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[TorontoGold]

1) You're distorting. The numbers I posted reflected the American economy and American economic policy, not the global economy.

2) It's absolutely a guess. You and I have no clue what would have changed in our economy if Gore won in 2000 or Hillary won in 2016.

3) You're either missing my point or purposely changing topics. In one post you completely disregard polling on how Americans view Biden economic policy, then you tell us you know how Gore and Hillary would have performed had they won. And the vortex continues to vortex.

1) How is that distorting? Inflation is directly impacted by the global economy.

2) You've missed the point - entirely. I'm saying that in the 2000 election, people that called themselves a single issue voter for economics should have voted for Gore because of the success of Clinton. This is based on data from BEFORE the election. No guessing here.

3) I never made any guesses on how Gore or Hillary would have done, point out where I said that. I can't be any clearer - If a voter in the year 2000 or 2016 was a single issue economy voter they should have voted for Gore and Hillary PLEASE NOTE: I am not projecting any future results. Maybe you'll get it this time?

Awww, someone mistook you for gay, so sad. I can tell that triggered you and your lack of life skills.

Yes I am the one who lacks life skills sure thing buddy lol.

 

[Irish#1]

Inflation is under 3%. Twice as good as you thought and improving. I assume you’d rather it was increasing instead of decreasing? Either that or it’s you who are disregarding economic data.

US Inflation Rate (Monthly) - United States - Historical Da…

View monthly updates and historical trends for US Inflation Rate. from United States. Source: Bureau of Labor Statistics. Track economic data with YCharts…

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This is great. The problem is it's under 3% now, but It just means the high prices aren't accelerating as fast as they were. Inflation was higher causing it gas, food and other prices to go way up and there's no sign that they are going back down anytime soon.

 

[ulukinatme]

This is great. The problem is it's under 3% now, but It just means the high prices aren't accelerating as fast as they were. Inflation was higher causing it gas, food and other prices to go way up and there's no sign that they are going back down anytime soon.

They're not going to ever go back down, not like they were. The people that get hurt the most are the lower class and lower middle class. Those people will have increased their income by little or nothing in the last few years while prices have increased greatly. They're not able to weather the storm, and we're going to see a lot of people go into debt by large margins.

 

[jprue24]

They're not going to ever go back down, not like they were. The people that get hurt the most are the lower class and lower middle class. Those people will have increased their income by little or nothing in the last few years while prices have increased greatly. They're not able to weather the storm, and we're going to see a lot of people go into debt by large margins.

I agree. Raise the minimum wage with inflation.

 

[jprue24]

You guys are SO close.

 

[TorontoGold]

You guys are SO close.

We're like one post away from "Well, if only Joe Biden took a harder stance on corporations who engage in price fixing, offshoring of profits, and stronger stance on collective bargaining people would be better off".

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

1) How is that distorting? Inflation is directly impacted by the global economy.

2) You've missed the point - entirely. I'm saying that in the 2000 election, people that called themselves a single issue voter for economics should have voted for Gore because of the success of Clinton. This is based on data from BEFORE the election. No guessing here.

3) I never made any guesses on how Gore or Hillary would have done, point out where I said that. I can't be any clearer - If a voter in the year 2000 or 2016 was a single issue economy voter they should have voted for Gore and Hillary PLEASE NOTE: I am not projecting any future results. Maybe you'll get it this time?



Yes I am the one who lacks life skills sure thing buddy lol.

1) We aren't talking about the global economy, atleast not in this discussion. We're talking about the US economy, and my original point was that the 40 year inflation highs (for your US history, that was under Jimmy Carter, a Democrat) and record breaking gas prices are directly tied to Biden's policies.

2) You say they should have. Guessing. Entirely speculative. I wonder how many voters in 2020 would still have gone Biden if they knew in 2021 gas would be $5/ gallon and a dozen eggs would be $5.

3) This is entirely opinion, and you're free to share it. It's not Gospel.

