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[Blazers46]

In no way did I contradict him. If you're saying that my cousins trying to show me a cartoon show that would introduce me to topics/words that I would find out in a couple years later is some of "gotcha" - lmao

What a horrible scenario that would be, god forbid they read a book on acceptance. What is the worst they could find out in the book? Statistically, someone in your extended family is going to be gay/LGBTQ, how do you explain to them that Uncle Jim has a husband?

You did. Gower's point was if a parent just simply did not buy it you can control what you kid sees/reads. You eloquently gave an example of a scenario where a parent was not present and in the care of another. Ren and Stimpy was the example but Ren and Stimpy could easily be the Gay BCs or porn or whatever else. All things I'd rather not see pushed/made for kids.

 

[Blazers46]

No, but I was raised by 2 good parents. My parents didn't want me looking at porn, still got my hands on a copy of Playboy in 5th grade because that's what kids do. However, as a parent you still have the greatest control on what your kids learn, see, watch, read, etc. Just remember, they're gonna see things in life without you to stop them because you don't like it.

Exactly. So if it the GAY BCs never exisited it would be easier to control.

 

[Blazers46]

What if this is the actual problem?

May I parent my kids the way I see please? Or am I to parent them the way you want?

 

[Rocket89]

May I parent my kids the way I see please? Or am I to parent them the way you want?

Do you see it as a problem if your child sees a book about black children, or a book about children with special needs, or a book about children with disabilities?

If not, please explain the difference between those books and the Gay BC's.

 

[Blazers46]

No, but I was raised by 2 good parents. My parents didn't want me looking at porn, still got my hands on a copy of Playboy in 5th grade because that's what kids do. However, as a parent you still have the greatest control on what your kids learn, see, watch, read, etc. Just remember, they're gonna see things in life without you to stop them because you don't like it.

Maybe he is maybe he's not, but I can guarantee he won't be outsmarted by a 4/7 year old child.

Again, you guys contradict one another. Get on the same page please.

 

[Blazers46]

Do you see it as a problem if your child sees a book about black children, or a book about children with special needs, or a book about children with disabilities?

If not, please explain the difference between those books and the Gay BC's.

So you are equating gays and black people with people with special needs and disabilities.... you said it, not me.

Sort of Sleepy Joe vibe... are poor kids just as capable as white kids?

 

[NorthDakota]

What if this is the actual problem?

The last thing I'd characterize someone wanting to protect young impressionable minds from propaganda as.

There is a big difference between parents/schools trying to stop their teen kids from reading Catcher in the Rye and teaching toddlers about sexuality.

 

[TorontoGold]

Again, you guys contradict one another. Get on the same page please.

lmao, no we don't.

You're acting like a child seeing a book (who knows if this scenario is even real...) and probably thinking nothing of it is this great injustice. The fact you're at loss for how to deal with it, proves my point that you had quoted.

We've both mentioned that kids will see what they want, I agree with Gower that as a parent you can limit the availability of material they see. ESPECIALLY if they're 4/7 years old. My example of Ren and Stimpy was when I was at least 9/10.

If you can't control what a very young child sees, then yikes dude.

 

[Rocket89]

So you are equating gays and black people with people with special needs and disabilities.... you said it, not me.

Yes, I am equating them all for children learning about people different from them.

are poor kids just as capable as white kids?

Slip of the tongue perhaps? White kids can't be poor? Poor kids can be as capable as non-poor kids, although many are disadvantaged.

You haven't answered my question.

 

[Rocket89]

The last thing I'd characterize someone wanting to protect young impressionable minds from propaganda as.

There is a big difference between parents/schools trying to stop their teen kids from reading Catcher in the Rye and teaching toddlers about sexuality.

Propaganda, okay sure. I often say to myself once North Dakota enters the discussion to defend someone they're argument is toast. So, hello.

 

[TorontoGold]

The last thing I'd characterize someone wanting to protect young impressionable minds from propaganda as.

There is a big difference between parents/schools trying to stop their teen kids from reading Catcher in the Rye and teaching toddlers about sexuality.

The Gay Agenda we must protect young cleatus from reading the horrors of the gay agenda.

 

[NorthDakota]

Propaganda, okay sure. I often say to myself once North Dakota enters the discussion to defend someone they're argument is toast. So, hello.

lolol if you are talking to yourself that's rarely a good sign. Get the help you need.

 

[Blazers46]

Yes, I am equating them all for children learning about people different from them.



Slip of the tongue perhaps? White kids can't be poor? Poor kids can be as capable as non-poor kids, although many are disadvantaged.

You haven't answered my question.

Ask Joe.

There is nothing WRONG with being black or having a disability. But in my opinion (based on religious views and opinions) being Gay is wrong.

 

[BrownerandFry]

Sounds like a bunch of city officials who had no idea what that movie has done for the city decided it wasn't "art" and had it moved to the Spectrum before the building was torn down. At some point it was moved to a side garden around the corner from the museum I think.

"After filming was complete, a debate arose between the Art Museum and Philadelphia's Art Commission over the meaning of "art". City officials, who argued that the Rocky statue was not "art" but a "movie prop", eventually moved it to the front of the Philadelphia Spectrum."

The Spectrum? Well, I have seen art at the spectrum

Julius Erving, et al.

But my favorite is the night I was in the Spectrum on May 26, 1977. the fight that started between Bobby Gross and Dawkins, and then Mo Lucas intervened.

Violence as performance art. THAT was art, in a Guernica kind of way.

Dawkins, a wonderful player, who was a gentle giant, got pissed for one of the few times in his llife.

