'08 CA QB Dayne Crist (Kansas Transfer)

[seniorle]

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[seniorle]

Not sure why but it's truncating my post so maybe this link will work. It's old Rivals articles that are now free:

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/teams/nnx

 

[irishunclebill]

Crist is going to LSU this weekend, and the latest we heard he is still planning on accompanying Anthony McDonald to ND on April 11. He is talking like he is pretty close to making a choice between LSU & ND, and has said that he will make his decision before the start of his senior year. Crist is concerned about playing time, and that would give LSU the edge here. It appears that the best chance for the Irish in successfully recruiting Crist is if he does not take a liking to the Bayou this weekend. If he does not show up with McDonald in South Bend on April 11, he seems likely to commit to LSU.

 

[Katzenboyer]

Crist is concerned about playing time, and that would give LSU the edge here.

With Flynn and Perriloux ahead of him on the depth chart if he goes to LSU?

I'm not saying it's a worse situation than ND's, but it's not the best of situations if he wants playing time either.

 

[irishunclebill]

With Flynn and Perriloux ahead of him on the depth chart if he goes to LSU?

I'm not saying it's a worse situation than ND's, but it's not the best of situations if he wants playing time either.

I agree to a certain extent but Flynn and Perriloux at least potentially are not Jimmy Clausen, and then there is Jones and Frazer to contend with as well.

BTW, there are a lot of people who feel that Crist is more of an ND lean because they believe his top priority will be the education factor, and that combined with his close friendship with McDonald should McDonald commit to ND, would be sufficient to overcome any concerns about playing time at ND. The telling sign will be whether he shows up at South Bend in April, if he does you would have to agree with the ND lean theory.

 

[GoshenGipper]

Flynn will be a 5th year Sr. this year, and with the kind of trouble that Perriloux has been getting into who really knows how that situation will work out?

 

[Katzenboyer]

I agree to a certain extent but Flynn and Perriloux at least potentially are not Jimmy Clausen, and then there is Jones and Frazer to contend with as well.

Perriloux was the top QB in his class though -- the talent is there, and he's no slouch.

 

[irishunclebill]

Crist has confirmed that he will be visiting ND April 11-14 with his Dad, and Anthony McDonald & his family. Crist who was in LSU last weekend, and is going to Stanford this weekend, did not seem overwhelmed by his visit to the Bayou, which is good news for the Irish. Some Michigan sites have been saying that Crist will also visit Ann Arbor during this trip, Michigan has now offered him as well, but Crist did not mention anything about taking any side trips.

Crist & McDonald still talk about going to college together, and ND was the first school to offer both. Since then only Oregon has also offered both, and neither Crist nor McDonald seem to have any interest in Oregon. Crist is definitely still a solid possibility for ND, as he does not seem to be bothered by the QB depth of the Irish. It should be interesting to see what he has to say about the Stanford trip, as based on his brief comments about LSU, a school like Stanford may end up being more competition for ND than LSU or Michigan.

 

[Rizzophil]

Thanks IrishUncle. Keep the GREAT info coming.

 

[Katzenboyer]

Crist & McDonald still talk about going to college together, and ND was the first school to offer both. Since then only Oregon has also offered both, and neither Crist nor McDonald seem to have any interest in Oregon. Crist is definitely still a solid possibility for ND, as he does not seem to be bothered by the QB depth of the Irish. It should be interesting to see what he has to say about the Stanford trip, as based on his brief comments about LSU, a school like Stanford may end up being more competition for ND than LSU or Michigan.

With all the talk about this guy having 5* ability, but a raw ability, I think Weis could be one of the few coaches in the college game that could harness his ability as a QB.

Some other guys like Tedford come to mind, but Weis definitely is up there. The Poodle seems to get more polished guys -- Sanchez and Booty both came to LA as studs.

I really, really want Crist, regardless of depth.