 

[Irish#1]

They're not going to ever go back down, not like they were. The people that get hurt the most are the lower class and lower middle class. Those people will have increased their income by little or nothing in the last few years while prices have increased greatly. They're not able to weather the storm, and we're going to see a lot of people go into debt by large margins.

Just saw that credit card debt is at an all time high. Something like a trillion.

 

[TorontoGold]

1) We aren't talking about the global economy, atleast not in this discussion. We're talking about the US economy, and my original point was that the 40 year inflation highs (for your US history, that was under Jimmy Carter, a Democrat) and record breaking gas prices are directly tied to Biden's policies.

2) You say they should have. Guessing. Entirely speculative. I wonder how many voters in 2020 would still have gone Biden if they knew in 2021 gas would be $5/ gallon and a dozen eggs would be $5.

3) This is entirely opinion, and you're free to share it. It's not Gospel.

1) How do you think prices are decided on? Where do the products come from that are sold in the stores? Unless you live in a hippie commune you are part of the global economy. Inflation rates in the 70s were incredibly high in every developed country as well lol To say Bidens policies are directly tied to inflation without hard evidence, well that's something.

2) Ok, so that's like saying "I like money" and when given the choice between 100 or 50 dollars that person takes 50 dollars. That person has demonstrated they do not value money. Just like any person that calls themselves fiscally conservative who votes against their claimed interest is not actually fiscally conservative. If you are fiscally conservative you should vote for the democrats because they are a historically centrist/conservative party who have had better economic policies.

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[Irish#1]

Even though they haven't said specifically what happened, it's apparent she had a stroke.

 

[drayer54]

Even though they haven't said specifically what happened, it's apparent she had a stroke.

Her and Fetterman on the same committee is about as productive as we could get.

 

[Blazers46]

Just saw that credit card debt is at an all time high. Something like a trillion.

But all we need to do is raise the min wage. 🙄

I have a job now where I am privy to salaries and credit reports of federal employees. It’s amazing how in debt employees are that have positions in places like the federal reserve making $150k and above. No matter what you pay people debt will find anyone these days.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Turnout comes to about 3.1 million. Their 2014 midterm was 3.15

Ballot measures in Florida, Missouri and Arizona next?

 

[GoIrish41]

Turnout comes to about 3.1 million. Their 2014 midterm was 3.15

Ballot measures in Florida, Missouri and Arizona next?

What is Issue 1?

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

What is Issue 1?

In a win for abortion-rights supporters, Ohio voters reject Issue 1

Ohioans voted down a proposal that would have made it harder to pass future proposed constitutional amendments in the state, including one in November about abortion rights.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[GATTACA!]

What is Issue 1?

Essentially republicans wanted to sneak in a summer vote when they thought less people would be paying attention so they could change the rules because they know they are going to lose the abortion vote in Ohio.

I don’t really have a strong opinion on the abortion issue one way or the other, but that’s some bitch shit. Like a little kid that’s losing a game so they try to change the rules.

 

[Blazers46]

Essentially republicans wanted to sneak in a summer vote when they thought less people would be paying attention so they could change the rules because they know they are going to lose the abortion vote in Ohio.

I don’t really have a strong opinion on the abortion issue one way or the other, but that’s some bitch shit. Like a little kid that’s losing a game so they try to change the rules.

Isn’t that just called politics in 2023?

 

[Irish#1]

At her age there is no such thing as a minor fall.

Dianne Feinstein went to the hospital after a 'minor fall' at home, spokesperson says

Feinstein fell Tuesday. "All of her scans were clear and she returned home," the senator's office said, adding that her hospital visit lasted about two hours.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[Irish#1]

Having to be told how to vote is not good for anyone.

Sen. Dianne Feinstein told to 'just say aye' in awkward Senate committee moment

Feinstein, 90, began delivering a speech in support of a bill during a vote Thursday, instead of the expected response of "aye" or "nay."

www.nbcnews.com

 

[ulukinatme]

Republicans rarely show up in numbers for special elections here. Ohio had half the total votes yesterday that they had in the 2020 election, and a number of suburbs look to have voted blue that were red for the presidential election. Ironic that they framed the issue as protecting Ohio from special interest groups sneaking changes into special elections, and they couldn't sneak their own in. I don't care for super majority required voting personally. Ohio remains slightly conservative leaning, but only by a slim margin. If they required a 60% vote for amendments I'm not sure much would get done, much like Washington.

