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[TorontoGold]

It’s not a joke or satire. It’s like singing a song about defunding police, or trans in the Olympics. Not one word of their song was exaggerated or wrong in the context of their messaging or motives.

I see it more of a victory lap than anything. It may have been made to upset people but nothing about it was satire.

satire - the use of humor, irony, exaggeration, or ridicule to expose and criticize people's stupidity or vices, particularly in the context of contemporary politics and other topical issues.

The song is basically admitting and saying out loud what most won’t.

Yes, gay people are coming for your kids. Totally logical belief.

 

[TDHeysus]

Same guy who said this, right? "because joking about coming for children is always funny...in any context."

are you suggesting the AOC is a child?

 

[TorontoGold]

are you suggesting the AOC is a child?

Just confirming that the same person who was upset at that satirical song is a-ok calling women whores. Keep on keeping on.

 

[TDHeysus]

Just confirming that the same person who was upset at that satirical song is a-ok calling women whores. Keep on keeping on.

so you equate under age children with elected officials? got it. No wonder you cant see a problem when children are verbally attacked.

 

[TorontoGold]

so you equate under age children with elected officials? got it. No wonder you cant see a problem when children are verbally attacked.

Yes, the song was to be taken literally and certainly not to show how easy it is to rile up the far-right.

 

[TDHeysus]

just thought I'd put this here, and nope I will not give out any links to it - if you are so inclined, you will need to do the research yourself.

this quote is paraphrased and certain words have been changed so that some snowflakes feelings dont get hurt.

Malcolm X quote - Paraphrased:
“The white liberal is the worst enemy to America, and the worst enemy to the black man.....The white liberal aren’t white people who are for independence, who are moral and ethical in their thinking. They are just a faction of white people that are jockeying for power. The same as the white conservative is a faction of white people that are jockeying for power......The liberal elements of whites are those who have perfected the art of selling themselves to the 'black community' as a friend of the 'black community'. Getting sympathy of the 'black community', getting the allegiance of the 'black community', and getting the mind of the 'black community'. Then the 'black community' sides with the white liberal, and the white liberal use the 'black community' against the white conservative. So that anything that the 'black community' does is never for his own good, never for his own advancement, never for his own progress, he’s only a pawn in the hands of the white liberal. The worst enemy that the 'black community' have is this white man that runs around here drooling at the mouth professing to love 'black community', and calling himself a liberal, and it is following these white liberals that has perpetuated problems that 'black community' have...."


He also has some interesting things to say about Hollywood celebrities and sports stars....I'd encourage anyone to do their own research and find out

 

[TDHeysus]

Yes, the song was to be taken literally and certainly not to show how easy it is to rile up the far-right.

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[Irish#1]

Just confirming that the same person who was upset at that satirical song is a-ok calling women whores. Keep on keeping on.

I'm guessing you might be the only one who thought it was satirical, because it's been pulled from You Tube.

 

[TorontoGold]

I'm guessing you might be the only one who thought it was satirical, because it's been pulled from You Tube.

Nah, nope, far-left liberal media org Yahoo News disagrees - https://ca.news.yahoo.com/san-franc...oloists-received-death-threats-220837705.html

The performance pokes fun at age-old anti-gay myths: that gay men are child molesters and that that they are out to "recruit" — a narrative kicked off over 40 years ago by the anti-gay crusader Anita Bryant, the born-again beauty queen and spokeswoman for Florida orange juice who pushed the damaging propaganda with her Save the Children group.

Sometimes the easiest answer is the obvious answer; it isn't censorship and it hasn't hate speech.

 

[TDHeysus]

https://www.republicworld.com/entert...ial-video.html

Nickelodeon is the same trash as disney and anyone else who thinks its ok to indoctrinate/sell sexuality to children. They are complete garbage, no room for negotiation.

They expect parents to allow their children to watch disney and nickelodeon 'unchecked' because in parents' eyes, these are safe outlets because many parents grew up watching them themselves. This is not a coincidence, its part of a carefully executed plan.

Keep this in mind when Disney (and hollywood in general) remakes past movies - its an attempt to get their political messaging out in a vehicle that will largely escape scrutiny...

They know parents (and people in general) will be like, "its just a remake of Lady and the Tramp", " I loved that movie as a kid".

