2022 - State of the Recruiting Class thread

[NDFAN2008]

Looks like we just offered 3 star Justius Lowe who is currently committed to UTAH

 

[Luckylucci]

Per Sinclair, works with the same trainer as Tobias Merriweather. Florida and USC have also offered recently.

 

[Dale]

Bama signee Isaiah Bond (IMO #1 WR) told Loy he and his family loved ND and us (as well as OU) would have been contenders had we offered. Dartmouth, Duke, Vandy offers and visited as a Sophomore.

Imagine the 2 years of argument, hope and debate Del deprived us of here.

 

[GoldenAura]

Bama signee Isaiah Bond (IMO #1 WR) told Loy he and his family loved ND and us (as well as OU) would have been contenders had we offered. Dartmouth, Duke, Vandy offers and visited as a Sophomore.

Imagine the 2 years of argument, hope and debate Del deprived us of here.

WTF

 

[IrishLax]

Bama signee Isaiah Bond (IMO #1 WR) told Loy he and his family loved ND and us (as well as OU) would have been contenders had we offered. Dartmouth, Duke, Vandy offers and visited as a Sophomore.

Imagine the 2 years of argument, hope and debate Del deprived us of here.

What the actual fuck. Instead Del went after a dude from Louisiana and Mater Dei and never expanded the board.

 

[NDIrish88]

What the actual fuck. Instead Del went after a dude from Louisiana and Mater Dei and never expanded the board.

Omg

 

[irishff1014]

Bama signee Isaiah Bond (IMO #1 WR) told Loy he and his family loved ND and us (as well as OU) would have been contenders had we offered. Dartmouth, Duke, Vandy offers and visited as a Sophomore.

Imagine the 2 years of argument, hope and debate Del deprived us of here.

Interesting. SMH

 

[T-Boone]

Bama signee Isaiah Bond (IMO #1 WR) told Loy he and his family loved ND and us (as well as OU) would have been contenders had we offered. Dartmouth, Duke, Vandy offers and visited as a Sophomore.

Imagine the 2 years of argument, hope and debate Del deprived us of here.

that is a crime

 

[Whiskeyjack]

What the actual fuck. Instead Del went after a dude from Louisiana and Mater Dei and never expanded the board.

Losing his job wasn't enough. Time to fire Del into the sun.

 

[NDPhilly]

Bama signee Isaiah Bond (IMO #1 WR) told Loy he and his family loved ND and us (as well as OU) would have been contenders had we offered. Dartmouth, Duke, Vandy offers and visited as a Sophomore.

Imagine the 2 years of argument, hope and debate Del deprived us of here.

The best part about this is we were at the SAME DAMN SCHOOL recruiting Jake Pope! Unreal.

 

[T-Boone]

what the dell?

 

[T-Boone]

there is little chance this kid would have chosen ND. The only way he would have is if he really loved ND and if he did love ND he would have let the school know in some way that even Del would have made an effort.

 

[317Irish]

there is little chance this kid would have chosen ND. The only way he would have is if he really loved ND and if he did love ND he would have let the school know in some way that even Del would have made an effort.

Agreed. We hear all the time about recruits that fit exactly what ND is looking for, that say they are fans of ND, or understand ND, or whatever else that gives us hope, and they end up going to Ohio State or UCLA or some other BS school that makes no sense. Don’t follow their words, follow their actions.

 

[Dale]

Agreed. We hear all the time about recruits that fit exactly what ND is looking for, that say they are fans of ND, or understand ND, or whatever else that gives us hope, and they end up going to Ohio State or UCLA or some other BS school that makes no sense. Don’t follow their words, follow their actions.

Him going to ND isn’t the point, which is why I joked Del deprived of us of 2 years of drama. “Follow their actions” he camped at ND as an underclassmen, that’s intent to want an offer. We didn’t even offer. Idc that he wouldn’t go to ND. We didn’t offer is mind blowing.

 

[Dale]

Coming in 3rd or 4th is also more important in the portal era. What if Bond is the next Jameson Williams? Squeezed out of the Top 3 receivers and wanting to transfer? “Credits won’t transfer” yada yada but keeping relationships is important and we didn’t here.

 

[Dale]

To find a bit more color. He not only camped at ND but also visited for the Va Tech game. He’s an ATH and Terry Joseph was his recruiter. So he likely fell through the cracks when Joseph didn’t offer as lead and Del and company didn’t claim him on the offensive side when Joseph left. That would be my guess.

 

[T-Boone]

To find a bit more color. He not only camped at ND but also visited for the Va Tech game. He’s an ATH and Terry Joseph was his recruiter. So he likely fell through the cracks when Joseph didn’t offer as lead and Del and company didn’t claim him on the offensive side when Joseph left. That would be my guess.

Dang. WTDel.
Got to blame BK, Del, Rees.
Atrocious.
Hard to believe this would happen under Freeman with his fire for recruiting.

 

[ThePiombino]

there is little chance this kid would have chosen ND. The only way he would have is if he really loved ND and if he did love ND he would have let the school know in some way that even Del would have made an effort.

Agreed. We hear all the time about recruits that fit exactly what ND is looking for, that say they are fans of ND, or understand ND, or whatever else that gives us hope, and they end up going to Ohio State or UCLA or some other BS school that makes no sense. Don’t follow their words, follow their actions.

Be that as it may, you can't win if you don't play. Just fucking offer the kid. Dafuq.

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[Dale]

Final On3 Top 300

Sneed: 26
Wagner: 29
Tanona: 62
Schrauth: 87
Raridon: 91
Ford: 123
Mickey: 146
Burnham: 156 ???
Staes: 199
Merriweather: 218 ???
Gobaira: 270 ???