 

[irishunclebill]

With all the talk about this guy having 5* ability, but a raw ability, I think Weis could be one of the few coaches in the college game that could harness his ability as a QB.

Some other guys like Tedford come to mind, but Weis definitely is up there. The Poodle seems to get more polished guys -- Sanchez and Booty both came to LA as studs.

I really, really want Crist, regardless of depth.

Absolutely correct. Before he visited LSU, Crist mentioned that it would not bother him to redshirt his freshman year. That alone would put him 2 years behind JC, and if JC left after his Junior year because he had already graduated, Crist would still have three years of eligibility left with a redshirt.

 

[Irishknight1023]

How were his comments about the LSU spring game

 

[Freeman Ara]

Absolutely correct. Before he visited LSU, Crist mentioned that it would not bother him to redshirt his freshman year. That alone would put him 2 years behind JC, and if JC left after his Junior year because he had already graduated, Crist would still have three years of eligibility left with a redshirt.

this is assuming that JC wins the QB battle this year right? Either way I think Crist is an "almost must get" kind of guy because we don't know whats going to happen as far as people leaving and what not after this year. I meab you figure if Sharpley doesn't win the starting spot this year he might just go baseball. I figure we lose someone after this year at the QB spot.

 

[irishunclebill]

this is assuming that JC wins the QB battle this year right? Either way I think Crist is an "almost must get" kind of guy because we don't know whats going to happen as far as people leaving and what not after this year. I meab you figure if Sharpley doesn't win the starting spot this year he might just go baseball. I figure we lose someone after this year at the QB spot.

Right NDBCS, thanks for clarifying. I'm not sure that even if JC played a lot this year, and did have enough credits to graduate as a Junior that he would actually leave early. Either way Crist with a redshirt would have the opportunity to play every game in his Junior & Senior year, if he is good enough. Before BQ, and now possibly Clausen, two years as the starting QB at ND was more of the norm than the exception.

 

[irishunclebill]

How were his comments about the LSU spring game

Very brief, nothing negative, but nothing exciting either, kind of lukewarm. This is just me reading between the lines, but I got the impression that he did not seem to be all that taken by that Southern charm. I could be dead wrong, though.

 

[irishunclebill]

According to the USC message boards, El Poodle has finally offered Dayne Crist. As of yet there has been no independent confirmation of this, but there was shock and dismay that Crist had not immediately committed to his highness. Crist has given no indication that he would be overwhelmed by a USC offer, the shock and dismay is standard fare anytime a recruit receives an offer from the condoms and does not immediately supplicate himself to the Poodle, and beg to be allowed to commit on the spot. Still, if the offer is confirmed, it will bear watching what Dayne says and does in the next few weeks.

 

[GoshenGipper]

Here's a free article about it: Dayne Crist gets USC offer

 

[irishunclebill]

"Among the Top" and the Top is seven schools. Doesn't sound like he is ready to supplicate himself. As always, Crist is short, sweet, and to the point. He handles himself very well, which is a defining characteristic of an ND QB.

 

[Pete]

Here's a free article about it: Dayne Crist gets USC offer

Does this mean that Mustain isn't going to USC?

 

[gallup21]

Shamrock, he said it has nothing to do with Mustain..."he comes, he comes." top 5 are ND, USC, LSU, Mich, Stanford in no particular order

 

[grantphilly]

It's kind of sad that Mustains name is still being thrown around about where is going. He needs to sew his vag up and get to work, he's missing valuable time this spring.

 

[irishunclebill]

Crist reiterated that USC was one of his Top School choices, they always were on his list, but the USC offer did not change his plans. He still intends to visit ND from April 11-14, and he still plans on making his committment early, but not until right before the beginning of the new school year. Probably the most interesting comment of all was that he felt he would have a better idea of what he wants to do after he visits Notre Dame. That statement can mean anything from he is visiting ND to see if the staff can convince him that ND is the place for him, or he is visiting ND to see if there is anything about ND that would convince him that ND is not the place for him. Only Dayne Crist knows for sure what that means, but the fact that he is citing the ND visit as a focal point for his decision can only mean that there is a solid opportunity here for the Irish to recruit arguably the best West Coast QB prospect of the 2008 class.