 

[Irish#1]

Nah, nope, far-left liberal media org Yahoo News disagrees - https://ca.news.yahoo.com/san-franc...oloists-received-death-threats-220837705.html



Sometimes the easiest answer is the obvious answer; it isn't censorship and it hasn't hate speech.

Well there you go. You and and editor at Yahoo are okay with it. You okay with Al Jolson singing mammy in black face because that's satirical?

 

[Irish#1]

https://www.republicworld.com/entert...ial-video.html

Nickelodeon is the same trash as disney and anyone else who thinks its ok to indoctrinate/sell sexuality to children. They are complete garbage, no room for negotiation.

They expect parents to allow their children to watch disney and nickelodeon 'unchecked' because in parents' eyes, these are safe outlets because many parents grew up watching them themselves. This is not a coincidence, its part of a carefully executed plan.

Keep this in mind when Disney (and hollywood in general) remakes past movies - its an attempt to get their political messaging out in a vehicle that will largely escape scrutiny...

They know parents (and people in general) will be like, "its just a remake of Lady and the Tramp", " I loved that movie as a kid".

You have to wonder how long they'll stay woke if they continue to lose audience?

 

[Blazers46]

Yes, gay people are coming for your kids. Totally logical belief.

I dont think its a secret what the plan is. They have basically told everyone what their plan is and what it has been for decades. From the "War conference" of 1988 to present and even further back. The plan has always been PR and just beating the message into everyones heads until everyone becomes desensitized. in addition schools and many child centered educational institutions having material readily available telling kids how to handle being gay and parents not knowing. Also you would be living under a rock if you have not seen or read articles about elementary curriculum or activities designed to teach and educate the liberal agenda in regard to LGBTQ. Drag queen story times.... I mean... where have you been? These are just things off the top of my head. I am sure you would love the freedom to raise your children how you see fit so why not let me do the same.

Remember when schools primarily taught things like reading, writing, math, science...? The US spends the most per child to educate but gets some of the worst results.

 

[TorontoGold]

Well there you go. You and and editor at Yahoo are okay with it. You okay with Al Jolson singing mammy in black face because that's satirical?

You've missed the point, entirely. Al Jolson is a white guy wearing black face. Not at all the same as a gay choir making fun of the scared conservatives that think that gay people are going to convert their children. It shouldn't be this hard.

 

[Blazers46]

You've missed the point, entirely. Al Jolson is a white guy wearing black face. Not at all the same as a gay choir making fun of the scared conservatives that think that gay people are going to convert their children. It shouldn't be this hard.

but its just satire....

 

[TorontoGold]

I dont think its a secret what the plan is. They have basically told everyone what their plan is and what it has been for decades. From the "War conference" of 1988 to present and even further back. The plan has always been PR and just beating the message into everyones heads until everyone becomes desensitized. in addition schools and many child centered educational institutions having material readily available telling kids how to handle being gay and parents not knowing. Also you would be living under a rock if you have not seen or read articles about elementary curriculum or activities designed to teach and educate the liberal agenda in regard to LGBTQ. Drag queen story times.... I mean... where have you been? These are just things off the top of my head. I am sure you would love the freedom to raise your children how you see fit so why not let me do the same.

Remember when schools primarily taught things like reading, writing, math, science...? The US spends the most per child to educate but gets some of the worst results.

If a child is gay or whatever, how should they be educated on how they are feeling? Let's say their parent is scared of gay people and they live in a state that is the middle of nowhere, how are they supposed to come to grips with their situation? What would be the solution to making them more comfortable.

I'm sure that's got something to do with terrible parenting at home as well. Raising a child in a household that hates higher education, will only lead to a ignorant populous.

 

[Blazers46]

If a child is gay or whatever, how should they be educated on how they are feeling? Let's say their parent is scared of gay people and they live in a state that is the middle of nowhere, how are they supposed to come to grips with their situation? What would be the solution to making them more comfortable.

I'm sure that's got something to do with terrible parenting at home as well. Raising a child in a household that hates higher education, will only lead to a ignorant populous.

Scared of gay people? You just went off on a planet I am unaware of.

When you say "they" in regard to "how should they educate", are you talking about the parent or the government school system? Its sounds like we have a completely different expectation about what the schools purpose is. My expectation is for my kid to learn to read and do math. Government should not be educating my kids or anyone's kids on "feelings". I learned pretty quick that my penis was made to be inserted inside a vagina without going to a teacher to discuss my feelings on the matter.

