2023 - State of the Recruiting Class

[Luckylucci]

I feel like ND needs to bring in 1-2 underclassmen WR transfers regardless if anyone leaves or not looking at the 2023 class for WR it isn’t a great WR class. I would rather not bring in 3 3 star guys to just have bodies

Like all things, it depends on the details, like who those players are.

But, this seems a little random.

Where are you coming up with 3, 3 star WR's?

I listed 5 names and then Tease was brought up for a 6th. None are 247 composite 3 stars so I'm not sure I get the point here. Yes, I would probably rather hit the transfer portal if we can't land anyone from the current board. But, I don't think that will happen. I think they'll be able to land a quality class. Will it be an elite class, that doesn't look likely at this time.

 

[Irishnuke]

Weren’t we supposedly the leaders for Brown at one point? I swear I remember reading that somewhere.

 

[ThePiombino]

I think a lot of us forget that Joe W is likely to come back. Its a win, he is proven, knows the system and plays all 3 spots. That being said, I still think we need to hit the portal for at least 1 if not 2.

I think the concern is 2023+, not so much 2022. If by some miracle, ND gets all of KA, BL, JW, and AD to return along with LS, DC, and JT then we're in GREAT shape for 2022. But at that point we're all hit guaranteed to lose all of the former group with only having the latter group, TM plus whatever unproven freshman for 2023.

 

[NDMIA]

2023 RB Recruiting Board (1-2 Spots)
.9915 5* Richard Young - FL - FAR - Never Visited
.9888 5* Rueben Owens - TX - FAR - Never Visited
.9779 4* Justice Haynes - GA - FAR - 6/23/21, 10/23/21
.9772 4* Dalton Brooks - TX - FAR - Never Visited
.9678 4* Cedric Baxter Jr. - FL - FAR - Never Visited
.9525 4* Treyaun Webb - FL - FAR - Never Visited
.9137 3* Kaden Feagin - IL - 3h40m - 6/6/21, 7/27/21, 10/2/21
.9129 4* Jayden Limar - WA - FAR - 10/23/21
.9122 4* Marquese Williams - PA - 8h30m - Never Visited
.9073 4* Sedrick Irvin - FL - FAR - 6/14/21 - COMMITTED

Picking up the Irvin commitment early is a big thing for this cycle because the pickings aren't enormous in this cycle. I think there are some interesting prospects here if ND hunts for a 2nd RB which I believe they will. Justice Haynes seems like the Gavin Sawchuk, Nicholas Singleton of this class with him being a top of the board target. For that next tier I'd hope to see Jayden Limar and Marquese Williams along with Kaden Feagin. Limar has Washington crystal balls but are from 8 months back before ND offered and he relatively quickly made the long trip for an unofficial to ND which, by all accounts, went really well! Marquese Williams apparently comes from a good school for ND and the thing lacking is a visit which can hopefully be changed soon. After that I think Kaden Feagin is a good prospect and different than Irvin. The drawbacks for him are that he doesn't seem to be incredibly highly recruited (8 offers although he might not report them all), he's not the most mobile dude which only hurts him because from what I've read I don't think Irvin is either so that wouldn't be ideal to have two slower dudes in the same cycle. Obviously a super long way to go with this cycle and Lance Taylor is off to a tremendous start by getting Haynes (twice) and Limar on campus as well as picking up Sedrick Irvin!

 

[NDIrish88]

2023 RB Recruiting Board (1-2 Spots)
.9915 5* Richard Young - FL - FAR - Never Visited
.9888 5* Rueben Owens - TX - FAR - Never Visited
.9779 4* Justice Haynes - GA - FAR - 6/23/21, 10/23/21
.9772 4* Dalton Brooks - TX - FAR - Never Visited
.9678 4* Cedric Baxter Jr. - FL - FAR - Never Visited
.9525 4* Treyaun Webb - FL - FAR - Never Visited
.9137 3* Kaden Feagin - IL - 3h40m - 6/6/21, 7/27/21, 10/2/21
.9129 4* Jayden Limar - WA - FAR - 10/23/21
.9122 4* Marquese Williams - PA - 8h30m - Never Visited
.9073 4* Sedrick Irvin - FL - FAR - 6/14/21 - COMMITTED

