Marcus Freeman named Dick Corbett Head Football Coach

[yankeehater]

All I know is he has coached two games and led both at halftime only to lose. Obviously, both winnable. Not impressed so far.

 

[Crazy Balki]

Making excuses for BK's OC. His scheming against OSU was weak and awful.

Having a first time starting QB, with an OL that's getting whooped repeatedly to the point that said QB is facing pressure every other drop back, with a non-existent run game and insanely limited options at receiver is just...making excuses.

That's not "making excuses" dude. That's reality. Nobody is going to scheme around bad personnel getting beat. You don't have the tools outside to force Ohio State to play honest and your line (the interior at least) is getting physically manhandled.

It was clear as day that scheme wasn't the reason the offense struggled. It was losing the battle in the trenches and having no answer outside of Styles and Mayer, which good teams can easily defend against.

 

[Redbar]

All I know is he has coached two games and led both at halftime only to lose. Obviously, both winnable. Not impressed so far.

Do you even context, bro?

 

[irishff1014]

Having a first time starting QB, with an OL that's getting whooped repeatedly to the point that said QB is facing pressure every other drop back, with a non-existent run game and insanely limited options at receiver is just...making excuses.

That's not "making excuses" dude. That's reality. Nobody is going to scheme around bad personnel getting beat. You don't have the tools outside to force Ohio State to play honest and your line (the interior at least) is getting physically manhandled.

It was clear as day that scheme wasn't the reason the offense struggled. It was losing the battle in the trenches and having no answer outside of Styles and Mayer, which good teams can easily defend against.

But a good offensive coordinator knows his weakness. If you know that being in two tight ends. Very first play of the game you come out with two tight ends in line and 2 wr’s your Qb and running back.

At this point it’s a look that’s to our strength. If the defense presents with a billy you have extra blockers in your tight ends. If they show that your tight ends are getting a easy match up you have short route to a TE end or in styles case he might win his battle.

And I saw some where’s that Pff graded Zeke really bad. You can’t tell me that staff is that bad that they didn’t see that coming.

 

[Sea Turtle]

Having a first time starting QB, with an OL that's getting whooped repeatedly to the point that said QB is facing pressure every other drop back, with a non-existent run game and insanely limited options at receiver is just...making excuses.

That's not "making excuses" dude. That's reality. Nobody is going to scheme around bad personnel getting beat. You don't have the tools outside to force Ohio State to play honest and your line (the interior at least) is getting physically manhandled.

It was clear as day that scheme wasn't the reason the offense struggled. It was losing the battle in the trenches and having no answer outside of Styles and Mayer, which good teams can easily defend against.

Our vaunted yearly o line gets manhandled every single time we play one of the big boys.

 

[Sea Turtle]

But a good offensive coordinator knows his weakness. If you know that being in two tight ends. Very first play of the game you come out with two tight ends in line and 2 wr’s your Qb and running back.

At this point it’s a look that’s to our strength. If the defense presents with a billy you have extra blockers in your tight ends. If they show that your tight ends are getting a easy match up you have short route to a TE end or in styles case he might win his battle.

And I saw some where’s that Pff graded Zeke really bad. You can’t tell me that staff is that bad that they didn’t see that coming.

I think Freeman said it best. If Paterson being out made that much of a difference, then they have much bigger problems than they knew.

 

[irishff1014]

I think Freeman said it best. If Paterson being out made that much of a difference, then they have much bigger problems than they knew.

I didn’t see that. But he is 100% right. And our strength is no long a strength.

 

[T-Boone]

I think Freeman said it best. If Paterson being out made that much of a difference, then they have much bigger problems than they knew.

Coach freeman said that?

 

[Redbar]

It was in his postgame presser I believe.

 

[Crazy Balki]

But a good offensive coordinator knows his weakness. If you know that being in two tight ends. Very first play of the game you come out with two tight ends in line and 2 wr’s your Qb and running back.

At this point it’s a look that’s to our strength. If the defense presents with a billy you have extra blockers in your tight ends. If they show that your tight ends are getting a easy match up you have short route to a TE end or in styles case he might win his battle.

And I saw some where’s that Pff graded Zeke really bad. You can’t tell me that staff is that bad that they didn’t see that coming.

ND played a ton in double tight end sets.

