Is Kelly a REALLY good coach?

dad4aa

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Best coach we've had since Lou and likely the best we will have going forward.

Agree. With all of the ancillary stuff our HC has to deal with that other's don't...I'm not sure who would be an improvement over BK.
 

pumpdog20

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Love BK as our coach.

As for losing to Ohio State and them being a better, more talented team. Yes, they are more better and talented than a lot of our back ups and back up to back ups.
 

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Don't really understand all the hate, I can't think of anyone I would pick up right now who would want to take the jump to ND that would be an upgrade over BK. Dude took a freshman 3rd string QB and went 10-3 with a formidable schedule. He is a good coach, and he holds the players to a high standard. He's a good representative of the university
 

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Kelly is a fantastic coach who lost a tough game to a great opponent. We're lucky to have him for as long as we do. Here's hoping the NFL doesn't come calling any time soon.
 

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Kelly is a very good coach but his personality has always rubbed me the wrong way and I won't be sorry to see him go.

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Kelly is a very good coach but his personality has always rubbed me the wrong way and I won't be sorry to see him go.

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I'll take the very good coach with a bad personality.
 

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Until Kelly quits playing favorites like Schmidt and picking coaches from past relationships and not production (BVG), no he wont be a good coach.

Coaching is about putting the best player in no matter what. He has clearly shown that he wont do that.

Coaching is about making solid and fair decisions for the betterment of your team. Sending home two starters against the 2nd best team in the country because they came home late one night just to show everyone your word is law is foolish to the extreme. You dont put your team in a pickle like that. You want to run their asses until the drop when you get home...fine. But you dont shotgun your team just to make a point of your own egoism.

BK had shit for brains hiring BVG to begin with. Please show me where he has been successful for any period of time? One year wonders is like one hit wonders in the music industry. Equally worthless in the big scheme of things.

BK talked about BVGs schemes yet every single coach ND played against figured it out pretty dang well. So I guess it is only complicated when you are teaching young men who are supposed to be in the top 10 percent academic wise for football playing athletes in America right?

Both of them are jokes imo. So many more coaches have done more with a ton of a lot less.
 

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Both of them are jokes imo.

Oh the irony.

BK took a kid that you claimed wasn't even good enough to play Div 1 football ANYWHERE (Kizer), and still made a New Years Bowl game. How does a 'joke' coach do that, considering that QB is the most important position in sports? Make up your mind, because it was you who said that Kizer sucked, but then BK won 9 more games with him (as a freshman) and barely lost to the #1 team in the nation on the road with him. A joke coach can't do that.

The only joke here was your post. But don't worry, I know you won't reply because you're 'scared you'll get banned by the mods if you respond' lol (in reality, you have no response).
 
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Kelly is a smart dude. But for what ever reasons against good teams it takes the first 20 mins for this offense to produce. And you can't do that at this level and when you have an ok defense it makes it that much worse. BVG needs to be fired or Kelly's will have a lot of heat on his back because this defense won't win a this team a game like the offense did this year.
 

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Oh the irony.

BK took a kid that you claimed wasn't even good enough to play Div 1 football ANYWHERE (Kizer), and still made a New Years Bowl game. How does a 'joke' coach do that, considering that QB is the most important position in sports? Make up your mind, because it was you who said that Kizer sucked, but then BK won 9 more games with him (as a freshman) and barely lost to the #1 team in the nation on the road with him. A joke coach can't do that.

The only joke here was your post. But don't worry, I know you won't reply because you're 'scared you'll get banned by the mods if you respond' lol (in reality, you have no response).

He said that?
 

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It's games like today's that do make me wonder if BK can take the Irish to the promised land. Sigh...

Ready for a break.
 

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Kelly's record in Bowl games is now 3-3 .500. His Wins are to Rutgers,Miami,Lsu and Loses is Bama,FSU,OSU. One column is much different then the other.
 

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He said that?

Basically word for word. So in his words, BK had an injury-depleted team lead by a bad, Div 2 level QB and took them to 10 wins, with 2-point losses to the #1 and #5 teams in the nation (on the road), and Kelly is a joke coach??? Wingman thinks he can have it both ways...the players AND the coaches are garbage and yet they rose to the #4 spot based on......what exactly?

