do you think there's more to it than stimulus plans in a pandemic. Because I don't think you or anyone else is ready to say that GWB was exponentially worse than Brandon.


2) Because the average person is a moron. People vote against their best interests all the time. It's like going into rural Mississippi and asking some guy why he votes for lowering government entitlements yet he benefits way more from them than some downtown New Yorker. The average person will always look at it through their own personal situation because of the access to easily digestible media that will affirm their beliefs. If you're seeing your wages increase at a lower rate than the costs of groceries and Mr. TV Man is telling you it's because of stimulus spending from the guy you hate you're going to believe that. A simple example is why you see Joe Commonman fight to pay off his mortgage early at low interest rates while not realizing the opportunity costs of it.

3) Why didn't fiscal conservatives vote for Al Gore? He oversaw a booming economy as VP? Surely they would have been principled enough to want to continue the good times. But they didn't, because there is no such thing as a principled fiscal conservative. Hilariously Trump was worse than Obama at the 36 month mark, remember when we walked through those results? He under performed all other presidents except GW. Trump is a banner winner for the Republican party, but that is only because of how horrible HW GW were. Clinton clowned Reagan in terms of stock market performance, even Obama finished with a higher return than Reagan at the 8 year mark.

 

Blazers46

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Settle it the way real men settle shit.

1v1 on Rust
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or Lockout if Halo is more your persuasion.
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For 40 and overs…

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drayer54

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Feinstein could be replaced now, but they'd have to replace her on the Judiciary Committee, and there is no way that gets done. Republicans will stall the shit out of that, so Democrats are going to play Weekend at Bernie's and prop Feinstein up for Judiciary votes.

It's stupid and dysfunctional, but that's Federal Government right now.
I think they call this party over country.

Same here.
 

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Irish#1

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At one point, year-over-year inflation had reached 9.1%, the highest rate of price increases for goods and services since the early 1980s.

But overall, prices for some goods and services have steadily increased over the course of the pandemic years. The evidence was front and center, as seen in the price of eggs, ground beef, gasoline, used cars, electricity and rent.

And while economists say the prices of some goods and services have started to retreat from their post-pandemic highs, the U.S. is unlikely to return to pre-pandemic price levels — what some may think of as "normal" prices — any time soon.

 

Polish Leppy 22

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1) Alright, take a look and tell me if you still believe that inflation is not a global indicator. The US led the G7 for a longer period than Biden did from 2004 to 2008 with the highest inflation rate of the group. Does this mean that Bush was that much worse than Biden was? Or, do you think there's more to it than stimulus plans in a pandemic. Because I don't think you or anyone else is ready to say that GWB was exponentially worse than Brandon.


2) Because the average person is a moron. People vote against their best interests all the time. It's like going into rural Mississippi and asking some guy why he votes for lowering government entitlements yet he benefits way more from them than some downtown New Yorker. The average person will always look at it through their own personal situation because of the access to easily digestible media that will affirm their beliefs. If you're seeing your wages increase at a lower rate than the costs of groceries and Mr. TV Man is telling you it's because of stimulus spending from the guy you hate you're going to believe that. A simple example is why you see Joe Commonman fight to pay off his mortgage early at low interest rates while not realizing the opportunity costs of it.

3) Why didn't fiscal conservatives vote for Al Gore? He oversaw a booming economy as VP? Surely they would have been principled enough to want to continue the good times. But they didn't, because there is no such thing as a principled fiscal conservative. Hilariously Trump was worse than Obama at the 36 month mark, remember when we walked through those results? He under performed all other presidents except GW. Trump is a banner winner for the Republican party, but that is only because of how horrible HW GW were. Clinton clowned Reagan in terms of stock market performance, even Obama finished with a higher return than Reagan at the 8 year mark.

1) If you can't connect the dots between insane federal borrowing/ spending and 40 year high of inflation, it's a you problem. I've done my part.

2) You might think you're the smartest guy in the room, but calling the average person a moron doesn't strengthen your point.

3) You conveniently blocked out Carter to Reagan, which tells me all I need to know. Good day.
 

TorontoGold

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1) If you can't connect the dots between insane federal borrowing/ spending and 40 year high of inflation, it's a you problem. I've done my part.

2) You might think you're the smartest guy in the room, but calling the average person a moron doesn't strengthen your point.

3) You conveniently blocked out Carter to Reagan, which tells me all I need to know. Good day.
1) There it is, "dude trust me" the undefeated logic and reasoning. Biden is worse than Bush because "dude trust me", Biden is doing a bad job despite lowest inflation rate in the G7 because "dude trust me".

2) Depends on who's in the room. I should just use anecdotal evidence and "dude trust me" and maybe I'll be able to have a solid point. Sad.

3) Ok - go back to Reagan then. He took over from Carter and had better performance. Never hid from that. Obama and Clinton both had better performances than Reagan. How's that? Were you told anything new? If Reagan did slightly worse than Obama, where are all the jerk off sessions for what Barry did? Surely those very principled fiscal conservatives would be big fans of Obama.
 