Tommy clearly knew his weaknesses, but that doesn't mean he's equipped to overcome them against a quality defense.

You say that we need to look to our strength. That's the problem. ND's strengths don't mean the weaknesses go away. There's another person on the other side of the field that can scheme to neutralize your strengths and expose your weaknesses.

ND often played as you suggested and called plays to get easy matchups, but the reality is that ND had very few "easy" matchups to exploit and when they did, they were missed. There were a lot of plays to be had, but because Buchner was pressured on literally half of his drops, you had several missed opportunities with a first time starting QB.

 

[Sea Turtle]

ND played a ton in double tight end sets.

Tommy clearly knew his weaknesses, but that doesn't mean he's equipped to overcome them against a quality defense.

You say that we need to look to our strength. That's the problem. ND's strengths don't mean the weaknesses go away. There's another person on the other side of the field that can scheme to neutralize your strengths and expose your weaknesses.

ND often played as you suggested and called plays to get easy matchups, but the reality is that ND had very few "easy" matchups to exploit and when they did, they were missed. There were a lot of plays to be had, but because Buchner was pressured on literally half of his drops, you had several missed opportunities with a first time starting QB.

So we had 7 or even 8 blocking with a RB and still got whipped. That makes it even worse.

Do our offensive coaches even coach? Do the offensive players even play?

 

[Crazy Balki]

So we had 7 or even 8 blocking with a RB and still got whipped. That makes it even worse.

Do our offensive coaches even coach? Do the offensive players even play?

That doesn't mean those 2 tight ends are staying in to block.

I don't think it's a coaching issue. I think it comes down to execution and poor communication. Lugg and Correll were the primary culprits and easily the 2 worst players on the field on Saturday.

They had several miscues and missed assignments, and struggled with communication and to top it off, simply got physically manhandled.

Moving forward, those two cannot start. Lugg needs to be benched for Spindler, because if Lugg isn't going to provide the assignment soundness that you expect from a veteran, what's the point of having him out there? If we want to just take the lumps with miscues, then put Spindler out there and let him take his lumps and actually improve over the season, whereas that isn't going to happen with Lugg, since he is who he is. Correll is simply not big enough to hold up against even 1 on 1 matchups, and it doesn't help his case when he's unable to run point on communication and also misses assignments.

 

[Te'o4Heisman]

So we had 7 or even 8 blocking with a RB and still got whipped. That makes it even worse.

Do our offensive coaches even coach? Do the offensive players even play?

Typical Sea Turtle value added post. Do the math on 8 blocking, with a RB and accounting for a QB. Didnt see too many single route plays during the game. Having multiple TE sets doesnt mean or imply in any way theyre all staying in pass pro, but you know that. You’re just pot committed to your tired schtick.

 

[Sea Turtle]

ND played a ton in double tight end sets.

Tommy clearly knew his weaknesses, but that doesn't mean he's equipped to overcome them against a quality defense.

You say that we need to look to our strength. That's the problem. ND's strengths don't mean the weaknesses go away. There's another person on the other side of the field that can scheme to neutralize your strengths and expose your weaknesses.

ND often played as you suggested and called plays to get easy matchups, but the reality is that ND had very few "easy" matchups to exploit and when they did, they were missed. There were a lot of plays to be had, but because Buchner was pressured on literally half of his drops, you had several missed opportunities with a first time starting QB.

So our tightens got whipped too then. Nice

Typical Sea Turtle value added post. Do the math on 8 blocking, with a RB and accounting for a QB. Didnt see too many single route plays during the game. Having multiple TE sets doesnt mean or imply in any way theyre all staying in pass pro, but you know that. You’re just pot committed to your tired schtick.

It allows for two routes. It allows for power running, play action and for slipping a tight end or back to create a third target.
Once they saw that our line was ass, they should have gone to this strategy imo.

 

[Crazy Balki]

So our tightens got whipped too then. Nice

It allows for two routes. It allows for power running, play action and for slipping a tight end or back to create a third target.
Once they saw that our line was ass, they should have gone to this strategy imo.

Again, you missed the point. Most of the pressure that Ohio State generated was coming from the interior, where guys like Correll, Lugg and Kristofic were either whiffing on assignments or flat out getting physically manhandled.

TE play was generally pretty good, but again, just because ND lines up in double tight sets doesn't mean those tight ends are staying in to block.

