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I'm attracted to biological females? Male parts ain't attractive to me. Also, putting someone's existence purely on whether they're smashable is wrong. Many on here could post pictures of their current/former partners and I guarantee you I wouldn't sleep with some of them - doesn't mean that their partner isn't a woman.
C'mon now, don't pretend you didn't see the part where I said not to spin and twist and dodge. You've said trans women are real women. You don't have to be attracted to all of them, as none of us are attracted to every woman. I'm asking you to show us some pics of some of those fully women/real women/trans women you do find hot and would like to get hot & sweaty with. They're real women, just as much so as those born with Dos Equis in their genes. There are thousands of these real women that have an inconvenient, but obviously, according to you and the rest of the gang, meaningless Y chromosome. Of those thousands or even tens of thousands, just show us a few you'd take to Tumble Town. It's OK, we won't judge. Don't be a hateful bigot and discriminate against trans women. Show us the ones you find hot.
 

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We have drug laws, right? Do you oppose drug laws? Fentanyl should be legal? Assisted suicides legal? How about seat belt laws? Why do we have them? I hate seat belts, they oppress my ability to do jumping jacks while I drive. There are many laws on the books that oppress peoples ability to have agency over their own body.

When we speak of gender issues your “norms” are pushing I change my language and conform to your ideologues. When you tell me my religion oppressive, you are telling me how to worship and practice my religion. In my religion Jim isn’t Janet just because he claims he is so I should not be subject to go along with Jim’s nonsense. You are free to call Jim whatever you want.

Does a baby have agency over their body when they are aborted?
Anything that impacts someone other than yourself should be regulated in some manner. What someone does to their own body should be up to that person and that person alone. Tattoo's are a good example for this. Someone being trans is not the same as distracted driving, I can't believe I have to say that lol. This is like regulating the type of music someone listens to. Nothing will impact your life if I only want to listen to Bowie or whatever. You may not like Bowie, but it doesn't impact you at all.

I'm not pushing anything, I'm just saying let people live and let them do what they want. If a trans person was trying to cut your dick off too, then I would say that's not cool, but they aren't.

A mother's life should be priority.

Supporting "trans" people involves therapy. Counseling. Not cutting off their genitals. This isn't hard.

My buddy was schizophrenic. I didn't tell him that the FBI was following him. Pretending a man is a woman doesn't help anyone. Or vice versa.

Everyone that can afford therapy should go to it, trans or not. Going to a therapist isn't a sign of weakness and many would greatly benefit from going to one. I would recommend it to everyone. Trans people that have means certainly go to therapy.

A schizophrenic person is a danger to themselves in addition to society if they don't receive the proper help. Not even remotely the same.
 

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C'mon now, don't pretend you didn't see the part where I said not to spin and twist and dodge. You've said trans women are real women. You don't have to be attracted to all of them, as none of us are attracted to every woman. I'm asking you to show us some pics of some of those fully women/real women/trans women you do find hot and would like to get hot & sweaty with. They're real women, just as much so as those born with Dos Equis in their genes. There are thousands of these real women that have an inconvenient, but obviously, according to you and the rest of the gang, meaningless Y chromosome. Of those thousands or even tens of thousands, just show us a few you'd take to Tumble Town. It's OK, we won't judge. Don't be a hateful bigot and discriminate against trans women. Show us the ones you find hot.

Change your glasses prescription and read a bit closer, bud. I'm allowed to be attracted to female parts vs male parts. You have a type, right? Or are your standards so low that you take what you can get? Because if I don't want to sleep with someone that doesn't mean I believe their existence is a fraud.

You should tell your daughters that their worth is only in whether a man will want to plow them. That would be some great parenting.
 

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Change your glasses prescription and read a bit closer, bud. I'm allowed to be attracted to female parts vs male parts. You have a type, right? Or are your standards so low that you take what you can get? Because if I don't want to sleep with someone that doesn't mean I believe their existence is a fraud.

You should tell your daughters that their worth is only in whether a man will want to plow them. That would be some great parenting.
Aww, c'mon T! You said trans women were real women. Don't be a sexual bigot and hater, bro. Discriminating against them because they started life with an hotdog instead of a hamburger is just hateful and all. What about the ones who've transitioned and are full on vagina totin' women? You gonna treat them like 2nd class citizens in the game of love? Really? After you've gone on and on about how they're just as much women as those born with a hooha? I'm disappointed in you. This is just sexual bigotry and hate and discrimination. I expected so much better from an enlighted woke "love who you want" sorta gentleman like you. You could just live up to your word and pick a few real woman babes from the tens of thousands that have transitioned and have the right parts (though I'm a little disappointed in you for being a part bigot). If you don't want to show us your open-minded tastes in trans women who are totally real women as you say, I can help you with a few suggestions.
 

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Anything that impacts someone other than yourself should be regulated in some manner. What someone does to their own body should be up to that person and that person alone. Tattoo's are a good example for this. Someone being trans is not the same as distracted driving, I can't believe I have to say that lol. This is like regulating the type of music someone listens to. Nothing will impact your life if I only want to listen to Bowie or whatever. You may not like Bowie, but it doesn't impact you at all.

I'm not pushing anything, I'm just saying let people live and let them do what they want. If a trans person was trying to cut your dick off too, then I would say that's not cool, but they aren't.

A mother's life should be priority.
I was not advocating doing jumping jacks while driving. But who’s life am I affecting if I do not wear a seatbelt? The fact you are insinuating I was serious about doing jumping jacks in my vehicle just points to wanting to win this argument instead of being serious.

