[NBA] vBook: Cavaliers vs Warriors

[bkess8]

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Fluke game imo.

 

[GATTACA!]

If Lebron can keep his jumper going we have a shot

 

[GoldenDome]

If Lebron can keep his jumper going we have a shot

The problem is it finally showed up tonight. Let's see if he can make that 15 footer consistently.

 

[Irish#1]

Thier fans are a joke. It's no one but Draymond's fault that he was in a situation where another flagrant would get him suspended. The NBA went by the letter of the law and he got what he deserved.

He shouldn't have responded, but I thought he was provoked when James stepped over him. It was pretty apparent that was intentional.

 

[irishfan]

Pretty sweet win, but seems impossible to replicate that for 2 more games. Especially with Draymond back.

 

[NorthDakota]

Pretty sweet win, but seems impossible to replicate that for 2 more games. Especially with Draymond back.

King James gon' take over.

 

[koonja]

I don't think the NBA is rigged, but as someone who doesn't really like either team, man, did the Cavs seem to get every 50/50 call last night, and the Warriors none. Anyone else see it that way?

 

[irishfan]

King James gon' take over.

Maybe. When he's hitting his shots he's pretty unstoppable. I don't see him doing it for 2 more games, but it could happen.

 

[woolybug25]

I don't think the NBA is rigged, but as someone who doesn't really like either team, man, did the Cavs seem to get every 50/50 call last night, and the Warriors none. Anyone else see it that way?

I'm with you. I have said many times before that I do not believe in coincidences. The calls all went the Cavs way, Green suspended, etc. The nba has been accused of rigging games in order to get longer series, preferred teams, etc. I'm not saying that they straight up tried to give the Cavs the win. But there sure seems like a lot of coincidence here. All pointing to more money for the NBA.

 

[Irish Insanity]

I don't think the NBA is rigged, but as someone who doesn't really like either team, man, did the Cavs seem to get every 50/50 call last night, and the Warriors none. Anyone else see it that way?

I'm with you. I have said many times before that I do not believe in coincidences. The calls all went the Cavs way, Green suspended, etc. The nba has been accused of rigging games in order to get longer series, preferred teams, etc. I'm not saying that they straight up tried to give the Cavs the win. But there sure seems like a lot of coincidence here. All pointing to more money for the NBA.

I do think, to a point, the NBA is rigged. I think the possibility of lengthening the series absolutely played a role in the Green call. Honestly watching it live at the time I didn't see it as that bad. The OKC kick(s)were far worse and nothing was called. However, last night wasn't lopsided officiating in one direction or another. It was probably one of the better officiated games this series.

 

[NorthDakota]

I do think, to a point, the NBA is rigged. I think the possibility of lengthening the series absolutely played a role in the Green call. Honestly watching it live at the time I didn't see it as that bad. The OKC kick(s)were far worse and nothing was called. However, last night wasn't lopsided officiating in one direction or another. It was probably one of the better officiated games this series.

Those played a big role I would think. You can only be a dumbass so many times before you get burned.

 

[koonja]

I do think, to a point, the NBA is rigged. I think the possibility of lengthening the series absolutely played a role in the Green call. Honestly watching it live at the time I didn't see it as that bad. The OKC kick(s)were far worse and nothing was called. However, last night wasn't lopsided officiating in one direction or another. It was probably one of the better officiated games this series.

I disagree. I saw the flagrant as necessary since he's done this more than once. IDK how the NBA could walk away from it and ignore it again. And I thought the foul calls were garbage last night. Felt like the Warriors drew a lot of contact and nothing, far more than it happened to the Cavs.

The Warriors play such disciplined defense, they don't actually foul nearly as much as a normal team. They do a great job of contesting, even drives, without making enough contact to warrant a foul. I thought they did that again last night but there were a lot of pre-assumed whistles IMO.

 

[woolybug25]

I disagree. I saw the flagrant as necessary since he's done this more than once. IDK how the NBA could walk away from it and ignore it again. And I thought the foul calls were garbage last night. Felt like the Warriors drew a lot of contact and nothing, far more than it happened to the Cavs.

The Warriors play such disciplined defense, they don't actually foul nearly as much as a normal team. They do a great job of contesting, even drives, without making enough contact to warrant a foul. I thought they did that again last night but there were a lot of pre-assumed whistles IMO.

A set of rules that has the subjectivity to ignore flagrant fouls until necessary is inherently flawed. That's not how rules work. Something is either against the rules or not. If we are saying that it was okay to ignore it in the last series because the games were tight, but not ok now because the Cavs were down, then by the very nature the system is rigged.

Rules aren't supposed to ebb and flow depending on what's going on in the series.

 

[Irish Insanity]

Those absolutely played a big role. But it's pathetic to call something now, after review, when you failed to call one so much more obvious and worse a few games prior. This is all coming from a OKC fan and someone who doesn't like Green. This time he had a player literally on top of him dropping the tea bag, he didn't go out of his way to kick a dude in the nuts in front of him. The context of how this one happened is more understandable than any of the previous ones.

Koon if you're going to post about the GSW stellar D, don't do it on arguably their worst D performance this year. (Obviously they had a legit excuse.) The problem for them was CLE understood early on the refs were letting them play. They accepted it and played on. The GSW didn't and continued to expect a call anytime they got in the paint. And I'm assuming you're ignoring the 3 calls against the defenders of Varejo (sp?), when 2 of the 3 were blatant flops. One where he actually had his arm over the shoulder of the CLE guy and pulled him down. All 3 were major plays for GSW.

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[greyhammer90]

The only thing that I'll say about the Green thing is that it was savvy as fuck for James to bait him like that. He knew what he was doing stepping over him. Green's "glass jaw" is the fact that he's easily angered and prone to taking cheap shots. I don't blame James in the slightest for taking advantage. If Green has a brain he plays last night and the Warriors maybe win. Instead he just couldn't help himself and had to hit a dude in the balls. "Congratulations, you played yourself."

 

[GATTACA!]

A set of rules that has the subjectivity to ignore flagrant fouls until necessary is inherently flawed. That's not how rules work. Something is either against the rules or not. If we are saying that it was okay to ignore it in the last series because the games were tight, but not ok now because the Cavs were down, then by the very nature the system is rigged.

Rules aren't supposed to ebb and flow depending on what's going on in the series.

It wasn't ignored. Draymond got a flagrant 2 for his kick on Adams. So basically the NBA thought his his nut tap was less egregious which I agree with. He just go suspended for the nut tap because of how many fouls he already accumulated.

 

[ACamp1900]

Got in the car this morning fully expecting to hear the last bit of non stop nba stuff assuming the warriors won... "FVK!!!"

 

[Irish Insanity]

It wasn't ignored. Draymond got a flagrant 2 for his kick on Adams. So basically the NBA thought his his nut tap was less egregious which I agree with. He just go suspended for the nut tap because of how many fouls he already accumulated.

Flagrant 2 after the fact when it should be been clearly assessed at the time if the review during the game and Green should've been booted.

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