Picking up the Irvin commitment early is a big thing for this cycle because the pickings aren't enormous in this cycle. I think there are some interesting prospects here if ND hunts for a 2nd RB which I believe they will. Justice Haynes seems like the Gavin Sawchuk, Nicholas Singleton of this class with him being a top of the board target. For that next tier I'd hope to see Jayden Limar and Marquese Williams along with Kaden Feagin. Limar has Washington crystal balls but are from 8 months back before ND offered and he relatively quickly made the long trip for an unofficial to ND which, by all accounts, went really well! Marquese Williams apparently comes from a good school for ND and the thing lacking is a visit which can hopefully be changed soon. After that I think Kaden Feagin is a good prospect and different than Irvin. The drawbacks for him are that he doesn't seem to be incredibly highly recruited (8 offers although he might not report them all), he's not the most mobile dude which only hurts him because from what I've read I don't think Irvin is either so that wouldn't be ideal to have two slower dudes in the same cycle. Obviously a super long way to go with this cycle and Lance Taylor is off to a tremendous start by getting Haynes (twice) and Limar on campus as well as picking up Sedrick Irvin!

Williams is from a very pro ND school. Same HS as Ricky Watters. Also the coach is a giant ND fan. If he has the grades I think ND could get him. Problem is he has a very similar skillet and body type to Irvin.

 

[NDMIA]

2023 WR Recruiting Board (5-6 Spots)
.9938 5* Brandon Inniss - FL - FAR - Never Visited
.9895 4* Carnell Tate - IL - 1h30M - 3/20/21, 6/6/21, 6/18/21, 6/27/21, 10/2/21, 11/21/21
.9864 4* Jalen Hale - TX - FAR - Never Visited
.9845 4* Jalen Brown - FL - FAR - 6/22/21
.9814 4* Johntay Cook II - TX - FAR - Never Visited
.9799 4* Jaquaize Pettaway - TX - FAR - Never Visited
.9748 4* Noah Rogers - NC - FAR - Never Visited
.9737 4* Hykeem Williams - FL - FAR - Never Visited
.9645 4* Braylon James - TX - FAR - Never Visited
.9629 4* Rodney Gallagher - PA - 6h30m - Never Visited
.9543 4* Mikal Harrison-Pilot - TX - FAR - 7/27/21
.9455 4* Kyler Kasper - AZ - FAR - Never Visited (as a little kid he did)
.9422 4* Christian Hamilton - NC - FAR - Never Visited
.9358 4* Rico Flores - CA - FAR - Never Visited
.9072 3* Tyler Williams - FL - FAR - Never Visited
.9064 3* Malik Elzy - IL - 1h30m - 7/27/21, 9/18/21
.8914 3* Ronan Hanafin - MA - FAR - 11/6/21

The WR board is interesting. Obviously Tate is the big prize and I think Freeman being the HC helps a ton in terms of that recruitment because he'll join the Ryan Day level of HC recruiting that is required to land a WR target like that. However, that's for sure an uphill battle and I hope if it isn't Del the new WR coach is up for the challenge. The interesting part of this WR board is I've read on IE that ND's board isn't great which is interesting because the amount of "ND FITS" are pretty good on this board actually. Now, ND hasn't made much of a move with these dudes but I can't help but feel that if ND had a Hartline at WR's that Noah Rogers, Braylon James, Rodney Gallagher, Kyler Kasper, Christian Hamilton, and Rico Flores would all be super interested in ND and are definite fits. Rico Flores has IVY LEAGUE offers but there's nothing doing with his recruitment. Now, there's a long way to go until signing day and things can turn around but the excuse of there's not a good pool for ND to pick from DOES NOT FLY this cycle. Having said all that, I think ND could make some moves if they got Noah Rogers on campus and it sounds like from Singer and Loy that ND does have some mutual interest there. Jalen Brown was a victory to get him on campus and now the big task is to get him back since he cancelled his gameday visit. The spring is going to dictate quite a bit of how this board shakes out because ND has a ton of scholarships to fill and needs bodies big time! Right now their 2023 WR Roster looks like this:

ND 2023 Roster
6th 4* Kevin Austin
6th 4* Braden Lenzy
6th 3* Joe Wilkins Jr.
JR 4* Deion Colzie
JR 4* Lorenzo Styles Jr.
RS SO 4* Jayden Thomas
RS FR 4* Tobias Merriweather