Let me do what I want. I’ve already told you that you can have gay sex if you want. Have at it. You can dress how you want. I just don’t have to subscribe to it.
 

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Aww, c'mon T! You said trans women were real women. Don't be a sexual bigot and hater, bro. Discriminating against them because they started life with an hotdog instead of a hamburger is just hateful and all. What about the ones who've transitioned and are full on vagina totin' women? You gonna treat them like 2nd class citizens in the game of love? Really? After you've gone on and on about how they're just as much women as those born with a hooha? I'm disappointed in you. This is just sexual bigotry and hate and discrimination. I expected so much better from an enlighted woke "love who you want" sorta gentleman like you. You could just live up to your word and pick a few real woman babes from the tens of thousands that have transitioned and have the right parts (though I'm a little disappointed in you for being a part bigot). If you don't want to show us your open-minded tastes in trans women who are totally real women as you say, I can help you with a few suggestions.
I’m not attracted to obese women or ugly women. Does that mean I’m a sexual bigot?
 

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I didn’t think so. Catholic’s don’t take the Old Testament literally, and you obviously do.
I’m at the gym but I’m sure if you look back I brought up Ephesians. That’s New Testament and I’m sure I can find other scripture in the new testiment. If you want to cherry pick the Bible.
 

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Anything that impacts someone other than yourself should be regulated in some manner. What someone does to their own body should be up to that person and that person alone. Tattoo's are a good example for this. Someone being trans is not the same as distracted driving, I can't believe I have to say that lol. This is like regulating the type of music someone listens to. Nothing will impact your life if I only want to listen to Bowie or whatever. You may not like Bowie, but it doesn't impact you at all.

I'm not pushing anything, I'm just saying let people live and let them do what they want. If a trans person was trying to cut your dick off too, then I would say that's not cool, but they aren't.

A mother's life should be priority.



Everyone that can afford therapy should go to it, trans or not. Going to a therapist isn't a sign of weakness and many would greatly benefit from going to one. I would recommend it to everyone. Trans people that have means certainly go to therapy.

A schizophrenic person is a danger to themselves in addition to society if they don't receive the proper help. Not even remotely the same.
Cutting off genitals is a danger to people who realize that doesn't solve their issues. So yes, it's not the same. It's even worse.
 

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I’m at the gym but I’m sure if you look back I brought up Ephesians. That’s New Testament and I’m sure I can find other scripture in the new testiment. If you want to cherry pick the Bible.
I don’t care about your book of fairytales.
 

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I’m not attracted to obese women or ugly women. Does that mean I’m a sexual bigot?
He's free to choose from tens of thousands of real women who are trans - short, tall, fat, skinny, black, brown, white, Asian, blonde, brunette or redhead. I'm even willing to get the ball rolling and show him some suggestions to help him out.
 

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Then we have nothing to talk about. Carry on.
He's free to choose from tens of thousands of real women who are trans - short, tall, fat, skinny, black, brown, white, Asian, blonde, brunette or redhead. I'm even willing to get the ball rolling and show him some suggestions to help him out.
Am I homophopic because I’m not attracted to men?
 

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Aww, c'mon T! You said trans women were real women. Don't be a sexual bigot and hater, bro. Discriminating against them because they started life with an hotdog instead of a hamburger is just hateful and all. What about the ones who've transitioned and are full on vagina totin' women? You gonna treat them like 2nd class citizens in the game of love? Really? After you've gone on and on about how they're just as much women as those born with a hooha? I'm disappointed in you. This is just sexual bigotry and hate and discrimination. I expected so much better from an enlighted woke "love who you want" sorta gentleman like you. You could just live up to your word and pick a few real woman babes from the tens of thousands that have transitioned and have the right parts (though I'm a little disappointed in you for being a part bigot). If you don't want to show us your open-minded tastes in trans women who are totally real women as you say, I can help you with a few suggestions.
Live up to my word? lol I can't change what I like. Being a bigot would be if I discriminated against them, cisgender people can sleep with transgender people all they want. Doesn't bother me, does it bother you?

Again, your belief is that your daughters exist only to be a vessel as to which their worth is determined whether or not someone finds them breedable if they are to share the same views as you do. You want me to decide to whether they're a woman or not? If they don't pass the "you must sleep with them to determine whether they are a woman or not" Bishop test then they won't be women! Shall we continue, or do you see this little thought experiment is dumb?
 

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Gender is based on societal norms, if societal norms evolve then parts of society will change as well. Fortunately, we know that transgender people have existed for a long time so this isn't really a discussion.
A rose by any other name.
 

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Live up to my word? lol I can't change what I like. Being a bigot would be if I discriminated against them, cisgender people can sleep with transgender people all they want. Doesn't bother me, does it bother you?

Again, your belief is that your daughters exist only to be a vessel as to which their worth is determined whether or not someone finds them breedable if they are to share the same views as you do. You want me to decide to whether they're a woman or not? If they don't pass the "you must sleep with them to determine whether they are a woman or not" Bishop test then they won't be women! Shall we continue, or do you see this little thought experiment is dumb?
I never mentioned my daughters. Don't change the subject and twist & dodge. This is about you discriminating against trans women. You have, over and over, claimed they're every bit as much women as those born with a vagina and two X chromosomes. I've given you the full range of all such trans women to choose from and tell us which ones you'd be just as attracted to as the born female women (and they're all the same according to you). So don't dodge. Don't spin. Don't get embarrassed. You made the assertion. Back it up. I have no doubt you meant it and you don't think of trans women as any different or any less female than those born female. Don't be shy, bro. Show us pics of the ones you'd have a go with.
 
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