'08 TX RB Sam McGuffie (Michigan Verbal)

[FleaFlicker]

These statements saying this kid isn't an elite talent and a surefire rb in D1 are ignorant and backwards to say the least. Have you seen the footage and numbers this guy is putting up?! He's playing in the largest division in ALMIGHTY Texas that everyone raves about and is super fast and athletic. His measurables are freakish and he will only get better. I would say he is close if not as good as AA who by the way got injured this year without much flack about his durability. This kid is white. Plain and simple racism is the only obstacle he may face that will deny him the opportunity to play his natural position in college. The pollitically incorrect topic of racism against whites may be taboo, but its time that the word is a two way street.

First of all, AA runs a sub 4.4. This guy doesn't. Second of all, simply look at the tape again. AA has amazing balance and, despite being fast and shifty, can take a mean hit and work through it. His legs are always moving.

I like McGuffie, but he isn't the same as AA. McGuffie's coach even pointed out that part of his durabilty is due to the fact that he hasn't taken too many direct hits. That's a partial bonus, but it also makes you wonder what would happen when he inevitably does take some big hits. I'm sure CW is recruiting him as a WR, where I think he could be a burner and similar to Shelton, a long ball threat that spreads the secondary out.

It has nothing to do with race, as far as I am concerned. Just look at his build, and compare that to AA. Here you go, I'll do it for you...





actually I compared the tape of AA and McGuffie again, and you are right, they aren't dramatically different. AA still has better balance. The thing abotu McGuffie is that 90% of his highlites, he doesn't get touched in, and just bolts to the end-zone. He makes some nice cuts, and does have very good speed though. e may have sub 4.4 speed, but hasn't been officially clocked yet, from what I have seen.

He just doesn't have the body of an every-down back, right now, whereas AA has that durability IMO. But he could be an amazing slot guy or special threat ala Percy Harvin (though obviously not quite of that caliber).

 

[IRISHFLORIDIAN]

Very good retort and I believe you are well informed. As for my stance on AA. I'm absolutely thrilled to have this guy on our side. He's an amazing talent with speed to burn and natural ability to boot. He will be a major player in the near future and I wholeheartedly agree with your assesment of his abilities. I do however feel you are somewhat off target in analyzing McDuffie. He has been clocked with sub 4.4 speed at a nike camp last year. Don't take my word for it, but I was just reading on another ND forum that quotes Bob Stoops as saying he was the fastest guy he's seen on film. Im not ready to put him in the Pro Bowl but I would hope that people give him a chance before delegating him to special teams demon in college. BTW, he's only a junior. Give him a year to grow into his body.

 

[njuneardave]

he has, indeed, been clocked sub-4.4. Electronically 4.33. That's fast.

 

[laxkid23]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=-hoQJPcj2qs

He is still strong.

 

[IrishDon103]

McGuffie is is going to be good...for sure.

To be honest, I'm interested what his star ranking will be. I'm not trying to be racist, so please don't take this the wrong way, but I have trouble envisioning a white 5* RB, yet he seems to have all the tools. Again, I'm not a racist or anything...just saying.

 

[iloveirish_12]

McGuffie is is going to be good...for sure.

To be honest, I'm interested what his star ranking will be. I'm not trying to be racist, so please don't take this the wrong way, but I have trouble envisioning a white 5* RB, yet he seems to have all the tools. Again, I'm not a racist or anything...just saying.

Has there been one anyone can think of?

 

[FleaFlicker]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=-hoQJPcj2qs

He is still strong.

I'd never seen that clip before, it's a really strong run and impresses me more than initially. I'd still like to see him get a little stronger though. But he hasn't even played his senior year yet, so he has time.

 

[brownkj002]

Has there been one anyone can think of?

Not that I can remember since the late 90's early 2000's. Nate Schiccatano was a 4*. That is about all I remember. Most white running backs get looked at for other positions.

 

[Ricochet]

These statements saying this kid isn't an elite talent and a surefire rb in D1 are ignorant and backwards to say the least. Have you seen the footage and numbers this guy is putting up?! He's playing in the largest division in ALMIGHTY Texas that everyone raves about and is super fast and athletic. His measurables are freakish and he will only get better. I would say he is close if not as good as AA who by the way got injured this year without much flack about his durability. This kid is white. Plain and simple racism is the only obstacle he may face that will deny him the opportunity to play his natural position in college. The pollitically incorrect topic of racism against whites may be taboo, but its time that the word is a two way street.