The chances that the top 3 are actually around in 2023 are almost 0% imo. So basically ND needs an absolute ton of WR's in the 2023 class and can tell them that the best dude WILL see the field his freshmen year and maybe more. You could see 2-3 freshmen playing in 2023 because the depth and numbers are so poor. It is really a tough situation and that's why the rumors I hear of Del potentially coming back are troubling at best. Hopefully after the bowl game we see a little more clarity. Even if we had a microscopicly close roster to the one below we'd be GOOD:

OSU 2023 Roster
RS SR 4* Kamryn Babb
JR 5* Julian Fleming
JR 4* Jaxon Smith-Njigba
SO 5* Emeka Egbuka
SO 4* Marvin Harrison Jr.
RS FR 4* Jayden Ballard
FR 4* Caleb Burton
FR 4* Kaleb Brown
FR 4* Kyion Grayes
FR 4* Kojo Antwi

 

[ColinKSU]

2023 WR Recruiting Board (5-6 Spots)
.9938 5* Brandon Inniss - FL - FAR - Never Visited
.9895 4* Carnell Tate - IL - 1h30M - 3/20/21, 6/6/21, 6/18/21, 6/27/21, 10/2/21, 11/21/21
.9864 4* Jalen Hale - TX - FAR - Never Visited
.9845 4* Jalen Brown - FL - FAR - 6/22/21
.9814 4* Johntay Cook II - TX - FAR - Never Visited
.9799 4* Jaquaize Pettaway - TX - FAR - Never Visited
.9748 4* Noah Rogers - NC - FAR - Never Visited
.9737 4* Hykeem Williams - FL - FAR - Never Visited
.9645 4* Braylon James - TX - FAR - Never Visited
.9629 4* Rodney Gallagher - PA - 6h30m - Never Visited
.9543 4* Mikal Harrison-Pilot - TX - FAR - 7/27/21
.9455 4* Kyler Kasper - AZ - FAR - Never Visited (as a little kid he did)
.9422 4* Christian Hamilton - NC - FAR - Never Visited
.9358 4* Rico Flores - CA - FAR - Never Visited
.9072 3* Tyler Williams - FL - FAR - Never Visited
.9064 3* Malik Elzy - IL - 1h30m - 7/27/21, 9/18/21
.8914 3* Ronan Hanafin - MA - FAR - 11/6/21

The WR board is interesting. Obviously Tate is the big prize and I think Freeman being the HC helps a ton in terms of that recruitment because he'll join the Ryan Day level of HC recruiting that is required to land a WR target like that. However, that's for sure an uphill battle and I hope if it isn't Del the new WR coach is up for the challenge. The interesting part of this WR board is I've read on IE that ND's board isn't great which is interesting because the amount of "ND FITS" are pretty good on this board actually. Now, ND hasn't made much of a move with these dudes but I can't help but feel that if ND had a Hartline at WR's that Noah Rogers, Braylon James, Rodney Gallagher, Kyler Kasper, Christian Hamilton, and Rico Flores would all be super interested in ND and are definite fits. Rico Flores has IVY LEAGUE offers but there's nothing doing with his recruitment. Now, there's a long way to go until signing day and things can turn around but the excuse of there's not a good pool for ND to pick from DOES NOT FLY this cycle. Having said all that, I think ND could make some moves if they got Noah Rogers on campus and it sounds like from Singer and Loy that ND does have some mutual interest there. Jalen Brown was a victory to get him on campus and now the big task is to get him back since he cancelled his gameday visit. The spring is going to dictate quite a bit of how this board shakes out because ND has a ton of scholarships to fill and needs bodies big time! Right now their 2023 WR Roster looks like this:

ND 2023 Roster
6th 4* Kevin Austin
6th 4* Braden Lenzy
6th 3* Joe Wilkins Jr.
JR 4* Deion Colzie
JR 4* Lorenzo Styles Jr.
RS SO 4* Jayden Thomas
RS FR 4* Tobias Merriweather

The chances that the top 3 are actually around in 2023 are almost 0% imo. So basically ND needs an absolute ton of WR's in the 2023 class and can tell them that the best dude WILL see the field his freshmen year and maybe more. You could see 2-3 freshmen playing in 2023 because the depth and numbers are so poor. It is really a tough situation and that's why the rumors I hear of Del potentially coming back are troubling at best. Hopefully after the bowl game we see a little more clarity. Even if we had a microscopicly close roster to the one below we'd be GOOD:

