'23 MI QB Dante Moore (Greek Spaghetti Transfer)

[Irish#1]

I can't find or remember where I saw it exactly but a couple of weeks ago there was an article in which Freeman was asked about QB recruiting - maybe at an alumni event - and he said something to the effect of "I can't talk about it yet but we have a young man coming who's going to change Notre Dame football." The confidence was striking.

Maybe Freeman was talking out of his ass. Or maybe he's being played by a 16-year-old. And of course nothing's certain until Dante runs out of the tunnel on Senior Day. But it's also quite possible he knows something about this recruitment that we don't.

He was on a trip to some alumni clubs down in FL.

 

[Reaper97]

He was on a trip to some alumni clubs down in FL.

I don’t think it was from an article, wasn’t it from a poster who was there in person and they posted it on ND forums?

 

[Luckylucci]

I don’t think it was from an article, wasn’t it from a poster who was there in person and they posted it on ND forums?

It was a poster at ISD.

 

[allenm5333]

I don’t think it was from an article, wasn’t it from a poster who was there in person and they posted it on ND forums?

It was a poster. MF was in Cali and had Jarrett Patterson with him. He mentioned something about pursuing a guy that would change the face of ND. And then asked Patterson if he did a good job of not spilling the beans

 

[Irish'15]

It was a poster. MF was in Cali and had Jarrett Patterson with him. He mentioned something about pursuing a guy that would change the face of ND. And then asked Patterson if he did a good job of not spilling the beans

If in Cali, that's Julian Sayin, not Dante Moore.

 

[Irish#1]

Why does everyone assume Moore and Carr wouldn't come to ND? Other schools have multiple quality QB's commit one year after another. Maybe they end up transferring after a year, but they commit none the less.

 

[Plankton]

I don’t think it was from an article, wasn’t it from a poster who was there in person and they posted it on ND forums?

Sampson had this in a column about following Marcus Freeman on the alumni circuit for a couple of days.

 

[allenm5333]

If in Cali, that's Julian Sayin, not Dante Moore.

He was speaking at an event in Cali for ND boosters/alum. It was still about Dante

 

[hungryhippo]

If in Cali, that's Julian Sayin, not Dante Moore.

Please stop speculating and stating it as fact.

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

Has anyone considered that Moore is simply dragging out his commitment because he wants to retain his fifth star for as long as possible?

Once he *publicly* commits, you know it's as good as gone and he'll be relegated to a .9500

 

[Sea Turtle]

Holding firm, here.

 

[Irish#1]

Holding firm, here.

Viagra or Cialis?

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

Viagra or Cialis?

 

[Irish'15]

So Dante is heading to A&M 17-19. Any clue what he's doing next weekend? Seems all his future teammates are on campus. Might be a good time to come hang?

 

[Reaper97]

So Dante is heading to A&M 17-19. Any clue what he's doing next weekend? Seems all his future teammates are on campus. Might be a good time to come hang?

He is competing in a 7v7 event on the 10th.

 

[Irish'15]

He is competing in a 7v7 event on the 10th.

Gotcha.

 

[Laker]

Other schools have gotten two consecutive 5* or borderline 5* QB’s. Clemson just got Vizz (who I think is better than Dante) right after getting Klubnik. OSU went back to back with Ewers/McCord and then Devin Brown. It’s very possible and especially with very likable and relatable coaches like MF and Tommy. If it’s a true “either/or” I’d pick Dante, but it’s close. I think Dante’s a little better prospect. Once he gets to college and adds 20-25 lbs to fill out his frame, you’ll see the arm strength jump and I think he has a good chance to turn into a big time QB with his accuracy, touch and athleticism.

However, if CJ wants to commit first you obviously take him and figure out ’23 if Dante insists on not going to the same school. I’m not buying that though. So he’s going to dodge competing against CJ, but go to A&M to compete against Weigman who’s a year older? Or LSU with Howard who’s a year older? Or he’ll go to Miami with Cristobal who had a top 10 NFL QB almost immediately when Herbert got in there, but he looked just good in college? I guess that leaves Michigan, but Dante does not seem too excited about them. They can’t really build any recruiting momentum and their coach just tried to leave for the NFL again. If you want to play for a big-time program there is always going to be very talented guys around you.

 

[Irish'15]

Other schools have gotten two consecutive 5* or borderline 5* QB’s. Clemson just got Vizz (who I think is better than Dante) right after getting Klubnik. OSU went back to back with Ewers/McCord and then Devin Brown. It’s very possible and especially with very likable and relatable coaches like MF and Tommy. If it’s a true “either/or” I’d pick Dante, but it’s close. I think Dante’s a little better prospect. Once he gets to college and adds 20-25 lbs to fill out his frame, you’ll see the arm strength jump and I think he has a good chance to turn into a big time QB with his accuracy, touch and athleticism.

