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INLaw said:
Yeah that is the only place I saw it. That guy has been pretty spot on but just crickets anywhere else
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I mean I'd hope the Ukranians would maintain an information blackout.

In other news, the Russians leaned on HIV positive prisoners to sign up for the war by withholding meds (sure death I. Prison vs maybe die with Wagner). 20% of prison soldiers are HIV positive.

Given the lack of sterility in hospitals and cramped conditions/blood splatter the Russians might just spark an HIV and Tubercolosis outbreak in their veterans of this war.

Real smart Vlad

‘A Quick Death or a Slow Death’: Prisoners Choose War to Get Lifesaving Drugs ‘A Quick Death or a Slow Death’: Prisoners Choose War to Get Lifesaving Drugs
 
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Would seem out of character for Ukraine to do that, given their actions so far have been more defensive than offensive and their offensive moves have pretty much been contained to retaking their own land or destroying fuel and weapon depots.
 
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2 drones flew above the Kremlin but there's no evidence of Ukrainian involvement, CNN analysis shows​

From CNN’s Allegra Goodwin, Gianluca Mezzofiore, Katie Polglase, Sebastian Shukla, Anna Chernova and Paul P. Murphy

The Kremlin has yet to present physical evidence supporting the Russian government’s claim Wednesday that it foiled an attempt by Ukraine on President Vladimir Putin’s life with a drone attack, although videos have surfaced that purport to show the attack — including what appears to be the shooting down of a drone — and its aftermath.
CNN analysis of video showing the incident supports the Kremlin’s claim that two drones were flown above the Kremlin early Wednesday, but CNN found no evidence of Ukrainian involvement.
Here's what CNN knows so far about how events unfolded: A video that appeared to show smoke rising from the Kremlin, which was geolocated by CNN, surfaced on a local neighborhood Telegram channel at 2:37 a.m. local time Wednesday. The first reports of the incident citing the Kremlin came via Russian state media TASS and RIA around 2.33 p.m. local time — around 12 hours later.
Shortly after the first media reports, another video appearing to show the moment a drone exploded above the Kremlin began circulating widely on social media. In the video, the drone appears to fly toward the building’s domed roof, followed by what looks like a small explosion. In this video, two people appear to be climbing on the dome holding flashlights and can be seen ducking down just before the moment of the explosion. The people climbing the drone are not present in the first of these videos, but appear in the second, suggesting they were responding to the fire caused by the first drone at the time the subsequent drone appeared.
CNN has analyzed videos shared by the Russian state-run channel TVC that appear to show there were two separate drones from different directions within minutes of each another, based on the times displayed on the nearby Spasskaya tower clock. The first drone was spotted over the Kremlin at 2:27 a.m. local time. It exploded over the Senate Palace, after which a fire broke out on its roof. The second drone was recorded at 2:43 a.m., and its fragments fell on the territory of the Kremlin. While the first drone caused a fire at the top of the dome, the second didn’t, appearing instead to explode in the air.
Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov did not mention the incident Wednesday during a routine weekday call with reporters at around 12:30 p.m. local time, roughly two hours before media reports emerged.
Ukraine has denied any responsibility for the alleged attack, with Ukrainian presidential adviser Mykhailo Podolyak telling CNN that Ukraine has "nothing to do with drone attacks on [the] Kremlin."
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GowerND11 said:
Yeah, this is so weak. Guys on the roof at 3 AM just watching it? Small explosion like it was an M80. Propaganda/false flag if I ever saw it. And not a good one either.
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I just now noticed those guys on the roof. Fire watch for sure.
 
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www.politico.com

Russia Has a Vodka Addiction. So Does Vladimir Putin – But Not the Same Way.

The Russian leader is famously sober. There’s a reason that his country isn’t.
www.politico.com www.politico.com

This is an interesting look at why Russia is known for Vodka, how Putin consolidated power. And how he sabatoged efforts to improve Russia's alcoholism problem.

It still flabbergasts me that some corners of the populist right hold up Putin/Russia as vanguards of Western/Christian civilization. If there's a country that highlights elite decadence/indifference to the general population it's Russia.
 
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PerthDomer said:
www.politico.com

Russia Has a Vodka Addiction. So Does Vladimir Putin – But Not the Same Way.

The Russian leader is famously sober. There’s a reason that his country isn’t.
www.politico.com www.politico.com

This is an interesting look at why Russia is known for Vodka, how Putin consolidated power. And how he sabatoged efforts to improve Russia's alcoholism problem.

It still flabbergasts me that some corners of the populist right hold up Putin/Russia as vanguards of Western/Christian civilization. If there's a country that highlights elite decadence/indifference to the general population it's Russia.
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Especially considering that Putin and Russia want to minimize western influence in his country...
 
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PerthDomer said:
www.politico.com

Russia Has a Vodka Addiction. So Does Vladimir Putin – But Not the Same Way.

The Russian leader is famously sober. There’s a reason that his country isn’t.
www.politico.com www.politico.com

This is an interesting look at why Russia is known for Vodka, how Putin consolidated power. And how he sabatoged efforts to improve Russia's alcoholism problem.

It still flabbergasts me that some corners of the populist right hold up Putin/Russia as vanguards of Western/Christian civilization. If there's a country that highlights elite decadence/indifference to the general population it's Russia.
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It might not be the old fashion Stalin type communism, but it's Putin's form.
 
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It's a dictatorahip now.

It resonates with the people because he is 'trying to make Russia an important world power again and he wants to keep the depravity of the west out'.
 
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INLaw said:
It’s probably best he takes what is left of his PMC to Moscow to make sure Putin hears his message.
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Could it be that Putin is withholding ammo because he's afraid that if Prigozhin has success, he might have a rival for his presidency?
 
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Cackalacky2.0 said:
Any chance he tries to challenge Putin for control ?
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I got no idea what the drunk ivan dragos do. But i am totally here for it. I say if he is half as pissed at Shoigu as he claims to be, he should take what’s left of his armed prisoners nab him up and feed him bare chested to a tiger.
 
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