OSU 2023 Roster
RS SR 4* Kamryn Babb
JR 5* Julian Fleming
JR 4* Jaxon Smith-Njigba
SO 5* Emeka Egbuka
SO 4* Marvin Harrison Jr.
RS FR 4* Jayden Ballard
FR 4* Caleb Burton
FR 4* Kaleb Brown
FR 4* Kyion Grayes
FR 4* Kojo Antwi

Great run down of the situation at the WR position. In all honestly, I think it's almost a guarantee that ND misses on quality and numbers again in the 2023 class if Del returns. He just isn't up to the task, and the situation at that position demands that the coach hit on the big fish, stay on top of everyone after they commit, and have multiple Plan B and C options if you miss or your commits become flaky.

It's a tremendously bad situation and it's weird that Freeman and Rees reportedly seem OK with it.

 

[NDMIA]

2023 TE Recruiting Board (5-6 Spots)
.9892 4* Duce Robinson - AZ - FAR - 6/7/21
.9638 4* Jaxon Howard - MN - 7h40m - 6/5/21
.9575 4* Mac Markway - MO - 5h40m - 6/18/21
.9522 4* Riley Williams - OR - FAR - Never Visited (NO OFFER)
.9211 4* Cooper Flanagan - CA - FAR - 6/12/21, 11/20/21 - COMMITTED

ND's in such an enviable spot with TE recruiting. They have 8 dudes projected on their roster for 2023 including Flanagan (Mayer will certainly be gone, very like Takacs as well unless he wants to be the dude as a 6th year but idk if he would be). Now they just big game hunt for Robinson, Howard, and Williams. I think it's an uphill battle that ND signs any of those guys but they have the numbers, talent and depth where they can focus their resources on a couple super talented guys and if they miss they can get a head start on the 2024 class at TE.

 

[NDMIA]

2023 OL BOARD (2-3 Projected Spots)
.9973 5* Kadyn Proctor - IA - 6h - 6/16/21, 10/23/21
.9832 4* Samson Okunlola - MA - FAR - Never Visited
.9749 4* Chase Bisontis - NJ - FAR - 6/6/21
.9682 4* Cayden Green - MO - 8h45m - 6/14/21
.9679 4* Harris Sewell - TX - FAR - 6/25/21
.9592 4* Charles Jagusah - IL - 3h45m - 10/23/21
.9578 4* Monroe Freeling - SC - FAR - 6/7/21, 10/2/21
.9497 4* TJ Shanahan - TX - FAR - Never Visited
.9452 4* Markis Deal - TX - FAR - Never Visited
.8934 3* Austin Siereveld - OH - 4h15m - Never Visited
.8638 3* Koby Keenum - AL - FAR - 10/30/21
NR 3* Sullivan Absher - NC - FAR - Never Visited
NR 3* Vysen Lang - AL - FAR - Never Visited

2023 Projected Roster Scholarships: 17

Obviously of the 17 I think Patterson, Dirksen and probably 1-2 more are not here by 2023. Either way though, I think it'll be a small OLine class for the new OLine coach. Whether that's Hiestand or anyone else idk. Kadyn Proctor is the icing if there's a recruiting cake at OLine and I think from the visits it looks like an Iowa, Iowa St, ND battle but there's 9 of the best programs in the country also in his top 12 so it'll be tough. The big victory is the 2 visits already and hopefully by the time he's deciding he's taken 3-4 visits to ND. Samson Okunlola seemed like a fit with his high academic offers but that seems to have gone no where. Actually similar story to TJ Shanahan. Both don't seem to have gone anywhere. Chase Bisontis is a huge one. He played games on saturdays for the most part so he wasn't around in the fall. From what I've read seems like a classic ND, PSU, OSU battle and Rutgers as the local addition. Would be a huge win to get him. Cayden Green is another one I think ND's got a shot at but needs a visit for sure and has an OU CB from Lincoln Riley's time. Sewell visited but I don't think he's leaving the state of Texas. Same with Markis Deal. Charles Jagusah is an interesting one because I've heard all of the right things and I think Loy is ready to CB him almost. Guy could be a visit away with the new OL coach from signing up. Monroe Freeling is another one that I think absolutely loves ND so I really hope the staff stays aggressively on him so he doesn't end up being lured to Clemson or some SEC school while ND is changing OLine coaches. Obviously ND has some more guys to mention like Siereveld, Keenum and Absher who are all interesting prospects and probably not rated because of not a lot of film. For now, I really hope ND goes all in on Proctor, Bisontis, Green, Jagusah, and Freeling and takes as many as want in for this group (hopefully 3 but if Proctor wants in you aren't turning a 1st Round Pick away).