However, if CJ wants to commit first you obviously take him and figure out ’23 if Dante insists on not going to the same school. I’m not buying that though. So he’s going to dodge competing against CJ, but go to A&M to compete against Weigman who’s a year older? Or LSU with Howard who’s a year older? Or he’ll go to Miami with Cristobal who had a top 10 NFL QB almost immediately when Herbert got in there, but he looked just good in college? I guess that leaves Michigan, but Dante does not seem too excited about them. They can’t really build any recruiting momentum and their coach just tried to leave for the NFL again. If you want to play for a big-time program there is always going to be very talented guys around you.

Dante cares about NIL. And to be fair, Rees and Freeman haven't done squat and Jimbo has. Winston + a NC. I hate Jimbo more than any other coach. I think he's a snake. I like MF a lot. So it pains me to say all of this. If it were me though, I could be bought and this nonsense about he won't be successful there and his undergraduate degree from ND will make him loads more money than one from A&M is wrong. Nobody makes a lot of money with a Bachelor's degree. Might ND offer him opportunities to make money that A&M won't? Absolutely, but it's not guaranteed, and it's harder to imagine as the opportunities abound in less clear ways. You still have to work your ass off. Do I think Dante's best move is ND due to the total package (degree, early PT, NFL potential, plenty of opp. to make $, alumni network, BHC, one on one with one of the hottest names in OC, elite OL, national brand, proximity to family, likely the face of the program)? Yep. But if you cannot convince him of that, perhaps he's not right for ND. Even if ND landed both Dante and Carr, there would be an extreme bias towards Dante as the starter. He carries a lot of buzz that CJ does not. ND offers him the best opportunity. But I can see why a 17 year old might take easy cash and a NC coach over early playing time, proximity, and degree. There is no question I would take guaranteed $9 million over an ND degree. No question. Call me crazy, but that's the decision I would make for good or worse. I would invest about $8 million and have one hell of a good time with the other $1 million and I would likely blow my NFL dreams due to lack of discipline. Not all kids are like me. However, if ND isn't playing this NIL game to the same level then I say get used to losing big QB's. It will be the first of many. In the non NIL era, Dante already committed to ND.

 

[Dale]

Loy said today too early to know for sure but if he had to guess Avery Johnson + Carr is more likely than Dante Moore + Carr

 

[Riddickulous]

Ideally you want both but I don't think it's the end of the world as long as we get one of them.

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

Ideally you want both but I don't think it's the end of the world as long as we get one of them.

Bingo.

 

[Dale]

Ideally you want both but I don't think it's the end of the world as long as we get one of them.

True and if it’s Avery Johnson he’s the type of developmental kid that you almost pair with Angeli as a floor ceiling back to back. Honestly would be more upset it could mean no Sayin then no Moore at this point but that’s being a bit salty to Moore haha

 

[317Irish]

Dante cares about NIL. And to be fair, Rees and Freeman haven't done squat and Jimbo has. Winston + a NC. I hate Jimbo more than any other coach. I think he's a snake. I like MF a lot. So it pains me to say all of this. If it were me though, I could be bought and this nonsense about he won't be successful there and his undergraduate degree from ND will make him loads more money than one from A&M is wrong. Nobody makes a lot of money with a Bachelor's degree. Might ND offer him opportunities to make money that A&M won't? Absolutely, but it's not guaranteed, and it's harder to imagine as the opportunities abound in less clear ways. You still have to work your ass off. Do I think Dante's best move is ND due to the total package (degree, early PT, NFL potential, plenty of opp. to make $, alumni network, BHC, one on one with one of the hottest names in OC, elite OL, national brand, proximity to family, likely the face of the program)? Yep. But if you cannot convince him of that, perhaps he's not right for ND. Even if ND landed both Dante and Carr, there would be an extreme bias towards Dante as the starter. He carries a lot of buzz that CJ does not. ND offers him the best opportunity. But I can see why a 17 year old might take easy cash and a NC coach over early playing time, proximity, and degree. There is no question I would take guaranteed $9 million over an ND degree. No question. Call me crazy, but that's the decision I would make for good or worse. I would invest about $8 million and have one hell of a good time with the other $1 million and I would likely blow my NFL dreams due to lack of discipline. Not all kids are like me. However, if ND isn't playing this NIL game to the same level then I say get used to losing big QB's. It will be the first of many. In the non NIL era, Dante already committed to ND.

