'16 CO DE Carlo Kemp (Michigan Verbal)

[NDinL.A.]

I disagree. I see him as a high target on ND's list.

Reporters, whose sources are guys on the coaching staff, say the opposite. Thus the slow play.

 

[PANDFAN]

"I'm going to Notre Dame for the Navy game," Kemp said. "I'm also working on setting one up with Michigan, either for the BYU game or the Ohio State game.

"I've had an ongoing mindset where I want to take all my officials and then commit to my school. But if I know where I want to be, I might not have to take all five. I might know after my first visit or my second one. You fall in love with schools and try to stick to your plan, so hopefully going into the season I'll know of five schools and then commit after the officials."

rivals...also WILL BE AN EE

 

[dublinirish]

Michigan Football, Recruiting News, Basketball & Forums - The Michigan Insider Front Page

game 1 highlights - no ND related info

 

[ResLife Hero]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Colorado 4-star DE Carlo Kemp knows 4 officials he plans to take. But he could commit much sooner: <a href="http://t.co/pDA2shY6Xa">http://t.co/pDA2shY6Xa</a></p>— Anna Hickey (@AnnaHScout) <a href="https://twitter.com/AnnaHScout/status/641234975140909056">September 8, 2015</a></blockquote>
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[ResLife Hero]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">4-star DE Carlo Kemp will get a second look at Notre Dame this weekend .. Story $: <a href="http://t.co/2pzJgSCCcV">http://t.co/2pzJgSCCcV</a> <a href="http://t.co/E2e15JFjr1">pic.twitter.com/E2e15JFjr1</a></p>— Andrew Ivins (@BGI_AndrewIvins) <a href="https://twitter.com/BGI_AndrewIvins/status/651400732164423680">October 6, 2015</a></blockquote>
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[Big23Head]

Anna's opinion: if he doesn't commit this weekend, there is a good chance he will by month's end

 

[zelezo vlk]

How's he doing this season?

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[Luckylucci]

How's he doing this season?

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Don't know but I've been periodically looking at his Hudl page and nothing new has been added.

 

[ndfb3]

Carlo Kemp's (Boulder, CO) Football Stats | MaxPreps

 

[Luckylucci]

Anna's opinion: if he doesn't commit this weekend, there is a good chance he will by month's end

Did not see this right away. That he commits to ND or in general. As of now, it sounds like he's Michigan's to lose and we'll really have to hit a home run to swing this back to us.

 

[deise mike]

Michigan have 22 commits already, haven't they? They seem to be challenging us for every remaining recruit. How come they have room?

 

[Luckylucci]

Michigan have 22 commits already, haven't they? They seem to be challenging us for every remaining recruit. How come they have room?

In general, yes, Michigan looks like they are at least going to start out the Harbaugh era with an SEC style approach. Bring in a ton of guys and see what sticks. Not sure if the plan is to push guys out at the end of the cycle should they get better players or expect more and more transfers.

We're not really competing against UM for that many guys, there's only a few Kemp, Kelly, Jones. I might be missing a couple but a large majority of guys we are still after aren't being recruited or aren't considering Michigan. Hamlin, Fuller, Vaugh, Studstill, Betiku, Burton, McKinley, Robertson, McCulloch, Hayes, Stovall, Alloway, Hansford, Davonte Robinson, Tony Pride Jr., etc.

I suppose we are competing with them for Rashan Gary but I really don't consider us an even fringe player until he visits.

 

[IrishLion]

In general, yes, Michigan looks like they are at least going to start out the Harbaugh era with an SEC style approach. Bring in a ton of guys and see what sticks. Not sure if the plan is to push guys out at the end of the cycle should they get better players or expect more and more transfers.

We're not really competing against UM for that many guys, there's only a few Kemp, Kelly, Jones. I might be missing a couple but a large majority of guys we are still after aren't being recruited or aren't considering Michigan. Hamlin, Fuller, Vaugh, Studstill, Betiku, Burton, McKinley, Robertson, McCulloch, Hayes, Stovall, Alloway, Hansford, Davonte Robinson, Tony Pride Jr., etc.

I suppose we are competing with them for Rashan Gary but I really don't consider us an even fringe player until he visits.

I was reading up some research from a scUM site and this is basically what is going to happen, and essentially has been Harbaugh's plan from the start.

scUM fans were restless at the beginning of the cycle because of the low-rated guys that were already filling up the boat, but the article I found said that the strategy was to fill up as much as possible early, just to make sure the depth is getting shored up numbers wise, and then to start pushing guys out later in the cycle if scUM had success and started reeling in some bigger fish.

It will be interesting to see who decommits from scUM, and what their ratings will be, once NSD starts getting close.

 

[beryirish]

I was reading up some research from a scUM site and this is basically what is going to happen, and essentially has been Harbaugh's plan from the start.

scUM fans were restless at the beginning of the cycle because of the low-rated guys that were already filling up the boat, but the article I found said that the strategy was to fill up as much as possible early, just to make sure the depth is getting shored up numbers wise, and then to start pushing guys out later in the cycle if scUM had success and started reeling in some bigger fish.

It will be interesting to see who decommits from scUM, and what their ratings will be, once NSD starts getting close.

That's what shitty about recruiting. Coaches see this as a team/ranking/money/keep my job type of approach. Where the kids see this as another chapter in their lives and are extremely excited they got into the school they had as #1 and will be playing on the field of their dreams so to speak.

All just to have it thrown away when a coach finds a better player at your position and tells you to kick rocks. Then perhaps their 2nd, 3rd choice etc. are filled up and he goes to a university that is mehh to him.