An additional note for some guys that haven't been offered yet.

.9614 4* Madden Sanker - GA - FAR - Never Visited - not the worst thing to take some shorter OC/OG guys who are super talented. Also has Duke/Vandy offers
.9451 4* Olaus Alinen - FINLAND - FAR - Never Visited - Stanford offer and a BIG dude. Curious why ND isn't joining the party for him
.9237 4* Luke Brown - TN - 7h30m - Never Visited - Vandy/UVA offers. Don't know much about him other than a 4* with good books.

Whatever happens for 2023 in the OLine class I think the expectations can be pretty high and I think ND is in position to deliver on those high expectations because I think Quinn put ND in a good spot with a bunch of guys. Hopefully if it is Hiestand there is a plan in place to let him be the most effective recruiter he can be while having safety nets of a strong Asst OL coach recruiter or OC recruiter to make sure there's no lapse in communication with some of these recruits. Also, ND is at the healthiest it's been in forever in terms of depth, numbers, and talent at OLine while also being the best the program has been since Holtz was here in terms of winning. So all in all I think if Hiestand is the guy I think he'll be fine. At least I hope so!

 

[Dale]

I haven’t heard much but a mention from Singer, but they are supposed to have a Junior day type event after the season. I’d think we get some things shake out from that in 2023 class

 

[317Irish]

Thanks for putting these together NDMIA.

 

[NDMIA]

2023 QB Recruiting Board (1-2 Spots)
.9999 5* Arch Manning - LA - FAR - 6/??/21
.9949 5* Dante Moore - MI - 3h20m - 6/27/21, 7/27/21, 10/2/21
.9911 5* Nicholaus Iamaleava - CA - FAR - 9/18/21
.9664 4* Jackson Arnold - TX - FAR - 6/22/21, 10/30/21
.9598 4* Christopher Vizzina - AL - FAR - 6/17/21, 12/11/21
.9273 4* Avery Johnson - KS - FAR - 7/27/21

This is all about big game hunting for ND. They need a top 10 QB this cycle. Absolutely need it. As far as Moore, Nico, and Arnold I'm not sure who's the better fit, better chance to get, or best prospect. Vizzina is not a bad prospect either. The kid can definitely play. They are in decent shape with 4 of the top 8 QB's which is awesome and I hope in the spring they can get a commitment from one of them. The second part of the cycle is about hopefully getting a legit 2nd QB in the class. Not sure if they can get Vizzina and Arnold or some combo of top 10 dudes because they are just so heavily recruited but Avery Johnson is super talented and would be awesome as a 2nd QB in the class. LuckyLucci is completely right when he speaks about that 2nd QB can hopefully be a legit 2nd one and not a Ron Powlus III. Exciting stuff but most importantly hopefully they start with a big time QB like one of those top 8 dudes!

 

[NDMIA]

I'll do Defense at some point but offensive recruiting is huge for the 2023 cycle and it'll be interesting to see what kind of pressure Marcus Freeman puts on that side of the ball to come up with some elite talent for ND. Defensively ND is recruiting at an extremely high level and hopefully will go even higher in the 2023 cycle so we'll see what happens!

 

[Dale]

NDMIA coming for the Master List in pieces

 

[NDMIA]

NDMIA coming for the Master List in pieces

Just adding visits. For me it helps visualize who is actually in play versus who is just an offer. Don't have the time or knowledge to be able to do what BobbyMac does. He's elite.