Care to share how you would invest it? I’m looking for some advice

 

[TorontoGold]

Dante cares about NIL. And to be fair, Rees and Freeman haven't done squat and Jimbo has. Winston + a NC. I hate Jimbo more than any other coach. I think he's a snake. I like MF a lot. So it pains me to say all of this. If it were me though, I could be bought and this nonsense about he won't be successful there and his undergraduate degree from ND will make him loads more money than one from A&M is wrong. Nobody makes a lot of money with a Bachelor's degree. Might ND offer him opportunities to make money that A&M won't? Absolutely, but it's not guaranteed, and it's harder to imagine as the opportunities abound in less clear ways. You still have to work your ass off. Do I think Dante's best move is ND due to the total package (degree, early PT, NFL potential, plenty of opp. to make $, alumni network, BHC, one on one with one of the hottest names in OC, elite OL, national brand, proximity to family, likely the face of the program)? Yep. But if you cannot convince him of that, perhaps he's not right for ND. Even if ND landed both Dante and Carr, there would be an extreme bias towards Dante as the starter. He carries a lot of buzz that CJ does not. ND offers him the best opportunity. But I can see why a 17 year old might take easy cash and a NC coach over early playing time, proximity, and degree. There is no question I would take guaranteed $9 million over an ND degree. No question. Call me crazy, but that's the decision I would make for good or worse. I would invest about $8 million and have one hell of a good time with the other $1 million and I would likely blow my NFL dreams due to lack of discipline. Not all kids are like me. However, if ND isn't playing this NIL game to the same level then I say get used to losing big QB's. It will be the first of many. In the non NIL era, Dante already committed to ND.

1) You are correct "they haven't done squat", there is a collective at ND. The Fund which BQ has been setting up. ND is in the NIL game.
2) You absolutely can make a lot of money with a BA, statistically having a BA adds more to your potential earnings than having an advanced degree (studied this in my undergrad). It's seen as the entry point to most industries (with the exception of academia and medicine).
3) CJ doesn't have the same buzz because he's a 2024 kid, if he keeps this up he will certainly have comparable buzz.

Projecting attributes onto kids because of preconceived notions is tiring, does Dante routinely make claims like "Oh, Oregon is great because of the NIL opportunities"? No. There are other kids who certainly make those statements. Just because he hasn't committed yet doesn't mean that he is this money hungry kid. If he was you'd certainly see reputable beat writers hint at it ala Carnell Tate.

 

[pumpdog20]

Man, this seems (maybe not?) trending the wrong way... I'm always going to be get Moore before Carr, because I just have a hard time believing Carr to ND. And I'm too impatient to find out.

 

[Irish'15]

Loy said today too early to know for sure but if he had to guess Avery Johnson + Carr is more likely than Dante Moore + Carr

We heard this before with Dante. It was he's an ND lock. Now we are hearing it with Carr. Once Carr realizes he's a Carr and Michigan is 5 minutes from his house, he's going to feel extreme pressure. Unless of course his family is all for him going to ND. Hard to have a true opinion without being on the front lines, but I foresee extreme pressure for Carr to pick Michigan. The Michigan staff is going to go Cold War crazy on our a$$es.

I am not crazy about all the Carr buzz in the setting of the lack of Sayin buzz. It feels icky, like it's Dante all in all over again. Unless Carr is ready to drop the hammer very soon and commit, I would prefer to go hard after both Sayin and Carr. Until these kids sign, they're as good as gone imo.

 

[Irish'15]

Care to share how you would invest it? I’m looking for some advice

In a very savvy financial advisor. Sorry, not an investment whiz. Inflationary times make that even tougher. All the more reason to invest.

 

[317Irish]

We heard this before with Dante. It was he's an ND lock. Now we are hearing it with Carr. Once Carr realizes he's a Carr and Michigan is 5 minutes from his house, he's going to feel extreme pressure. Unless of course his family is all for him going to ND. Hard to have a true opinion, but I foresee extreme pressure for Carr to pick Michigan. The Michigan staff is going to go Cold War crazy on our a$$es.

You have been around for like 5 minutes (during this stint at least) and have voiced this concern about a dozen times. It’s just lazy logic and way oversimplifies the recruiting process in the mind of a 16-18 year old.

 

[Riddickulous]

We heard this before with Dante. It was he's an ND lock. Now we are hearing it with Carr. Once Carr realizes he's a Carr and Michigan is 5 minutes from his house, he's going to feel extreme pressure. Unless of course his family is all for him going to ND. Hard to have a true opinion, but I foresee extreme pressure for Carr to pick Michigan. The Michigan staff is going to go Cold War crazy on our a$$es.

I am not thrilled about all the Carr buzz in the setting of the lack of Sayin buzz. It feels icky, like it's Dante all in all over again.

There's no way he doesn't realize this already. Odds are this has been drilled into his head from the day he was born.

 

[Irish'15]

You have been around for like 5 minutes (during this stint at least) and have voiced this concern about a dozen times. It’s just lazy logic and way oversimplifies the recruiting process in the mind of a 16-18 year old.

Gotcha