Chicago White Sox... The thread.

Irish2155

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I just got back.....the f-ck happened to the Red Sox. 6 runs in the 8th and 9? Oh boy...that is a bad loss.

What did the whitesox do tonight?
 

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Things like blowing a 6 run lead in the bottom of the 9th isn't "ebb and flow." It's "cataclysmic failure."

Agreed, and this isn't the first time something like this has happened. I never feel confident with any lead whatsoever, knowing Ventura can mismanage the bullpen so badly that nothing is guaranteed.
 

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OMG...the more I read about today's loss pisses me off.

Let's do something else.
 

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OMG...the more I read about today's loss pisses me off.

Let's do something else.

I wish we could. That's the down side of a hockeyless summer. There's literally nothing else going on except baseball, and this is what we receive.
 

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It is 164 game season. May

Until I see a reason to keep Ventura as the manager, that's just 112 games of misery to go. I can't keep watching games where no lead whatsoever is safe, because the manager doesn't know when to keep or pull pitchers. If we somehow manage to start playing playoff baseball, I'll gladly eat the crow, but he hasn't shown the capability to do so since he arrived, so why would he start now?
 

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Until I see a reason to keep Ventura as the manager, that's just 112 games of misery to go. I can't keep watching games where no lead whatsoever is safe, because the manager doesn't know when to keep or pull pitchers. If we somehow manage to start playing playoff baseball, I'll gladly eat the crow, but he hasn't shown the capability to do so since he arrived, so why would he start now?

Is Robin really your issue...not the team on the field?
 

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Is Robin really your issue...not the team on the field?

Yes....Yes he is. Any White Sox fan can validate my opinion. He's arguably the worst manager in the sport. He brings little to nothing to the table. The fact that he's still managing this squad after 4 terrible seasons is a mystery to us all. I'd chalk it up to a fluke if this was the first time something like this happened, but it's been a staple since Ventura took over.
 
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Yes....Yes he is. Any White Sox fan can validate my opinion. He's arguably the worst manager in the sport. He brings little to nothing to the table. The fact that he's still managing this squad after 4 terrible seasons is a mystery to us all. I'd chalk it up to a fluke if this was the first time something like this happened, but it's been a staple since Ventura took over.

He's awful.
 

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This is a team with Latos in the rotation and a suspect bullpen.. Is Ventura a good manager.. no, but if they had hired Ron Gardenhire instead, they still wouldn't be a playoff team
 

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This is a team with Latos in the rotation and a suspect bullpen.. Is Ventura a good manager.. no, but if they had hired Ron Gardenhire instead, they still wouldn't be a playoff team

They have plenty of guys good enough to put together a solid bullpen, as evidence of their april output. It's all about how the manager uses his pen. I'd have a hard time imagining Gardenhire mismanaging it as badly as Ventura has over the last month. And Latos is their 4. How is that bad? Latos' output as of now is about what you'd expect from a bottom of the rotation pitcher. No, if Gardenhire had that kind of start, we'd still have a sizable lead in the division most likely.
 

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I'm taking a sanity break from the Sox for a few days, and hopefully read Kenny and Robin were burned alive in a dumpster fire when I come back.
 

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I'm taking a sanity break from the Sox for a few days, and hopefully read Kenny and Robin were burned alive in a dumpster fire when I come back.

Don't count on it. Chicago teams are notorious for not cutting ties with clear-cut cancers to the organization until the end of the season. Fire Ventura, fire Cooper, fire Ken Williams and fire Steverson. There's zero accountability for porous play, thus it continues. Even an average at best manager knows to hold players accountable, so this crap with the bullpen or guys like Abreu not playing up to par wouldn't last.

This team is a disgrace to a city that heralds it's sports legends.
 
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Even with the trade for Shields, I don't think this is a playoff team.. Suspect hitters, all in the .240-.290 range, Extremely suspect bullpen (The Tigers have owned the bullpen the last two games) and with exception of Q, Sales and now Shields.. I don't trust anyone else in that Rotation... They are a .500 team, but hopefully with experience they can take the next step next year
 

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Even with the trade for Shields, I don't think this is a playoff team.. Suspect hitters, all in the .240-.290 range, Extremely suspect bullpen (The Tigers have owned the bullpen the last two games) and with exception of Q, Sales and now Shields.. I don't trust anyone else in that Rotation... They are a .500 team, but hopefully with experience they can take the next step next year

The longer Ventura stays, the worse this organization will be in the long run. I just listened to his press conference after the 2nd loss to Washington....that is the voice of a man who clearly has no flipping idea what he's doing.

I was actually speechless at how incompetent and carefree Ventura spoke. It's like he doesn't even give a rat's ass. Losing is contagious and we have a manager that enables losing.
 

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The longer Ventura stays, the worse this organization will be in the long run. I just listened to his press conference after the 2nd loss to Washington....that is the voice of a man who clearly has no flipping idea what he's doing.

I was actually speechless at how incompetent and carefree Ventura spoke. It's like he doesn't even give a rat's ass. Losing is contagious and we have a manager that enables losing.

Be thankful you aren't a braves fan.
 

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23-10 to start the season and they hit 30 losses before 30 wins. unbelievable how bad this team is right now.

so, besides that, how was the play, Mrs. Lincoln?
 

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Chicago White Sox... The thread.

Not sure I agreed with Shields' approach of spotting Scherzer 6 runs. It was a bold move Cotton, and it didn't pay off.
 

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Trade for Shields was awesome...

We're on the hook for $31M for a guy coming over at 2-7 and a 4.5 ERA in the NL. Williams (Hahn) strikes again.
 

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But just wait until the games get "big"...
 

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Tyler Danish called up.
Mat Latos gone
Sign Justin Morneau.


meh
 

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Did I read right you guys had an outfielder pitch last evening? Is that the first position player to touch the bump this year?
 

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Morneau's worth a shot. Seems to me he batted .600+ at Comiskey.
 

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Why da hell the halos didn't go after JM is beyond me... CJ Cron is not worth not taking a flyer on Morneau... Oh well
 
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