2023 Fall Camp

[Irishdrunk]

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A shot at 10-2? Hartman alone should set that as the bar, then any development and coaching improvements should only increase that. We should have went 10-2 last year

But I agree we development is crucial to fight for 10-2 or better vs truly passing the championship caliber eye test

Um we will likely not favored in 3 games. USC at home is winnable. OSU at home and Clemson in Death Valley will be very hard to win.

DL and lack of prior production in WR is an issue.

HC is on 2nd year and OC in first year. That is why I see improvement to 9-3. You want 10-2?? Get me 5 stars and a highly successful and experienced coaching staff. Not hiring Ludwig hurts. Freeman should have the staff he wants right out of the gate but I am sure Savvy Jack came up with the slogan “Choose Hard” when he told MF he didn’t like Ludwig’s Buyout……

 

[Terry Jillery]

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Um we will likely not favored in 3 games. USC at home is winnable. OSU at home and Clemson in Death Valley will be very hard to win.

DL and lack of prior production in WR is an issue.

HC is on 2nd year and OC in first year. That is why I see improvement to 9-3. You want 10-2?? Get me 5 stars and a highly successful and experienced coaching staff. Not hiring Ludwig hurts. Freeman should have the staff he wants right out of the gate but I am sure Savvy Jack came up with the slogan “Choose Hard” when he told MF he didn’t like Ludwig’s Buyout……

Many say 11-1. I am feeling 12-0 is completely possible. USC scares me the most. We have the only great QB in every other game. Clemson and Ohio State QB’s could be horrible for all we know. Our offense is going to be very hard to stop. Agree that anything like 9-3 falls squarely on coaches. Special teams worries me since we lost such a great coach for someone I know nothing about.

 

[arrowryan]

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Um we will likely not favored in 3 games. USC at home is winnable. OSU at home and Clemson in Death Valley will be very hard to win.

DL and lack of prior production in WR is an issue.

HC is on 2nd year and OC in first year. That is why I see improvement to 9-3. You want 10-2?? Get me 5 stars and a highly successful and experienced coaching staff. Not hiring Ludwig hurts. Freeman should have the staff he wants right out of the gate but I am sure Savvy Jack came up with the slogan “Choose Hard” when he told MF he didn’t like Ludwig’s Buyout……

It’s kinda funny how some fans think not getting Ludwig was some big loss, when none of us had even heard of the guy until we learned he was interviewing for the job.

I’ll take lack of previous production at receiver than lack of production at QB, which was what OSU, Alabama, and Georgia are experiencing.

9-3 should be the floor. 10-2 seems likely.

 

[FWIrish4]

What a feeling knowing we can complete tough throws like this now. I know Kizer was good, but Clausen was really the last QB that could throw into windows like this consistently.

Looks like a cover 2 fade which requires great timing and ball placement by the QB. Has to be on a line to hit the gap where the corner drops off and before the safety gets over the top. Cherry on top with Thomas having elite body control there with the toe tap and catching through the ground as hart hits him.

I’m fired up. We haven’t been able to do this on offense in awhile (maybe Book/Claypool/Boykin?).

 

[Irishdrunk]

It’s kinda funny how some fans think not getting Ludwig was some big loss, when none of us had even heard of the guy until we learned he was interviewing for the job.

I’ll take lack of previous production at receiver than lack of production at QB, which was what OSU, Alabama, and Georgia are experiencing.

9-3 should be the floor. 10-2 seems likely.

Ludwig was MF’s top target for good reasons. Who cares what so-called fans think.

 

[irishandy]

10-2 should be a no brainer with Hartman, our WR's will benefit having a QB like Hartman. I think ND can win 1-2 of their big games.

If ND didn't have a QB like Hartman, our offense & Parker would have some learning curves. This board needs to give Parker a chance.

 

[GrangerIrish24]

Ludwig was MF’s top target for good reasons. Who cares what so-called fans think.

That wasn’t his top target.

 

[SeekNDestroy]

That wasn’t his top target.

Out of curiosity; who was the top target?

 

[PutuporShutup]

Out of curiosity; who was the top target?

Ryan day, hartline, Lincoln Riley, Monken to name a few lol

 

[IRISHDODGER]

Many say 11-1. I am feeling 12-0 is completely possible. USC scares me the most. We have the only great QB in every other game. Clemson and Ohio State QB’s could be horrible for all we know. Our offense is going to be very hard to stop. Agree that anything like 9-3 falls squarely on coaches. Special teams worries me since we lost such a great coach for someone I know nothing about.

I think fans are purely focusing on fact that OSU is breaking in a new QB and overlooking the more important fact that OSU has a more talented roster than ND. Doesn’t mean ND can’t/won’t win but their DL is highly regarded and I’ll take a dominant DL over a dominant OL any day.

 

[Crazy Balki]

I think fans are purely focusing on fact that OSU is breaking in a new QB and overlooking the more important fact that OSU has a more talented roster than ND. Doesn’t mean ND can’t/won’t win but their DL is highly regarded and I’ll take a dominant DL over a dominant OL any day.

I saw that same dominant DL go up against a dominant OL in Michigan and got absolutely steamrolled.

 

[IRISHDODGER]

I saw that same dominant DL go up against a dominant OL in Michigan and got absolutely steamrolled.

