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  • Obama

    Votes: 4 1.1%
  • Romney

    Votes: 172 48.9%
  • Other

    Votes: 46 13.1%
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    Votes: 130 36.9%

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ab2cmiller

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It seems to be photoshopped. Unless the individual screenshot it before he deleted it.

I'm leaning towards it being fake. If real, huge Trump L... but it wasn't on his account today or the past several days (first time I ever googled his truth account lol).
I did some searching on Twitter and nobody confirmed that it was true. Did a Twitter search and couldn’t find very many references to the supposed post at all.
 

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Alexa….which party ran actual Nazis in recent elections?
George Wallace was complicated! He wasn't thattttttttttttt bad! Wait, he was a Democrat? Fuck man, he was SATAN incarnate and totally the worst guy ever!

(Of course nobody has ever defended him except the commissioner of facts and logic)
 

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You continue to conveniently ignore the undisputed fact that hate groups like the Klan, in the year 2023 and for the last 50 something years, have been made up entirely of Republican voters (if they even vote.)
The Klan is a marginalized, powerless, pale shadow of what they were decades ago. Nobody pays any attention to them and they have little to no ability to affect anything today. Nobody gives a flip about a handful of nutty, powerless racists today. We're talking about the Klan when it controlled state houses, sheriff departments, city councils, governor's mansions, and etc. from the 1860's through the 1960's. You know, your people... democrats.
 

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George Wallace was complicated! He wasn't thattttttttttttt bad! Wait, he was a Democrat? Fuck man, he was SATAN incarnate and totally the worst guy ever!

(Of course nobody has ever defended him except the commissioner of facts and logic)
You should learn the difference in meaning between the words "defend" and "explain." Either that, or stop intentionally misrepresenting what others say. I understand why you do it and why you have to, though. Carry on!
 

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The Klan is a marginalized, powerless, pale shadow of what they were decades ago. Nobody pays any attention to them and they have little to no ability to affect anything today. Nobody gives a flip about a handful of nutty, powerless racists today. We're talking about the Klan when it controlled state houses, sheriff departments, city councils, governor's mansions, and etc. from the 1860's through the 1960's. You know, your people... democrats.
Let me know when you’re gonna stop moving the goalposts.
 

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I was kidding….. it’s parody.
Cack wasn't kidding. He either 1) fell for a photoshopped post, or 2) intentionally lied about it. Even after being asked about authenticity.

The one thing he wasn't doing, was kidding. Someone explicitly asked. He said it was Trump's account. Only after someone said they looked and could not locate any info about it did he claim he was just playing around.
 
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Cack wasn't kidding. He either 1) fell for a photoshopped post, or 2) intentionally lied about it. Even after being asked about authenticity.

The one thing he wasn't doing, was kidding.
Wait, WHAT??? Cack fell for an obvious lie from Twitter? Nooooo! I'm shocked! lol
 

NorthDakota

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Let me know when you’re gonna stop moving the goalposts.
You are giving value to a convenient boogeyman organization who has zero power/influence.

If Bader Meinhof or the IRA could vote in the US, they'd vote for democrats. No idea if either exist anymore, but it's about as valid as caring who the Klan votes for.
 

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You should learn the difference in meaning between the words "defend" and "explain." Either that, or stop intentionally misrepresenting what others say. I understand why you do it and why you have to, though. Carry on!
And why is it that you felt the need to "explain" him? If he was a racist POS his grave should be pissed on, not "explained".

Also, while I have you here, care to use your master facts and logic to respond to my post regarding the WalMart closures in Portland? Or are we still in the culture war only padded room?
 

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You are giving value to a convenient boogeyman organization who has zero power/influence.

If Bader Meinhof or the IRA could vote in the US, they'd vote for democrats. No idea if either exist anymore, but it's about as valid as caring who the Klan votes for.
He's not. He's saying that Bishop having a hard on for Democrats supporting the Klan in the 60's is irrelevant, and even less so now that Klan supporters have endorsed Republicans. There is no value given to them, as the conversation focus of the KKK was by Bishop not SD.
 

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And why is it that you felt the need to "explain" him? If he was a racist POS his grave should be pissed on, not "explained".

Also, while I have you here, care to use your master facts and logic to respond to my post regarding the WalMart closures in Portland? Or are we still in the culture war only padded room?
Why explain something or someone bad? Really? Don't we explain and try to understand serial killers, rapists, ebola, plane crashes, and etc.? Do you ever think before replying to me, or do you just get your feelings hurt and dash off the first silly thought that pops into your head?

As for your Walmart posts, I didn't read them. We all know why Walmart closed the Portland stores. As soon as I read the first couple of nonsensical spin rebuttals from ArmyIrish I knew we weren't going to get anything rational from your side, so I stopped wasting my time expecting anything.
 

NorthDakota

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He's not. He's saying that Bishop having a hard on for Democrats supporting the Klan in the 60's is irrelevant, and even less so now that Klan supporters have endorsed Republicans. There is no value given to them, as the conversation focus of the KKK was by Bishop not SD.
The 1960's had a legit Klan. Even then, waning I think? And no, SD has given value to the Klan's support.

Cack was the one making Klan references. This whole thing is dumb in general. I stand by my point that the Klan is a non-factor and any focus on them is just people being absurd.
 

TorontoGold

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Why explain something or someone bad? Really? Don't we explain and try to understand serial killers, rapists, ebola, plane crashes, and etc.? Do you ever think before replying to me, or do you just get your feelings hurt and dash off the first silly thought that pops into your head?