.He went into the 6ers locker room and ripped a commode off its moorings!

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and here, in the name of Paul Harvey is the "rest of the story./"
After filming was complete, a debate arose between the Art Museum and Philadelphia's Art Commission over the meaning of "art". City officials, who argued that the Rocky statue was not "art" but a "movie prop", eventually moved it to the front of the Philadelphia Spectrum.[SUP][5][/SUP]

It was later returned to the Art Museum for the filming of Rocky V, then brought back to the Spectrum. The statue was replaced with a bronze inlay of Converse sneaker footprints with the name "Rocky" above them.[SUP][6][/SUP]

On September 8, 2006, the Rocky statue was returned to the Art Museum and placed on a pedestal in a grassy area near the foot of the steps to the right of the Museum. The unveiling ceremony included live music, the debut of the first full trailer for Rocky Balboa, and a free showing of the first Rocky movie. At the ceremony, Philadelphia Mayor John Street said that the steps were one of Philly's biggest tourist attractions, and that Stallone, a native New Yorker, had become "the city's favorite adopted son".[SUP][7][/SUP]

Clearly the placement of the statue was all about Philly tourism, and Had NOTHING to do with the subsequent iterations of Rocky movies..

Yeah, right.
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[Blazers46]

The Gay Agenda we must protect young cleatus from reading the horrors of the gay agenda.

I assume this is like calling me Karen, but calling my kids Cleatus?

 

[TorontoGold]

I assume this is like calling me Karen, but calling my kids Cleatus?

Did I @ you?

 

[Rocket89]

But in my opinion (based on religious views and opinions) being Gay is wrong.

Right, that's all we need to see here. Best of luck to you if any of your kids are LGBTQ--or statistically much more likely--think you're wrong.

 

[GowerND11]

Exactly. So if it the GAY BCs never exisited it would be easier to control.

Do you feel the same about Playboy? Or about iPhones? Computers?

You control what you can as a parent. You can't expect everything in the world to fit your worldview...

 

[Blazers46]

lmao, no we don't.

You're acting like a child seeing a book (who knows if this scenario is even real...) and probably thinking nothing of it is this great injustice. The fact you're at loss for how to deal with it, proves my point that you had quoted.

We've both mentioned that kids will see what they want, I agree with Gower that as a parent you can limit the availability of material they see. ESPECIALLY if they're 4/7 years old. My example of Ren and Stimpy was when I was at least 9/10.

If you can't control what a very young child sees, then yikes dude.

You are doing a lot of assuming. Just because someone posts something doesn't mean their house is on fire. Sometimes its just rolling the discussion along.

And to the bolded, again we were in the child book section. Books about numbers letters shapes and gays.... one of them don't belong. Lesson learned.

 

[Blazers46]

Right, that's all we need to see here. Best of luck to you if any of your kids are LGBTQ--or statistically much more likely--think you're wrong.

But yet you already probably knew this. Thanks for being tolerant of my religious beliefs and opinions.

 

[Blazers46]

Do you feel the same about Playboy? Or about iPhones? Computers?

You control what you can as a parent. You can't expect everything in the world to fit your worldview...

Playboy, Iphones and Computers are not in the same sections as coloring books.

 

[Blazers46]

Did I @ you?

Calling Dakota Karen and his kids Cleatus, got it.

 

[GowerND11]

Playboy, Iphones and Computers are not in the same sections as coloring books.

Right, but you didn't answer the question. Kids can still see "bad things" on them. Seems they should be banned like these books should be too. Don't want people to influence your kids, right?

 

[TorontoGold]

Calling Dakota Karen and his kids Cleatus, got it.

Used italics to exaggerate making fun of the "Gay Agenda" fear. ND is bright enough to know I didn't call him Karen our yung ND cleatus, he doesn't practice victimhood.

 

[Blazers46]

Right, but you didn't answer the question. Kids can still see "bad things" on them. Seems they should be banned like these books should be too. Don't want people to influence your kids, right?

They can still see bad things, yes. But my kids go nowhere near Playboys, they only use the computer/phone supervised. Again... the crux of the problem is that this Gay BC book was sitting next to books geared toward 4-7 year old kids. Sure the book existing is also a problem buts its placement is just as problematic.

 

[Rocket89]

Playboy, Iphones and Computers are not in the same sections as coloring books.

Since being gay is wrong does a gay book belong in any section of the bookstore??

Also, if your kid saw the book are you afraid they’d catch the gay?

 

[TorontoGold]

They can still see bad things, yes. But my kids go nowhere near Playboys, they only use the computer/phone supervised. Again... the crux of the problem is that this Gay BC book was sitting next to books geared toward 4-7 year old kids. Sure the book existing is also a problem buts its placement is just as problematic.

If the book existing is a problem, are gay people existing a problem?

 

[Blazers46]

Used italics to exaggerate making fun of the "Gay Agenda" fear. ND is bright enough to know I didn't call him Karen our yung ND cleatus, he doesn't practice victimhood.

You can call me whatever you want. I've been called lots of things on this board. You are the sissy that made a big thing about being called Cack. Notice the italics so take no offense.

 

[Rocket89]

But yet you already probably knew this. Thanks for being tolerant of my religious beliefs and opinions.

Eh, a lot of terrible shit in this world has been wrapped up in tolerance of religious views.

 

[Blazers46]

If the book existing is a problem, are gay people existing a problem?

Thats a stretch. Went from a book existing to wanting gay PEOPLE to disappear. Wow. Did you play connect the dots as a kid? Probably weren't very good at it.