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1) There it is, "dude trust me" the undefeated logic and reasoning. Biden is worse than Bush because "dude trust me", Biden is doing a bad job despite lowest inflation rate in the G7 because "dude trust me".

2) Depends on who's in the room. I should just use anecdotal evidence and "dude trust me" and maybe I'll be able to have a solid point. Sad.

3) Ok - go back to Reagan then. He took over from Carter and had better performance. Never hid from that. Obama and Clinton both had better performances than Reagan. How's that? Were you told anything new? If Reagan did slightly worse than Obama, where are all the jerk off sessions for what Barry did? Surely those very principled fiscal conservatives would be big fans of Obama.
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Polish Leppy 22

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1) There it is, "dude trust me" the undefeated logic and reasoning. Biden is worse than Bush because "dude trust me", Biden is doing a bad job despite lowest inflation rate in the G7 because "dude trust me".

2) Depends on who's in the room. I should just use anecdotal evidence and "dude trust me" and maybe I'll be able to have a solid point. Sad.

3) Ok - go back to Reagan then. He took over from Carter and had better performance. Never hid from that. Obama and Clinton both had better performances than Reagan. How's that? Were you told anything new? If Reagan did slightly worse than Obama, where are all the jerk off sessions for what Barry did? Surely those very principled fiscal conservatives would be big fans of Obama.
1) I laid it out for you. It's a you problem now. The 40 year high inflation rates are directly correlated to Biden's policies.

2) The majority of Americans are not happy with $5 dozen eggs and $4 gallon gas. The polls reflect that. You can just continue insulting the general public.

3) You absolutely hid from Carter that until I called you out on it. If we were to gobble up your narrative, Dem presidents who brought high inflation simply had bad luck OR it was due to the global economy. And all Republican presidents are completely incompetent with economic policy. The history and numbers don't support this.

You've turned into the new Buster. You'd rather argue with me for days rather than accept something for what it is.
 

Armyirish47

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Eggs by the dozen in the (egg) salad days of April 2018 were 2.081.
Eggs by the dozen in the thunderdomecatasphrophiceconopocalypse of 2023 in July were.......2.094.

This has been your latest installment of FUN! WITH! NUMBERS!!!!!!
 

TorontoGold

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1) I laid it out for you. It's a you problem now. The 40 year high inflation rates are directly correlated to Biden's policies.

2) The majority of Americans are not happy with $5 dozen eggs and $4 gallon gas. The polls reflect that. You can just continue insulting the general public.

3) You absolutely hid from Carter that until I called you out on it. If we were to gobble up your narrative, Dem presidents who brought high inflation simply had bad luck OR it was due to the global economy. And all Republican presidents are completely incompetent with economic policy. The history and numbers don't support this.

You've turned into the new Buster. You'd rather argue with me for days rather than accept something for what it is.
1) Except you didn't lol. You provided no causal links between Biden's policies and inflation.

2) Wild people don't like paying more for something they previously paid less for. I do like how in this instance public opinion polls are kryptonite against data, but for anything else polls smolls.

3) Lol ok buddy. Since you love inflation as the ultimate economic indicator lets measure that up with GDP (you know, the one that most people like as measuring an economy's performance). Well, real GDP growth rate by president and what do we have here. Is real GDP growth rate a narrative? Please note that Ronald Reagan is on here, and yes he had a higher real GDP growth rate than Carter/Biden/Obama.

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Eggs by the dozen in the (egg) salad days of April 2018 were 2.081.
Eggs by the dozen in the thunderdomecatasphrophiceconopocalypse of 2023 in July were.......2.094.

This has been your latest installment of FUN! WITH! NUMBERS!!!!!!
MORE FUN WITH NUMBERS!!!!!

BananasOrangesBreadTomatoesChickenElectricity Per kwhGasolineGround ChuckUtility GasMilk
Apr-180.5781.2911.2811.8021.5110.1342.7373.7751.0442.924
Jul-230.6311.5911.981.8961.8910.1693.7325.2531.3953.971
% Change
9.17%​
23.24%​
54.57%​
5.22%​
25.15%​
26.12%​
36.35%​
39.15%​
33.62%​
35.81%​
 
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Armyirish47

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MORE FUN WITH NUMBERS!!!!!

BananasOrangesBreadTomatoesChickenElectricity Per kwhGasolineGround ChuckUtility GasMilk
Apr-180.5781.2911.2811.8021.5110.1342.7373.7751.0442.924
Jul-230.6311.5911.981.8961.8910.1693.7325.2531.3953.971
% Change
9.17%​
23.24%​
54.57%​
5.22%​
25.15%​
26.12%​
36.35%​
39.15%​
33.62%​
35.81%​


Now you're getting it!
 

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I’d take Grassley today over several others. He’s old, but still sharp. The rest should step down, but won’t because politics.
 
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