 

[FleaFlicker]

Some rumblings around the rumor mill are that Crist wants to leave the West Coast. Which could be why he didn't jump on that USC offer yet.

But maybe he feels like going to Louisianna, who knows. But it does seem like he is very far from a "lock" for USC.

 

[Katzenboyer]

A buddy of mine who's close to the USC program is saying that NDHS people are telling everyone Crist is a Trojan.

BUT

My buddy doesn't really believe that, because if somebody's silently committed, he knows about it. The guy knew about Joe McKnight before anyone else, so take that FWIW.

 

[irishunclebill]

A buddy of mine who's close to the USC program is saying that NDHS people are telling everyone Crist is a Trojan.

BUT

My buddy doesn't really believe that, because if somebody's silently committed, he knows about it. The guy knew about Joe McKnight before anyone else, so take that FWIW.

If he is already a silent commit, I would be surprised if he actually shows up with McDonald on Wednesday. Either way he may be definitely leaning that way because the Poodle is now allegedly spinning a yarn that Corp (yes, he's the QB that all of the USC people were saying is actually better than JC) is not going to play QB now. If that part is true, it just shows that the Poodle will do anything to get a recruit (big surprise there, huh) because Corp is not physically suited to play any other position than QB. I think it's all a bunch of BS anyway for 2 reasons, Crist is too smart to fall for the Corp BS, and the NDHS Trojan crowd knows for sure that McDonald is going to commit to ND on Wednesday, so the Crist Trojan rumors may be to save a little face next week. I hate to jinx the McDonald thing but the USC recruiting board has taken him from a "High Priority" in January, to a "Priority" in March, to now just "evaluating". This is their typical way of saying that we were not really interested in the guy anyway, and is a sure fire indication that they expect McDonald to commit to another school.

I'm not saying that Crist will not end up at USC, he most likely will, but if he shows up with McDonald on Wednesday, then I think ND still has a shot at him. If he doesn't then you know the silent commit rumor is correct.

 

[MirageSmack]

IUB

I thought the Poodle encouraged his recruits to take their visits even if committed to USC?

 

[irishunclebill]

IUB

I thought the Poodle encouraged his recruits to take their visits even if committed to USC?

I think you are right, but my feeling, and it's only my feeling, is that Crist would not go along with all the Poodle BS, and not waste the time of other schools if he was definitely going to USC. Crist has not been to ND yet, and I do not see him giving USC any kind of committment, silent or otherwise, until he at least makes the visit. It just does not seem to be Crist's style to do otherwise. He may have indicated to USC that they are his preference at this time, and may come to ND just to eliminate the Irish as a choice, but if he shows up on Wednesday, IMO there is as of yet no "silent commit" to USC.

The whole silent commit business is all BS anyway, what does it really mean? That is why CW doesn't want them anymore, and is rumored to have already turned down at least 2 recruits who tried to offer them.

Case in point on just how silly the silent commit is. Habern on his Rivals video said that he silently committed to Oklahoma last month, but Stoops acted like he was surprised when Habern gave him his verbal this week. I guess Habern's commit last month was so silent that even Stoops did not hear him.

 

[seniorle]

I agree with IUB, I think it would be nuts for a kid to pay his own way for himself and his family to make an unofficial to ND if he wasn't serious about it. That costs a pretty penny I'm guessing between airfare, hotel, and food so I believe he has genuine interest and is not silently committed to anyone right now. We'll know for sure in the next couple of days when he's supposed to be here.

 

[rockne19]

this kid seems pretty serious about nd i thoughtwe werent going to take another qb this year.

 

[Irishknight1023]

He's not a silent commit anywhere thats 100% fact, and he is 100% going to be in South Bend on Wed. with Anthony McDonald