 

[NDMIA]

2023 DL Recruiting Board (3-4 Spots)
.9988 5* Lebbeus Overton - GA - FAR - Never Visited
.9978 5* David Hicks - TX - FAR - 6/17/21
.9915 5* Samuel M'Pemba - MO - 5h30m - 10/2/21
.9904 5* Matayo Uiagalelei - CA - FAR - 11/7/20
.9895 4* Malik Bryant - FL - FAR - Never Visited
.9894 4* Keon Keeley - FL - FAR - 6/12/21, 10/30/21 - COMMITTED
.9893 4* Peter Woods - AL - FAR - Never Visited
.9884 4* Nyckoles Harbor - DC - FAR - Never Visited
.9853 4* Jayden Wayne - WA - FAR - 6/19/21
.9847 4* Vic Burley - GA - FAR - Never Visited
.9791 4* Jason Moore - MD - FAR - 10/30/21
.9746 4* Chandavian Bradley - MO - 8h30m - 6/1/21
.9713 4* Brenan Vernon - OH - 4h20m - 6/5/21, 10/23/21, 11/20/21 - COMMITTED
.9639 4* Avion Carter - TX - FAR - Never Visited
.9600 4* Derrick LeBlanc - FL - FAR - 7/27/21
.9585 4* Keldric Faulk - AL - FAR - Never Visited
.9549 4* John Walker - FL - FAR - Never Visited
.9376 4* Boubacar Traore - MA - FAR - Never Visited
.9336 4* Jalen Thompson - MI - 3h20m - 6/5/21
.9255 4* Hunter Osborne - AL - FAR - Never Visited
.9249 4* Dylan Gooden - MD - FAR - Never Visited
.8950 3* Kendrick Gilbert - IN - 2h20m - 6/6/21, 7/27/21
.8577 3* Stantavious Smith - GA - FAR - Never Visited
NR 3* Ashton Sanders - CA - FAR - 10/23/21
NR 3* Devan Houstan - MD - FAR - Never Visited
NR 3* Denzel Moore - GA - FAR - Never Visited
NR 3* Kennedy McDowell - TX - FAR - 6/6/21

Obviously an incredible start for Mike Elston and co on the DLine this cycle. Samuel M'Pemba out of St. Louis by way of IMG academy is super interested in ND and he would be the biggest prize in the class that is left. Jason Moore is at DeMatha and very interested in ND. Singer had mentioned that ND may lead or may have lead at one point. Chandavian Bradley is another super athlete that could be a fit and has been on campus. Boubacar Traore has been mentioned as a guy who if ND gets a visit then look out. He's committed to BC but if ND gets him to Indiana then look out for that one. ND's projected to be at 18 scholarships in 2023 with Keeley and Vernon committed so maybe 2 spots left in the class so ND can afford to be picky here. Another nugget is Nyckoles Harbor came back into play right around the time Freeman became HC. The point is, ND should have a very interesting spring for their DLine recruiting. I think the spring will be huge because Elston doesn't like to sit around with his scholarships. It'll be curious to see who out of this group joins the party. My hope/total guess is two of Samuel M'Pemba/Nyckoles Harbor/Jason Moore/Chandavian Bradley/Boubacar Traore. Also, remember that Keeley has taken a bunch of visits so ND needs to get him back on campus and stay all over him until December 2022!

 

[NDMIA]

2023 LB Recruiting Board (3-4 Spots)
.9832 4* Drayk Bowen - IN - 1h15m - 6/1/21, 7/27/21, 10/2/21, 10/23/21, 11/6/21, 11/20/21 - COMMITTED
.9824 4* Jaiden Ausberry - LA - FAR - 6/6/21
.9702 4* Tackett Curtis - LA - FAR - Never Visited
.9423 4* Ta'Mere Robinson - PA - 5h40m - 6/24/21
.9382 4* Tre Edwards - CA - FAR - Never Visited
.9297 4* Jayvant Brown - FL - FAR - Never Visited
.9111 4* Jaden Robinson - FL - FAR - Never Visited
.9061 4* Josiah Trotter - PA - FAR - 6/5/21
.8918 4* Preston Zinter - MA - FAR - 6/20/21, 7/27/21, 10/23/21
.8882 3* Phil Picciotti - PA - FAR - 11/6/21
.8667 3* Troy Ford - GA - FAR - 10/30/21

For the 2023 season, ND's LBer room looks like this:

6th Paul Moala
RS SR JD Bertrand
RS SR Jack Kiser
RS SR Marist Liufau
JR Prince Kollie
RS FR Jaylen Sneed
RS FR Joshua Burnham
RS FR Niuafe Tuihalamaka
RS FR Nolan Ziegler
FR Drayk Bowen