As a former social worker there are a lot of issues with schools playing the role of teaching feelings and trying to do their own school government social work. First its not client or child focused at all. Its a one size fits all type of instruction that will undoubtedly cause more harm than good. For example kids with anger issues are giving coping skills at school that will rarely follow them at home. Teaching them about being gay without any context of race, culture, religion leaves them open for just more confusion. A schools job is to educate. Bad parenting should be left to the other failing government agency called child services.

 

[TDHeysus]

If a child is gay or whatever, how should they be educated on how they are feeling? Let's say their parent is scared of gay people and they live in a state that is the middle of nowhere, how are they supposed to come to grips with their situation? What would be the solution to making them more comfortable.

I'm sure that's got something to do with terrible parenting at home as well. Raising a child in a household that hates higher education, will only lead to a ignorant populous.

here we see the leftist make their pitch on how they can raise your children better than you can. inevitably this will lead to legislation where big government can come in and 'save your children' from their dreaded, evil parents in the name of protecting the world. You cant see it right off the bat, but they are doing God's work, saving humanity one drag queen at a time. They are just and virtuous!

its for the children for pete's sake! who could possibly be against saving children???~

 

[Blazers46]

here we see the leftist make their pitch on how they can raise your children better than you can. inevitably this will lead to legislation where big government can come in and 'save your children' from their dreaded, evil parents in the name of protecting the world. You cant see it right off the bat, but they are doing God's work, saving humanity one drag queen at a time. They are just and virtuous!

its for the children for pete's sake! who could possibly be against saving children???~

Takes a village to a raise a child... a government village

 

[TorontoGold]

Scared of gay people? You just went off on a planet I am unaware of.

When you say "they" in regard to "how should they educate", are you talking about the parent or the government school system? Its sounds like we have a completely different expectation about what the schools purpose is. My expectation is for my kid to learn to read and do math. Government should not be educating my kids or anyone's kids on "feelings". I learned pretty quick that my penis was made to be inserted inside a vagina without going to a teacher to discuss my feelings on the matter.

As a former social worker there are a lot of issues with schools playing the role of teaching feelings and trying to do their own school government social work. First its not client or child focused at all. Its a one size fits all type of instruction that will undoubtedly cause more harm than good. For example kids with anger issues are giving coping skills at school that will rarely follow them at home. Teaching them about being gay without any context of race, culture, religion leaves them open for just more confusion. A schools job is to educate. Bad parenting should be left to the other failing government agency called child services.

Maybe around puberty, or when they start teaching "health" class, they can always just add in a segment on "if you're feeling this way you can get resources on it from a school guidance counselor". No idea if they're using those kind of strategies in school but would likely help kids out and help with acceptance. No idea how you help the kids with deadbeat parents who think LGBTQ people are the devil.

 

[TorontoGold]

here we see the leftist make their pitch on how they can raise your children better than you can. inevitably this will lead to legislation where big government can come in and 'save your children' from their dreaded, evil parents in the name of protecting the world. You cant see it right off the bat, but they are doing God's work, saving humanity one drag queen at a time. They are just and virtuous!

its for the children for pete's sake! who could possibly be against saving children???~

Don't need to make a pitch. With your body of "work" it's quite clear. Having so much hate towards a group of people will only lead to alienation from society.

 

[TDHeysus]

Don't need to make a pitch. With your body of "work" it's quite clear. Having so much hate towards a group of people will only lead to alienation from society.

this is where the leftist attempt to apply labels to opposing opinions in an attempt to silence that opinion. Leftist participate in group-think where all constituents MUST have the same opinion or be silenced/shamed/banned. Modern day leftists label any opposing opinion as 'hate speech' in the attempt to sway the part of the group-think that do not do their own research.

Make no mistake (or in your case an attempt to confuse/obfuscate the truth) with the target of my opinions, it's modern day leftists not the gay community. Absolutely not one word I have said has been anti-gay in anyway. It's anti-leftist, anti-pedo and is steadfast in nature.

 

[TorontoGold]

this is where the leftist attempt to apply labels to opposing opinions in an attempt to silence that opinion. Leftist participate in group-think where all constituents MUST have the same opinion or be silenced/shamed/banned. Modern day leftists label any opposing opinion as 'hate speech' in the attempt to sway the part of the group-think that do not do their own research.