Kelly isn't above reproach, but some of these posts are ridiculous.
 

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Basically word for word. So in his words, BK had an injury-depleted team lead by a bad, Div 2 level QB and took them to 10 wins, with 2-point losses to the #1 and #5 teams in the nation (on the road), and Kelly is a joke coach??? Wingman thinks he can have it both ways...the players AND the coaches are garbage and yet they rose to the #4 spot based on......what exactly?

Kelly isn't above reproach, but some of these posts are ridiculous.


Homer!
 

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Wasn't he a fairly successful DC at UGA?

In three of his four years there, UGA's defense was in the Top 10 in scoring defense. But we don't like to let unimportant things like facts get in the way of good old fashioned emotional overreaction around here. :wink:
 

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Basically word for word. So in his words, BK had an injury-depleted team lead by a bad, Div 2 level QB and took them to 10 wins, with 2-point losses to the #1 and #5 teams in the nation (on the road), and Kelly is a joke coach??? Wingman thinks he can have it both ways...the players AND the coaches are garbage and yet they rose to the #4 spot based on......what exactly?

Kelly isn't above reproach, but some of these posts are ridiculous.

It is SOOOOOO sad to see this thread back on top!!! We just had a 10 win season with 17 of our 2 deep out. I can't believe people even question if Kelly is a good coach!!!
 

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Basically word for word. So in his words, BK had an injury-depleted team lead by a bad, Div 2 level QB and took them to 10 wins, with 2-point losses to the #1 and #5 teams in the nation (on the road), and Kelly is a joke coach??? Wingman thinks he can have it both ways...the players AND the coaches are garbage and yet they rose to the #4 spot based on......what exactly?

Kelly isn't above reproach, but some of these posts are ridiculous.

Kelly isn't the problem. He absorbed injuries and still delivered good-great offensive skill production. There are days the Oline looks average, today being one of those. I have concerns regarding the mistakes made by veterans in key situations. It is up to BK to run that shit out of the program. But the one I can't figure out...why the defense, particularly the secondary is so consistently inconsistent....well and today they looked slow...tackled for SHIT, and spent a lot of time catching instead of delivering a blow...how is that possible with the athletes? My faith on the D side is wavering. The reality seems to be that ND will have a lot of injuries, so the scheme better translate to the first three levels of the depth chart. Other teams (Ohio state) seem to handle injuries better...those kids on the line today from OSU played pretty fast...I completely believe BVG is smarting himself out of a job...
 

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Is Kelly a good coach? Sure he is look at what he has done with everything that has happened this year.

Now my real question is Kelly a good motivator? We have come out flat in a lot of games this season not just the losses.

Look at our schedule and please let me know if I'm off.

Texas- Ready to play
Virginia- Flat
Georgia Tech- Ready to play
UMass- Flat
Clemson- Flat
Navy- Ready to play
USC- Flat
Temple- Flat
Pitt- Flat
Wake- Flat
BC- Flat
Stanford- Flat
OSU- Flat

Also why do we not possess that instinct as a team to put people away? We will never get any better as a team until our backups can see some time on the field and use what they have learned in practice against other teams.
 

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Is Kelly a good coach? Sure he is look at what he has done with everything that has happened this year.

Now my real question is Kelly a good motivator? We have come out flat in a lot of games this season not just the losses.

Look at our schedule and please let me know if I'm off.

Texas- Ready to play
Virginia- Flat
Georgia Tech- Ready to play
UMass- Flat
Clemson- Flat
Navy- Ready to play
USC- Flat
Temple- Flat
Pitt- Flat
Wake- Flat
BC- Flat
Stanford- Flat
OSU- Flat

Also why do we not possess that instinct as a team to put people away? We will never get any better as a team until our backups can see some time on the field and use what they have learned in practice against other teams.

Are we really coming out flat or are we just not that good? We had a very good season and beat the teams we were supposed to but we played like a top 10-15 team. IMO, we were not as talented as OSU. A team like ours doesn't just come out destroying every team we play. I thought we played hard all year, in all of our games.
 
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