I agree, I wrote what I wrote from what I was told about the kid after asking around and maybe the info is bad from the sense that they have something against the kid because he's white. But like I said in my post before why is everybody comparing him to white WR's instead of RB's is everybody being racist? Maybe, I don't know but thats what's happening. Obviously Massachusetts is no Texas but where was all this outrage when Barry Gallup a stud white RB with great speed didn't get recruited at all to be a RB?

 

[Ricochet]

McGuffie is is going to be good...for sure.

To be honest, I'm interested what his star ranking will be. I'm not trying to be racist, so please don't take this the wrong way, but I have trouble envisioning a white 5* RB, yet he seems to have all the tools. Again, I'm not a racist or anything...just saying.

As do I but not because I don't think a white player doesn't have the ability to be a 5* RB but because there is that attitude that people have in this country anymore and it's not unlike the day when people weren't being racist per say they just were ignorant to think a black man could be a QB at the highest levels.

 

[IRISHFLORIDIAN]

I agree 100% with your last two posts Ricochet. It's not always ability that gets judged because perception usually conquers reality. Ignorance runs rampant in this country and Im sick of it. Im constantly bombarded with propaganda from tv shows and espn and "experts" that degrade and exalt people based on perception. Im not a fool that doesn't believe there are certain tendencies that are apparent when dealing with athletics. I just want merit to be the basis of judgement. I guarantee you we could have a field day with scholars such as Mel Kiper Jr and others if we broke down film of players with full body suits and asked them to analyze the best athletes. Players such as Harrison Smith, Barry Gallop, Steve Paskorz, and Sam McDuffie woud probably all be unanimously critiqued as runningbacks and not converted into other positions. Its just like the old days when black qbs were always made into recievers or d-backs. It was wrong then, and its wrong now.

 

[irishunclebill]

For a guy who is not even ranked in the pre-season Top 100 of either Scouts or Rivals, McGuffie is getting a lot of attention, and already seems to be a bit overwhelmed by it.

Here are quotes attributed to McGuffie from an article dated 2/12/07 when asked what school he was favoring.

"Oh it's hard to say,”, "They're all so close that there's really no point in ranking them. If I had to, I would say Notre Dame, Michigan, Oklahoma, Georgia Tech and Texas Tech. They are all tied."

In an article dated only 3 day laters McGuffie is quoted as saying.

"I have eight offers, Texas Tech, Texas A&M, Georgia Tech, Michigan, Oklahoma, Kansas State, Kansas and Notre Dame have offered."

"I'm interested in all the big schools really, I don't really have a favorite. I've only been to Oklahoma and Texas A&M. They were both really nice".

Add to this a phone call from Ohio State and McGuffie says,

“I'm definitely interested in Ohio State."


Oh, the wonderful world of college football recruiting. It’s interesting that Texas seems to have no interest in McGuffie, and vice versa. Even without Texas, I don’t think Sam expected all of this attention, and even though he has stated that he will choose a school before the first game of his senior year, I doubt if he will be certain by then.

 

[irishunclebill]

The legend of Sam McGuffie continues to grow. His high school coach said Sam just did a 4.28 hand-timed 40 yard dash. Anyone for a McGuffie/ Calvin Johnson match race in the 40?

 

[Ricochet]

The legend of Sam McGuffie continues to grow. His high school coach said Sam just did a 4.28 hand-timed 40 yard dash. Anyone for a McGuffie/ Calvin Johnson match race in the 40?

If thats true all I can say is WOW!!!!

 

[njuneardave]

i just took a hand-timed 3.4 second dump.


take it for what it's worth.... which is about the same respect that i have for the coach's stopwatch ability.

 

[irishnd31]

i just took a hand-timed 3.4 second dump.

Does it play running back?

By the way, what did you eat?

*I'm already sick, and I just couldn't look at that pic any longer without throwing up.*

 

[BGIF]

The legend of Sam McGuffie continues to grow. His high school coach said Sam just did a 4.28 hand-timed 40 yard dash. Anyone for a McGuffie/ Calvin Johnson match race in the 40?

According to a SoonerIllustrated article he was laser timed in 4.33.

 

[johnnd05]

I heard he ran a 4.42 on his knees.

 

[irishunclebill]

I heard he ran a 4.42 on his knees.

LOL- but I think it was a 4.41, his coach hand timed him! That's a great one, adds more to the McGuffie lore, you should post that over at Rivals, they would probably believe it. Maybe instead of having a 40 match race with Calvin, he should have one with JaMarcus to see if he can run faster on his knees than JaMarcus can throw from his knees.

 

[BestBIrish47]

I hear he ran 4.42 on his knees , then took a 3.4 second laser dump, help a little old lady cross a road of terrorists, learned Portuguese and realized he forgot to wipe after LASER DUMP!!!

