'16 TN WR Nate Johnson (Michigan Signee)

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Also with Nate Johnson he was on campus and I heard from a birdie he was listed around 5'8 so maybe he is 5'9 but he's way to small to play corner. Staff decided to pass, also other issues
 

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He's also 5'8".

Robby Toma / Nico height without the upside. That being the extra "draw" of other recruits, if you will.

where is this "he's 5-8" stuff coming from?

Pretty sure the ND coaches who visited him in school would know how tall he really was and would've just not invited him to come on the official if he was really 5'8" and his height was a big deal to them.

By the way, he measured in his socks and shorts at the Nike/Opening Columbus camp at 5'11.5". Those measurements at those Nike camps are pretty damn accurate.

Being 5'8" isn't a killer for WR's in todays game like it used to be with the way the game is played and the wide open offenses and the rule changes. And having elite quickness/change of direction and short area burst is WAY more important than having top elite end speed. Obviously it's ideal to have both, but if you can only have one, it's honestly better to have the quickness/cod than pure blazing speed.

Look at guys like Eddleman, Amendola, Welker at 5'8/5'9. That size isn't a killer to WR's like it used to be. In today's game small guys you can put in the slot and are super quick are an essential part to any successful passing offense.
 

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where is this "he's 5-8" stuff coming from?

Pretty sure the ND coaches who visited him in school would know how tall he really was and would've just not invited him to come on the official if he was really 5'8" and his height was a big deal to them.

By the way, he measured in his socks and shorts at the Nike/Opening Columbus camp at 5'11.5". Those measurements at those Nike camps are pretty damn accurate.

Being 5'8" isn't a killer for WR's in todays game like it used to be with the way the game is played and the wide open offenses and the rule changes. And having elite quickness/change of direction and short area burst is WAY more important than having top elite end speed. Obviously it's ideal to have both, but if you can only have one, it's honestly better to have the quickness/cod than pure blazing speed.

Look at guys like Eddleman, Amendola, Welker at 5'8/5'9. That size isn't a killer to WR's like it used to be. In today's game small guys you can put in the slot and are super quick are an essential part to any successful passing offense.


It's obviously a lot easier to be tiny with trailblazing speed.

I wasn't impressed by his film and I've been wrong before.

Enjoy him. He's a skunk bear.

I'm more than content with the WRs ND picked up this cycle as of now with a shot at Robinson still also.
 

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He's not 5'11, sure he could have told everyone he measured in at 5'11. Doesn't make him 5'11
 

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You guys got a good one. Like Driskell said, he's really what you guys are missing.
 

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Breaking News: High School football player might be good at college football or might not be. Stay tuned over the next 3-4 years as this story develops.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Three-star WR Nate Johnson sticks with <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Michigan?src=hash">#Michigan</a> - could be huge day for <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/GoBlue?src=hash">#GoBlue</a> <a href="https://t.co/x037ZYW5hu">https://t.co/x037ZYW5hu</a></p>— Adam Gorney (@adamgorney) <a href="https://twitter.com/adamgorney/status/694872613231853570">February 3, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Converted to CB

kind of makes sense. Keith Washington transferring left a depth hole at CB and the WR room is crowded.

Johnson was behind Eddie McDoom and Dlyan Crawford at WR in his own class (2016) and then Grant Perry was allowed back on the team and then Tarik Black, Donovan Peoples-Jones, Nico Collins, and Oliver Martin came in this class and have all passed him in short order.
 

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kind of makes sense. Keith Washington transferring left a depth hole at CB and the WR room is crowded.

Johnson was behind Eddie McDoom and Dlyan Crawford at WR in his own class (2016) and then Grant Perry was allowed back on the team and then Tarik Black, Donovan Peoples-Jones, Nico Collins, and Oliver Martin came in this class and have all passed him in short order.

I'm salty about Oliver Martin. He'd have almost certainly been in the 2 deep here.
 

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I'm salty about Oliver Martin. He'd have almost certainly been in the 2 deep here.

he's been making a lot of noise in fall camp. his route running is excellent and he's got great hands. definitely the most polished of the true freshman WR's - doesn't have the size of Nico Collins or Tarik Black or the insane freakish athleticism of DPJ - but he's been out-performing all of them. Really think he's going to be a big-time player.
 

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I bet Oklahoma would take him.

seems more en vogue now for kids to go to JUCO, Last Chance U has glamorized the system i reckon. Kids would rather play for a year and live on easy street there than sit at a 4 year school for a year it seems.
 

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seems more en vogue now for kids to go to JUCO, Last Chance U has glamorized the system i reckon. Kids would rather play for a year and live on easy street there than sit at a 4 year school for a year it seems.

It takes a very unique player (crazy) to turn down a redshirt/transfer year at OU (or any program remotely close) with all the luxuries, ego feeding benefits and guarantee of a scholarship through graduation over going to a juco.
 

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It takes a very unique player (crazy) to turn down a redshirt/transfer year at OU (or any program remotely close) with all the luxuries, ego feeding benefits and guarantee of a scholarship through graduation over going to a juco.

most schools wait a year for the dust to settle on a kid in this situation though too so perhaps my point is moot. I very much doubt any D1 program takes him without him taking a year at JUCO
 

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I was being sarcastic regarding Oklahoma. As much heat as they took over the Mixon incident, I wouldn't look for Oklahoma to take any transfers with that kind of baggage.
 

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most schools wait a year for the dust to settle on a kid in this situation though too so perhaps my point is moot. I very much doubt any D1 program takes him without him taking a year at JUCO

That is true. He'll get a penalty year in football purgatory... if he isn't serving a penalty for the state of Michigan that is.
 
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