As for your Walmart posts, I didn't read them. We all know why Walmart closed the Portland stores. As soon as I read the first couple of nonsensical spin rebuttals from ArmyIrish I knew we weren't going to get anything rational from your side, so I stopped wasting my time expecting anything.
Old racists don't need someone trying to provide nuance to what someone believed vs what they did with their power. If I walk into a store tomorrow and light it up, I hope my family and friends don't try and "explain" that I was a good guy that just did a terrible thing.

No worries! Here you go, I cited my numbers and provide reasoning to why my position is what is. You can feel free to respond to it and refute any of the points. Unfortunately I left out any personal jabs or that sort in it so you'll have to just work with the actual post substance.
I think ascribing political ideas to a large brick and motor store shutting down a location or two is a convenient way for people to put their own spin on it. Large box office locations are moving out of cities all over the place. For reference, Toronto's worst neighborhood has an Audi/Benz dealership in it. They certainly experience theft/vandalism at higher rates than other dealerships but if they were to close it would be over a business decision rather than political motive.

Specifically to Portland - this article is stating that the police budget is back up to higher rates than it was in 2020, so if we're going to say defunding the police is contributing then it would have to be related to the 2021 budget decrease.

When I look at the crime data for Portland - there was 5,573 offenses is Jan 2018 and 5,883 in Jan 2023. Which is a 5.5% increase in gross offenses. Based on these population trend, it seems like Portland averages an increase of around 1% in pop growth. So basically it seems like crime rates appear to be increasing at comparable population increases. The data does show a spike in crime in 2021, but did Wal Mart shutdown their stores in 2021? No, they didn't.



So what has significantly changed in the past 5 years in Wal Mart's ecospace? The prominence of online selling and reduction of store space. I think it's easier to explain that Wal Mart is shutting these locations down to accommodate for those shifts.

If you look at their annual report, they have been consistently decreasing their retail square feet metrics. Unfortunately we can't see what their inventory provision stats look like or shrinkage to see what $ of theft is happening.

 

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The 1960's had a legit Klan. Even then, waning I think? And no, SD has given value to the Klan's support.

Cack was the one making Klan references. This whole thing is dumb in general. I stand by my point that the Klan is a non-factor and any focus on them is just people being absurd.
The idea that the powerless, marginalized organization of the past 50 years with only a tiny fraction of its past membership is equivalent to the Klan of the previous 100 years who controlled senators, congressmen, governors' mansions, statehouses, law enforcement agencies, and the social and financial powerbrokers, is a joke. They're desperate to dodge the all too accurate accusation that THEIR party was the party of racism and the Klan.
 

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The 1960's had a legit Klan. Even then, waning I think? And no, SD has given value to the Klan's support.

Cack was the one making Klan references. This whole thing is dumb in general. I stand by my point that the Klan is a non-factor and any focus on them is just people being absurd.
You continue to conveniently ignore the undisputed fact that hate groups like the Klan, in the year 2023 and for the last 50 something years, have been made up entirely of Republican voters (if they even vote.)

He was just stating a fact in response to Bishop's initial position, that's all. Cack used hyperbole and Bishop felt the need to jump in.
 

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The Klan is a marginalized, powerless, pale shadow of what they were decades ago. Nobody pays any attention to them and they have little to no ability to affect anything today. Nobody gives a flip about a handful of nutty, powerless racists today. We're talking about the Klan when it controlled state houses, sheriff departments, city councils, governor's mansions, and etc. from the 1860's through the 1960's. You know, your people... democrats.
You are giving value to a convenient boogeyman organization who has zero power/influence.

If Bader Meinhof or the IRA could vote in the US, they'd vote for democrats. No idea if either exist anymore, but it's about as valid as caring who the Klan votes for.
Why are the two of you fixated on the Klan? I said “hate groups like the Klan. This isn’t 1923 when there was only 1 main hate group. Today, there are over 450 white supremacist hate groups. These groups have more members combined than the Klan in their heydey.
 

NorthDakota

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Why are the two of you fixated on the Klan? I said “hate groups like the Klan. This isn’t 1923 when there was only 1 main hate group. Today, there are over 450 white supremacist hate groups. These groups have more members combined than the Klan in their heydey.
Show your numbers. I'd be very interested in finding out that the white supremacists make up more than the Klan at its peak. (Something like 6 million of 125 million americans)
 

NorthDakota

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He was just stating a fact in response to Bishop's initial position, that's all. Cack used hyperbole and Bishop felt the need to jump in.
Eh, I dont think Cack is using hyperbole at this point.

Dude falls for Twitter photoshops the way your girlfriend's Uncle might fall for Facebook memes. Posts Rupar vids regularly. I can go on if needed.
 

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Show your numbers. I'd be very interested in finding out that the white supremacists make up more than the Klan at its peak. (Something like 6 million of 125 million americans)
It was 4 million at it’s peak in the 1920s. The SPLC website has the numbers. I imagine you’ll come up with a reason to disagree. You either accept it or not; I don’t really care. It doesn’t change my original point at all.
 

NorthDakota

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It was 4 million at it’s peak in the 1920s. It doesn’t matter what evidence that I provide; you will say it’s from some unreliable, leftist entity. You either accept it or not.
Wikipedia says 6 million. Let's settle on 4 million.

Show the numbers. I'll engage in good faith.
 

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Ultimately they just can’t accept that their party is home to the racists and Nazis. That’s all it is. The rest is mental gymnastics.
 

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Alexa….which party ran actual Nazis in recent elections?




 
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Bro is citing local politicians lmaoo
 
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