 

[Freeman Ara]

I agree 100% with your last two posts Ricochet. It's not always ability that gets judged because perception usually conquers reality. Ignorance runs rampant in this country and Im sick of it. Im constantly bombarded with propaganda from tv shows and espn and "experts" that degrade and exalt people based on perception. Im not a fool that doesn't believe there are certain tendencies that are apparent when dealing with athletics. I just want merit to be the basis of judgement. I guarantee you we could have a field day with scholars such as Mel Kiper Jr and others if we broke down film of players with full body suits and asked them to analyze the best athletes. Players such as Harrison Smith, Barry Gallop, Steve Paskorz, and Sam McDuffie woud probably all be unanimously critiqued as runningbacks and not converted into other positions. Its just like the old days when black qbs were always made into recievers or d-backs. It was wrong then, and its wrong now.

First off I don't think race has anything to do with why gallup and those guys changed positions. Gallup is tiny from what I remember as is Munir Prince, thats why Prince didn't see the field much at like 175 lbs. and I think Gallup is in the same body mold. As far as H. Smith he wasn't being recruited as a running back but at his more natural postion of safety, because he has the size and body to play RB if he wanted weighing more then 200 lbs. Same story with Paskorz he wanted to play LB i believe and thats where they recruited him position wise. I just don't think you can use Gallup as a good example because he is not really big enough to play running back at the college level. and is McDuffie like 190 lbs, with another year to add weight and muscle, so he is more in the running back mold.

 

[BGIF]

http://michigan.scout.com/2/623688.html


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McGuffie was the meet MVP. He won the 110m high hurdle finals in 14.5 seconds ...won the high jump -- cleared 6-4 ... won the long jump ... 23-3.

The 5-11, 190 pounder's speed and power (he's heavily-muscled and broad shouldered -- no 'skinny track guy') ...
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[johnnd05]

Damn. This kid is an ATHLETE. I guess we don't have much of a shot with him, but he is quickly competing with Will Hill, Michael Floyd, and Terrelle Pryor for the title of Commit I'd Most Like to Get. Land any one of these three and it's a class I'll be happy with.

 

[roto-stud]

Just look at the film gentlemen...this kid was born to score TDs from the RUNNING BACK position...4 star or 5 star who cares...I want to see this kid in ND blue and gold running for daylight...to me it doesn't matter if its from kickoffs or punts or from the tailback position...

 

[brownkj002]

Just look at the film gentlemen...this kid was born to score TDs from the RUNNING BACK position...4 star or 5 star who cares...I want to see this kid in ND blue and gold running for daylight...to me it doesn't matter if its from kickoffs or punts or from the tailback position...

I don't see ND having much of a chance with this guy. Maybe an official visit can move ND up his list.

 

[TexasNDFan]

I think this kids recruiting is wide open, if Texas wanted him they would've offfered and probably recieved his commitment by now. So the fact that Texas is not that intrested atleast for now, it leaves all other schools intrested in him with a good shot.

I have no inside info, but I see this kid leaving the state, because if he's really intrested in Texas than he really wouldn't want to go to another school in this state, especially ones that play UT.

 

[iloveirish_12]

Why wouldnt Texas be intrested? They are stupid.

 

[d9cornel]

I just watched his film and WOW. Just watch it.

 

[johnnd05]

I just watched his film and WOW. Just watch it.

Whoa. I just watched it, too. Goodness gracious me.

Maybe he could double as a hurdler for the track team?

 

[irishunclebill]

Why wouldnt Texas be intrested? They are stupid.

I can give you three reasons why Texas is not interested in Sam McGuffie. Darrell Scott, Jeremy Hills, & Tre Newton. These are 3 running backs that Texas has already offered, and before the legend of Sam McGuffie started to explode, they were all considered to be more elite recruits than McGuffie, and actually despite the McGuffie hype, they still are. Hills & Newton have already verbally commiitted to Texas. Darrell Scott is a Rivals 100 to watch RB from California, and one of the top RB prospects in the nation for 2008. Mack Brown is no cockwad, he tends to keep his promises to his recruits, and is unlikely to go after McGuffie even if he does not land Darrell Scott. Texas's loss is a gain for everyone else. McGuffie is a true diamond in the rough, and even if he does not play a full time RB position in college, his athleticism is a special team's coach dream. Think Golden Tate & Sam McGuffie returning kickoffs side by side. McGuffie's recruitment is wide open, ND has just as good a chance as landing him as anyone. IMO McGuffie will end up either at ND or a Big Ten school, with the big fear being that he might end up being enticed by the cockwad.