Make no mistake (or in your case an attempt to confuse/obfuscate the truth) with the target of my opinions, it's modern day leftists not the gay community. Absolutely not one word I have said has been anti-gay in anyway. It's anti-leftist, anti-pedo and is steadfast in nature.

Yikes man. Lot of resentment towards Leftists, not healthy to hate a group that much.

Yep, not anti-gay just they're not allowed representation.

 

[TDHeysus]

Yikes man. Lot of resentment towards Leftists, not healthy to hate a group that much.

Yep, not anti-gay just they're not allowed representation.

is that all you got? you just basically doubled-down on your last statement. to that I say, "see my previous post", my anti-leftist, anti-pedo stance is a double donkey punch to your gut.



The last thing the modern day leftist will do when attempting any type of discourse is to play the victim card.

 

[TDHeysus]

Lefty Debate Logic:

moral authority (look for the smarmy smirk)
faux outrage (a calculated over-reaction at something you say; meant to gain sympathizers)
conflation (this happens when they cannot answer your specific question/position)
strawman fallacy (attempt to explain your question/position, with something easier for them to explain away; but never answering your question/position)
race card (they are looking for 'an out' by attempting to squash free speech; they want to leave the discussion)
victim card (they know they lost, and begin virtue signaling. they think they are going to humiliate you into being quiet.)

thats is how EVERY single leftists will approach a 'debate'. Know their formula, identify each part as they do it in debate; then learn how to deconstruct them at every point. It becomes easy, and you can see them coming. Eventually, you know the 'the left's position' better than ppl on the 'left' do.

 

[TorontoGold]

is that all you got? you just basically doubled-down on your last statement. to that I say, "see my previous post", my anti-leftist, anti-pedo stance is a double donkey punch to your gut.



The last thing the modern day leftist will do when attempting any type of discourse is to play the victim card.

More substance with Blazers, he's got more in the tank. Don't want to get too bothered about low T discount Ben Shapiro's poorly constructed sentences about how his favorite cartoons hurt his fee fees.

Hows that for victim card lol.

I do appreciate the excerpts from the self help book on how to deal with nasty leftists. Virtue signalling! Fallacies! Moral authority!

 

[Blazers46]

Maybe around puberty, or when they start teaching "health" class, they can always just add in a segment on "if you're feeling this way you can get resources on it from a school guidance counselor". No idea if they're using those kind of strategies in school but would likely help kids out and help with acceptance. No idea how you help the kids with deadbeat parents who think LGBTQ people are the devil.

They are and then some. Your ideas seem to be very conservative compared to whats really happening.

I am pretty conservative and have never felt or ever really known anyone that thinks LGBTQ PEOPLE are the devil.

 

[TDHeysus]

I do appreciate the excerpts from the self help book on how to deal with nasty leftists.

you are welcome, sir.

 

[TorontoGold]

They are and then some. Your ideas seem to be very conservative compared to whats really happening.

I am pretty conservative and have never felt or ever really known anyone that thinks LGBTQ PEOPLE are the devil.

My ideas of more beliefs, I have no background in education or even the American education system. Just my sentiment is that there should be resources for students/teachers/counselors to deal with these kids. Would go a long way in helping combat mental illnesses in children.

See you say that, and I want to believe it but then you say there's been the Gay Agenda from the 80s that had all these different offshoots about perceived issues.

 

[Blazers46]

My ideas of more beliefs, I have no background in education or even the American education system. Just my sentiment is that there should be resources for students/teachers/counselors to deal with these kids. Would go a long way in helping combat mental illnesses in children.

See you say that, and I want to believe it but then you say there's been the Gay Agenda from the 80s that had all these different offshoots about perceived issues.

Not only am I a former social worker but I am from a family full of them currently. Even my very converted very far left family cringe when you mention mental health/mental illness with the education system. There might be some school councilors on this site that disagree. My very pro LGBTQ and very pro BLM sis-in-law, who is currently a social worker in the schools, will tell you schools do a horrible job and probably create more problems and more confusion when it comes to these things. Schools rarely if ever seek parental input or help/follow through. They are very disconnected and essentially two combating voices... left hand not talking to the right hand sort of thing. Imagine being a parent and finding out your child has been seeing the school counselor and getting free and sometimes unsolicited material from the school about being LGBTQ for years without any knowledge. It happens more frequent that one would think.