 

[GATTACA!]

Republicans rarely show up in numbers for special elections here. Ohio had half the total votes yesterday that they had in the 2020 election, and a number of suburbs look to have voted blue that were red for the presidential election. Ironic that they framed the issue as protecting Ohio from special interest groups sneaking changes into special elections, and they couldn't sneak their own in. I don't care for super majority required voting personally. Ohio remains slightly conservative leaning, but only by a slim margin. If they required a 60% vote for amendments I'm not sure much would get done, much like Washington.

It's just funny to me that overturning Roe was framed as returning the issue to the states. Fine let's vote on it then.

"No no no! Not like that!!"

 

[GoIrish41]

Essentially republicans wanted to sneak in a summer vote when they thought less people would be paying attention so they could change the rules because they know they are going to lose the abortion vote in Ohio.

I don’t really have a strong opinion on the abortion issue one way or the other, but that’s some bitch shit. Like a little kid that’s losing a game so they try to change the rules.

The GOP is the “some bitch shit” party

 

[ulukinatme]

Signs have all pointed to Ohio likely passing abortion protections and/or removing restrictions in November. Suffolk polls showed support even before Roe v Wade was overturned. Yesterday shouldn't have been a surprise to anyone. The question might be if there are any restrictions on said abortions. Currently they're legal up to 22 weeks.

 

[Blazers46]

The GOP is the “some bitch shit” party

What will them bitches do next, eliminate the electoral college or some other bitch ass rule change shit?

 

[GATTACA!]

What will them bitches do next, eliminate the electoral college or some other bitch ass rule change shit?

If they could they would lol.

 

[Blazers46]

If they could they would lol.

Voting is overrated, decide things over a few rounds of duck duck goose or rock paper scissor.

 

[GATTACA!]

Voting is overrated, decide things over a few rounds of duck duck goose or rock paper scissor.

Settle it the way real men settle shit.

1v1 on Rust

or Lockout if Halo is more your persuasion.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Feinstein could be replaced now, but they'd have to replace her on the Judiciary Committee, and there is no way that gets done. Republicans will stall the shit out of that, so Democrats are going to play Weekend at Bernie's and prop Feinstein up for Judiciary votes.

It's stupid and dysfunctional, but that's Federal Government right now.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

1) How do you think prices are decided on? Where do the products come from that are sold in the stores? Unless you live in a hippie commune you are part of the global economy. Inflation rates in the 70s were incredibly high in every developed country as well lol To say Bidens policies are directly tied to inflation without hard evidence, well that's something.

2) Ok, so that's like saying "I like money" and when given the choice between 100 or 50 dollars that person takes 50 dollars. That person has demonstrated they do not value money. Just like any person that calls themselves fiscally conservative who votes against their claimed interest is not actually fiscally conservative. If you are fiscally conservative you should vote for the democrats because they are a historically centrist/conservative party who have had better economic policies.

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1) You're painting a picture as though the whole world is one big commune and every country has the same economic policy and same inflation rates. It's inaccurate, and you're smart enough to know it. Take 15 seconds and pull up inflation rates for every country in the past 2 years. The hard evidence is that our typical 2-3 percent inflation rate jumped to 8 PERCENT the same year Biden passed the $2 trillion "American Rescue Plan."

2) No, you're making this far more complicated than it is. If all Biden voters knew in 2020 what things would be like now, many wouldn't have voted for him. Current polls show us the majority of Americans disapprove of his economic policies.

3) Fiscal conservatives voted for Reagan because of the Carter disaster. Fiscal conservatives voted for Trump because of his economic plans (and because Hillary was a terrible candidate), and things were pretty strong in the US until Covid hit.