And ND did what you suggested too and slipped TEs, but that doesn't matter if your interior line is getting worked and Buchner is having to force the ball out under duress half the time. The ball generally isn't going to come out well if your QB has a defender in his face.

Power running only works if your line is winning battles against their front. Alt was doing that, Fisher less so but solid. The other three were getting consistently whooped. No matter what way you spin it, you can't have 3 of your 5 linemen get beat and expect to establish a strong power run game.

 

[Te'o4Heisman]

Buchner missed numerous 2nd reads that came open in the passing game. I’m actually surprised we didnt spread them out more and utilize them the short passing game as an extension of the run, and also to create some QB draw lanes for Buch.
Late in the game we spread them out and ran tyree on a sweep and found some daylight too.
We also did very little of starting Diggs or Tyree in the backfield and then motioning them out wide to create mismatches. It is what it is, I expect the players and coaches to gel as the season goes on. I do hope we see some of the young LBs and offensive lineman get some burn.

 

[ulukinatme]

Yes that is why you do screens. And Rees didn't call for them. Ugh.

Maybe Buchner or the offense can't execute a screen? Maybe they gave him the best gameplan Tyler was capable of executing given the circumstances. Why do you think you know more than the entire offensive staff? I agree that a screen probably would have been helpful, but there's probably a good reason why they didn't run one.

 

[INLaw]

This thread is chalk full of tldr recently. Tighten it up into hard hitting, tight worded insults and accusations and your mama jokes or gtfo

 

[du Lac]

IB was very critical. I was impressed. Didn’t think they had it in them.

 

[Crazy Balki]

Maybe Buchner or the offense can't execute a screen? Maybe they gave him the best gameplan Tyler was capable of executing given the circumstances. Why do you think you know more than the entire offensive staff? I agree that a screen probably would have been helpful, but there's probably a good reason why they didn't run one.

It's funny how we've gone from despising screens because we always sucked at them to begging for more screens now.

I wish we would've tried more screens and play-action, but I'm also realistic in knowing that our personnel options are severely limited, so maybe we don't have strong blocking receivers, which isn't all the unreasonable, considering we only have like....3 receivers to choose from and none of our TE's appear to be great blockers. Doesn't help that Ohio State had safeties crashing all game, because they knew they could hit the LOS early and often, because their DL was going to win up front against ND's failing interior OL.

 

[calvegas04]

I dunno man....

 

[irishff1014]

This is why you hire experience. Jack got this hire wrong.

 

[DCDomer]

Really??? He's a defensive head coach. He's got that side of the ball figured out.

Rees was forced on him. He was the first one to say he was staying and it drove the wave of momentum behind Freeman. If we look like this all year, and doesn't make changes, THEN it's time to question him.

 

[laughingirish90]

bad coaching by the whole staff today

 

[NDMatt91]

This team isn’t going to make a bowl game and the 2023 recruiting class is going to fall apart, so I’d be fine if they fired everyone.

 

[DCDomer]

This team isn’t going to make a bowl game and the 2023 recruiting class is going to fall apart, so I’d be fine if they fired everyone.

You're an idiot.

 

[DCDomer]

I'm all in on Marcus and the fans turning on him is crazy BUT this had me DYING

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

What we have seen to this point is not what we wanted or expected, but let's get a grip for a moment. I'm not going to "revisit" anything until after the season is over and they've signed a full class in February. I can't speak for the rest of you, but a good portion of my life has been setbacks and things not going my way more often than not. You pick up and move on, and I'm incredibly fortunate to be where I am today knowing that my road isn't as difficult as most others on this planet, including many of you, I'm sure.

So your sports teams let you down. There are greater tragedies in the world. Realistically, we knew this head coach at this job in this moment was not going to be without some speed bumps. We've seen two big ones so far. Be that as it may, I want him to finish out the year and upgrade the talent with his first full season cycle recruiting class. Adjust his coaching staff should he need to.

Incredibly premature to "revisit" anything or start talking about firing people mid season. Breathe.

 

[TNUtoNotreDame]

Marcus Freeman, Notre Dame football torched by media after loss to Stanford

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[Jiggafini19Deux]

Off season visits to make for Marcus Freeman:

Lance Leipold
Kyle Whittingham

Bill Belichick
Mike Tomlin