I don't think Freeman will end up with 4 LBers in this class again but from a numbers standpoint he could theoretically take 4 dudes and the numbers would work out so there's a 4 deep at each spot. Again, I don't think he'll do that but that's why I put the numbers in that area of 3-4. As for recruiting ND obviously got the big fish in Drayk Bowen and that was a huge huge win. I do think it is going to be tough sledding in this class to get elite level dudes because they're following up the best LBer class in the country. Of the top 250 guys (up from Jaden Robinson), I think ND's got really a shot at only Ta'Mere Robinson. Tre Edwards sounds interested and a good fit but I don't see Lincoln letting him get away from LA. Ta'Mere is a big one and it sure was disappointing that he never got to campus for a game in the fall but hopefully he's back on campus in the spring at some point. After that I'm not sure if ND has really completed their buildout of their board. Trotter, Zinter, Picciotti, and Ford are all interesting names and have all been to campus but not sure if they are A-level targets. Maybe some of them are but I'm not sure yet. It'll be interesting to see where Freeman goes with this and what his attack plan is for the spring with this position group. If you can stack two good classes together at LBer then ND will be set for a while at the position. That's where you start getting into the Alabama territory of getting big time recruits in every class at a position which causes huge competition. I have incredible confidence in Marcus Freeman! Name to keep an eye on and hopefully gets offered:

.9082 4* Grant Tucker - NC - FAR - Never Visited (Was on 10/23 list of visitors but didn't see him make it up)
Offers (10): Virginia Tech, UNC, Indiana, Tennessee, Penn State, Charlotte, Vandy, West Virginia, Maryland, East Carolina

 

[TorontoGold]

Really really like these posts NDMIA. You've joined the LL/BM/Dale group of must reads.

 

[NDIrish88]

2023 LB Recruiting Board (3-4 Spots)
.9832 4* Drayk Bowen - IN - 1h15m - 6/1/21, 7/27/21, 10/2/21, 10/23/21, 11/6/21, 11/20/21 - COMMITTED
.9824 4* Jaiden Ausberry - LA - FAR - 6/6/21
.9702 4* Tackett Curtis - LA - FAR - Never Visited
.9423 4* Ta'Mere Robinson - PA - 5h40m - 6/24/21
.9382 4* Tre Edwards - CA - FAR - Never Visited
.9297 4* Jayvant Brown - FL - FAR - Never Visited
.9111 4* Jaden Robinson - FL - FAR - Never Visited
.9061 4* Josiah Trotter - PA - FAR - 6/5/21
.8918 4* Preston Zinter - MA - FAR - 6/20/21, 7/27/21, 10/23/21
.8882 3* Phil Picciotti - PA - FAR - 11/6/21
.8667 3* Troy Ford - GA - FAR - 10/30/21

For the 2023 season, ND's LBer room looks like this:

6th Paul Moala
RS SR JD Bertrand
RS SR Jack Kiser
RS SR Marist Liufau
JR Prince Kollie
RS FR Jaylen Sneed
RS FR Joshua Burnham
RS FR Niuafe Tuihalamaka
RS FR Nolan Ziegler
FR Drayk Bowen

I don't think Freeman will end up with 4 LBers in this class again but from a numbers standpoint he could theoretically take 4 dudes and the numbers would work out so there's a 4 deep at each spot. Again, I don't think he'll do that but that's why I put the numbers in that area of 3-4. As for recruiting ND obviously got the big fish in Drayk Bowen and that was a huge huge win. I do think it is going to be tough sledding in this class to get elite level dudes because they're following up the best LBer class in the country. Of the top 250 guys (up from Jaden Robinson), I think ND's got really a shot at only Ta'Mere Robinson. Tre Edwards sounds interested and a good fit but I don't see Lincoln letting him get away from LA. Ta'Mere is a big one and it sure was disappointing that he never got to campus for a game in the fall but hopefully he's back on campus in the spring at some point. After that I'm not sure if ND has really completed their buildout of their board. Trotter, Zinter, Picciotti, and Ford are all interesting names and have all been to campus but not sure if they are A-level targets. Maybe some of them are but I'm not sure yet. It'll be interesting to see where Freeman goes with this and what his attack plan is for the spring with this position group. If you can stack two good classes together at LBer then ND will be set for a while at the position. That's where you start getting into the Alabama territory of getting big time recruits in every class at a position which causes huge competition. I have incredible confidence in Marcus Freeman! Name to keep an eye on and hopefully gets offered:

.9082 4* Grant Tucker - NC - FAR - Never Visited (Was on 10/23 list of visitors but didn't see him make it up)
Offers (10): Virginia Tech, UNC, Indiana, Tennessee, Penn State, Charlotte, Vandy, West Virginia, Maryland, East Carolina

Can Kaedin Faegin play LB? ON3 has him rated as such, and quite high as well

 

[fightingirish26]

Singer put in ND picks for Jagusah and Jason Moore.