And ND got owned by Marshall & Stanford at the LOS. Point is it’s a new year for both teams so as much as I’m confident ND has evolved past laying eggs like the aforementioned losses, I’m confident OSU will not be easy to run on by the Irish.

 

[benneboy]

I think fans are purely focusing on fact that OSU is breaking in a new QB and overlooking the more important fact that OSU has a more talented roster than ND. Doesn’t mean ND can’t/won’t win but their DL is highly regarded and I’ll take a dominant DL over a dominant OL any day.

QB is by far the most important position. And I don't know that OSU is more talented overall. Give the edge to ND at Qb, OL, CB. OSU at Wr and Dline, probably safety as well but they don't have any standouts either. LB, RB are washes.

 

[Reaper97]

And ND got owned by Marshall & Stanford at the LOS. Point is it’s a new year for both teams so as much as I’m confident ND has evolved past laying eggs like the aforementioned losses, I’m confident OSU will not be easy to run on by the Irish.

Stanford didn’t own ND at the LOS.
They had 8 guys in the box and the play calling was bad & the execution even worse.

 

[Crazy Balki]

Stanford didn’t own ND at the LOS.
They had 8 guys in the box and the play calling was bad & the execution even worse.

Yep.

Stanford stacked the line and dared Drew Pyne to beat them with his arm. Drew Pyne responded with easily one of the worst performances by a ND QB in years. Didn't help that ND couldn't recover a fumble to save their lives that game. Virtually every ball that hit the ground would end up in Stanford's hands.

 

[IrishLax]

Stanford didn’t own ND at the LOS.
They had 8 guys in the box and the play calling was bad & the execution even worse.

It's worse than that, they would crowd the box and then do drop 7 or drop 8 zone virtually every down. They dared Drew Pyne to read the defense and deliver the ball in windows and he couldn't. ND moved the ball with ease when they ran it towards the end of the game but then Estime fumbled and that was that.

 

[Reaper97]

It's worse than that, they would crowd the box and then do drop 7 or drop 8 zone virtually every down. They dared Drew Pyne to read the defense and deliver the ball in windows and he couldn't. ND moved the ball with ease when they ran it towards the end of the game but then Estime fumbled and that was that.

Can you imagine if that Estime fumble, and losing to a horrible Stanford team at home, is the thing that prohibits ND from having like 15 straight 10 win seasons if Freeman is the guy we hope (having BK doing 5 in a row before he left).

 

[IA4irish]

It's worse than that, they would crowd the box and then do drop 7 or drop 8 zone virtually every down. They dared Drew Pyne to read the defense and deliver the ball in windows and he couldn't. ND moved the ball with ease when they ran it towards the end of the game but then Estime fumbled and that was that.

every couple of years I do a work trip in October. The last two I’ve gone on landed on the weekends of Michigan in 2019 and Stanford last year. Two of the worst losses in the last ten years. This year it’s on a bye week. You’re welcome

 

[arrowryan]

It's worse than that, they would crowd the box and then do drop 7 or drop 8 zone virtually every down. They dared Drew Pyne to read the defense and deliver the ball in windows and he couldn't. ND moved the ball with ease when they ran it towards the end of the game but then Estime fumbled and that was that.

And the Stanford QB fumble recovered by ND that was mysteriously overturned

 

[Domina Nostra]

Obviously the PG arms comment was made in jest, but this is a guy that looked like a 255 lb edge rusher last year, not a bookend left tackle. The above picture I referenced, it was clear he added some bulk.

I was joking back. Tooling like a DE is a perfect description.

 

[Reaper97]

Saw a picture of the food at ND.

Saw steak, mushrooms, peppers, corn on the cob, all grilled.

Not microwave food like Michigan.

 

[arrowryan]

Saw a picture of the food at ND.

Saw steak, mushrooms, peppers, corn on the cob, all grilled.

Not microwave food like Michigan.

The recruits had a grilling competition. The coaches were the judges.

 

[Reaper97]

The recruits had a grilling competition. The coaches were the judges.

I don’t care if it tasted like a baby’s dirty diaper, they better have ruled Ivan Taylor the winner…

 

[dublinirish]

Was the Trump administration hosting this?


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[IrishBoognish]

I guarantee there's raisins in the potato salad just out of frame.

 

[WilliamWallace]

Was the Trump administration hosting this?


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No way in hell I’d be hosting a big time event without the smokers rolling coal!!!

 

[IA4irish]

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That food actually looks fake

 

[WilliamWallace]

Not even a steamed bun!

 

[Terry Jillery]

I think fans are purely focusing on fact that OSU is breaking in a new QB and overlooking the more important fact that OSU has a more talented roster than ND. Doesn’t mean ND can’t/won’t win but their DL is highly regarded and I’ll take a dominant DL over a dominant OL any day.

Good point. I don’t think any DL in the country is beating Alt at much of anything but the rest of the line idk.

 

[WilliamWallace]

I think fans are purely focusing on fact that OSU is breaking in a new QB and overlooking the more important fact that OSU has a more talented roster than ND. Doesn’t mean ND can’t/won’t win but their DL is highly regarded and I’ll take a dominant DL over a dominant OL any day.

They were highly regarded last year as well and it didn’t help them much. We were a QB away from having a good game if not a win. Now they’re in the same boat and we will field a good defense. You don’t want a new QB going against what’s shaping up in our DB room.