That leaves out Price, JR, and Chan most notably. They torpedoed Chan’s rating

 

[Irish4life]

Final On3 Top 300

Sneed: 26
Wagner: 29
Tanona: 62
Schrauth: 87
Raridon: 91
Ford: 123
Mickey: 146
Burnham: 156 ???
Staes: 199
Merriweather: 218 ???
Gobaira: 270 ???

Merriweather at 218 is criminal, but otherwise don't see anything egregiously bad.

 

[Dale]

I think they’ll end up being “higher” on Tanona, Wagner and Mickey than most. I don’t think anyone will drop Chan to the degree that they did. Merriweather should be higher.

A couple others like Burnham I disagree on but the gap isn’t as big.

 

[NDPhilly]

This class ended up at #6 in On3 composite rankings (average of all 4 sites) despite the loss of CJ Williams and Devin Moore. We signed a combined 18 4 & 5 stars.

If we can hover around 5-7 range for the next few years + an elite QB every other year, we'll be as close as we can reasonably expect ND to recruit in this NIL world.

In other news - Devin Moore ended up at #66 in the final 2022 rankings. Fucking ouch.

 

[bumpdaddy]

Final On3 Top 300

They torpedoed Chan’s rating

Yeah, and I'm guessing they did that solely based on his UA all-star week performance which is ridiculous. Chan had some rough practices along with a lot of other OLs since the drills always favor the DLs, but he played well in the game. I saw him give up one pressure on a bull rush and that was it. He handled his guy on every other snap and got to the 2nd level several times. He needs some refinement, no doubt, and there might have been some merit to dropping him a little bit based on his practice performances, but they shouldn't have tanked his ranking completely.

 

[Free Manera]

This class ended up at #6 in On3 composite rankings (average of all 4 sites) despite the loss of CJ Williams and Devin Moore. We signed a combined 18 4 & 5 stars.

If we can hover around 5-7 range for the next few years + an elite QB every other year, we'll be as close as we can reasonably expect ND to recruit in this NIL world.

In other news - Devin Moore ended up at #66 in the final 2022 rankings. Fucking ouch.

Yep. The data tells us that to have a chance at wining a championship, you need to have a top 10 class every year. To have a really a good chance, you need at least #1 class once every 4 years.

If ND can land top 5 or just outside top 5 every year, and maybe land a top 3 class once every four years, we got a shot.

 

[Dale]

Final On3 Top 300

Sneed: 26
Wagner: 29
Tanona: 62
Schrauth: 87
Raridon: 91
Ford: 123
Mickey: 146
Burnham: 156 ???
Staes: 199
Merriweather: 218 ???
Gobaira: 270 ???

That leaves out Price, JR, and Chan most notably. They torpedoed Chan’s rating

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/rivals/status/1486024636899164161?s=21[/TWEET]

Gobaira and Wagner biggest movers. 125 and and 72 spots. Ford also 55 spots, Merriweather 34, Burnham 38 and Schrauth 40 spots.

Final Rivals Top 250:

Sneed: 45
Ford: 50
Gobaira: 82
Schrauth: 85
Wagner: 124
Burnham: 125
Merriweather: 133
Tanona: 175
Mickey: 190
Raridon: 195
JR: 203
Chan: 218 (down 107, dudes getting crushed)
Price: 241

never had entertained Ford being second highest commit

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

This class ended up at #6 in On3 composite rankings (average of all 4 sites) despite the loss of CJ Williams and Devin Moore. We signed a combined 18 4 & 5 stars.

If we can hover around 5-7 range for the next few years + an elite QB every other year, we'll be as close as we can reasonably expect ND to recruit in this NIL world.

In other news - Devin Moore ended up at #66 in the final 2022 rankings. Fucking ouch.

I think this is NDs ceiling. 5-10 is about as good as we will do depending on the numbers taken each year. My hope is I think what MF will bring us is a more consistent ranking ranking in this level as opposed to to some terrible classes that BK managed to allow to happen

 

[irishog77]

I think this is NDs ceiling. 5-10 is about as good as we will do depending on the numbers taken each year. My hope is I think what MF will bring us is a more consistent ranking ranking in this level as opposed to to some terrible classes that BK managed to allow to happen

Agreed. But the bolded is an interesting point. ND doesn't HAVE to be at the tippy-top of the overall rankings each year, as they may be taking 2-6 less kids than some schools ranked ahead. But as long as they can grab multiple Top-100ish players and keep the aggregate player ranking high, they can compete for Natty's in that consistent 4-10 range.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Agreed. But the bolded is an interesting point. ND doesn't HAVE to be at the tippy-top of the overall rankings each year, as they may be taking 2-6 less kids than some schools ranked ahead. But as long as they can grab multiple Top-100ish players and keep the aggregate player ranking high, they can compete for Natty's in that consistent 4-10 range.

Right. To be clear under Bk we had some very bad classes that were not only small but less talented and with huge gaps in positions. My hope is that MF and Co. Can keep the quality very high and fill gaps regardless of class size allowable to be taken.

 

[Crazy Balki]

I think Rivals is the most consistent. They have some of the higher end guys rated lower than they should, but they're all pretty consistent.

On3 is mostly on point, particularly with the guys at the top, but boy, they have some REALLY head-scratching outliers. To say their rankings of Merriweather, Gobaira and Burnham are questionable would be a pretty significant understatement.

 

[Luckylucci]

Jamie U at ISD put out his final 2022 FAB 50 (top 50 rankings) with an article to discuss it.

https://irishsportsdaily.com/s/16959...022-isd-fab-50