Don't think there is an easy way to see a list of these predictions on the on3 site, but I do believe you can view them publicly if you click through the individual player profiles.

 

[NDVirginia19]

With Peyton Bowen committing, that puts us at 4 (not including Rhett at 101) top 100 players. ND just had one in 2022, and 3 in 2021. This class is going to be awesome.

 

[NDVirginia19]

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[irish o'phile]

Average rating of 95.19 on 247. This class is mind blowing so far.

 

[ThePiombino]

Average rating of 95.19 on 247. This class is mind blowing so far.

Imagine if the offense started pulling its weight.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

I said a while back that this years class would end up around 6-10. After ESP it’s at what 6? Probably on signing day may be 7-8 after all teams classes are signed. We will need multiple classes in the top five and retain depth to be competitive and challenge for championships. I just don’t see ND getting to that level regardless of the coach.

This class currently at number 1 will not be number one at the end of the cycle. I’m hoping it’s higher than 6 but I’m thinking it will end up more like this years class at 6-10.

Not only are gonna have to continue to bring in top recruits. But also fend off tampering for our current committed recruits.

 

[irishff1014]

I said a while back that this years class would end up around 6-10. After ESP it’s at what 6? Probably on signing day may be 7-8 after all teams classes are signed. We will need multiple classes in the top five and retain depth to be competitive and challenge for championships. I just don’t see ND getting to that level regardless of the coach.

This class currently at number 1 will not be number one at the end of the cycle. I’m hoping it’s higher than 6 but I’m thinking it will end up more like this years class at 6-10.

Not only are gonna have to continue to bring in top recruits. But also fend off tampering for our current committed recruits.

You again are 100% correct. Between us losing again in prime time while being up by 21 points and the NIL that ND won’t ever be able to compete with. When the team steps on the field they just don’t play with that I want to demolish you attitude.

Freeman is a good recruiter but they are going a have their hands full. Looking at the schedule next year this is probably an 8-4 team that is going to get t-bagged in the first game of the season. Top recruits want to win a championship and I don’t believe ND will ever win another one. We keep say oh this recruiting class and then say well it be this recruiting class.

ND will be a top 8-12 team and we need to accept that.

 

[ColinKSU]

Imagine if the offense started pulling its weight.

Freeman is going to have to be extremely hands-on with that side of the ball, because I don’t think the OC takes recruiting as seriously as he needs to.

 

[Sea Turtle]

You again are 100% correct. Between us losing again in prime time while being up by 21 points and the NIL that ND won’t ever be able to compete with. When the team steps on the field they just don’t play with that I want to demolish you attitude.

Freeman is a good recruiter but they are going a have their hands full. Looking at the schedule next year this is probably an 8-4 team that is going to get t-bagged in the first game of the season. Top recruits want to win a championship and I don’t believe ND will ever win another one. We keep say oh this recruiting class and then say well it be this recruiting class.

ND will be a top 8-12 team and we need to accept that.

Pretty spot on.

 

[Dale]

Freeman is going to have to be extremely hands-on with that side of the ball, because I don’t think the OC takes recruiting as seriously as he needs to.

The current roster has more offensive recruiting talent than the D. The 2022 class had 9 blue chip commits on O, 8 on D. Freeman got us going fantastic for 2023 so far, don’t see why that needs to come out as a negative on Rees, especially considering the narrative overall is false. Rees is trying to start the 2023 class and end 2022 with no WR coach or OL coach. He’s not a perfect recruiter. He’s not Freeman. But he’s also not what people try to make him out to be.

 

[T-Boone]

The current roster has more offensive recruiting talent than the D. The 2022 class had 9 blue chip commits on O, 8 on D. Freeman got us going fantastic for 2023 so far, don’t see why that needs to come out as a negative on Rees, especially considering the narrative overall is false. Rees is trying to start the 2023 class and end 2022 with no WR coach or OL coach. He’s not a perfect recruiter. He’s not Freeman. But he’s also not what people try to make him out to be.

He isn't a good enough QB or WR recruiter. He needs to get a lot better.