I understand the system - just sucks for the kids. I hate that I say kids now....old balls here.

 

[Big23Head]

Did not see this right away. That he commits to ND or in general. As of now, it sounds like he's Michigan's to lose and we'll really have to hit a home run to swing this back to us.

Yes, to ND. Anna has been quite confident about this for months. Always stating let him OV to ND

 

[Luckylucci]

Yes, to ND. Anna has been quite confident about this for months. Always stating let him OV to ND

Thanks.

 

[Irish#1]

He's a definite want, correct? What I mean is, we would be extra happy if he commits?

 

[koonja]

He's a definite want, correct? What I mean is, we would be extra happy if he commits?

JMO, but his film didn't impress me, but I'm of the mindset of 'take whatever you can get' at DL since we can't get any really talented ones, so it's whatevs.

 

[Luckylucci]

JMO, but his film didn't impress me, but I'm of the mindset of 'take whatever you can get' at DL since we can't get any really talented ones, so it's whatevs.

A couple things here.

1. I agree that I think he's a solid prospect but I'm a little unsure of where he fits in. Can he play SDE in our 4-3 or is going to end up like KLM and move inside to the 3T. I don't see an immediate impact player but one that will contribute in time.

2. Once again, the bolded, this simply isn't true. Our roster is littered with talented DL. Also, Julian Okwara is having himself a really good start to the season. Solid 4 star prospect there.

 

[PANDFAN]

Yes, to ND. Anna has been quite confident about this for months. Always stating let him OV to ND

according to 247...like lucci said...he is all UM but wanted to give the Irish a shot...one of the things is that it seemed like we may have cooled on him a bit as i believe the term he used was feeling wanted or something to that affect

 

[Sherm Sticky]

A couple things here.

1. I agree that I think he's a solid prospect but I'm a little unsure of where he fits in. Can he play SDE in our 4-3 or is going to end up like KLM and move inside to the 3T. I don't see an immediate impact player but one that will contribute in time.

2. Once again, the bolded, this simply isn't true. Our roster is littered with talented DL. Also, Julian Okwara is having himself a really good start to the season. Solid 4 star prospect there.

Littered with talented DL? I don't see the talent that you see for the 2016 roster.

Jones
Trumbetti
Rochelle
Tillery
Possibly: MDT, Hayes, Okwara and Cage

It sure isn't the days of KLM, Nix, Tuit, Williams, Lynch, Day

 

[Luckylucci]

Littered with talented DL? I don't see the talent that you see for the 2016 roster.

Jones
Trumbetti
Rochelle
Tillery
Possibly: MDT, Hayes, Okwara and Cage

It sure isn't the days of KLM, Nix, Tuit, Williams, Lynch, Day

It seems like we do this exercise every couple of weeks. Apparently we need to do it again. The statement was that we never seem to get good DL. Top 250ish DL we have on our roster currently,meaning ones we've recruited since 2012

Day
Isaac Rochell
D. Randolph (now at WDE)
Trumbetti
Hayes
Blankenship
Cage
Tillery
Taylor
Julian Okwara

That is 11 top 250ish DL we've signed or will sign over 5 recruiting cycles. That means that we are getting about 2 each cycle. I think this hardly constitutes the statement, we never seem to get the good ones.

 

[Sherm Sticky]

It seems like we do this exercise every couple of weeks. Apparently we need to do it again. The statement was that we never seem to get good DL. Top 250ish DL we have on our roster currently,meaning ones we've recruited since 2012

Day
Stanley
Isaac Rochell
D. Randolph (now at WDE)
Trumbetti
Hayes
Blankenship
Cage
Tillery
Taylor
Julian Okwara

That is 11 top 250ish DL we've signed or will sign over 5 recruiting cycles. That means that we are getting about 2 each cycle. I think this hardly constitutes the statement, we never seem to get the good ones.

Actually the statement was talented ones, not good ones. But whatever.

Stanley is an offensive linemen. you left Jarron Jones off the list. I don't recall Blankenship, Cage or Taylor being top 250ish players

 

[Luckylucci]

Actually the statement was talented ones, not good ones. But whatever.

Stanley is an offensive linemen. you left Jarron Jones off the list. I don't recall Blankenship, Cage or Taylor being top 250ish players

Fair point and I'd call a composite 4 star player a talented one.

I wrote this in a hurry and I should have said composite 4 star players not top 250ish. Point remains we're getting 2 talented DL per cycle on average. Thats not great but its definitely not never.

 

[dwshade]

Littered with talented DL? I don't see the talent that you see for the 2016 roster.

Jones
Trumbetti
Rochelle
Tillery
Possibly: MDT, Hayes, Okwara and Cage

It sure isn't the days of KLM, Nix, Tuit, Williams, Lynch, Day

Rochell is better than KLM, Tillery will be better than NIx, Tuitt's are few and far between. Williams? He didn't do much. Lynch? He was here for a cup of coffee. Not sure why people kept referencing him.

 

[Sherm Sticky]

Fair point and I'd call a composite 4 star player a talented one.

I wrote this in a hurry and I should have said composite 4 star players not top 250ish. Point remains we're getting 2 talented DL per cycle on average. Thats not great but its definitely not never.

I hear that.

But I also know where Koon is coming from. Other than Tillery and Rochelle we haven't had a Tuitt, Lynch, Nix, Day, Williams prospect come along in a while.

 

[GoldenToTheGrave]

Rochell is better than KLM, Tillery will be better than NIx, Tuitt's are few and far between. Williams? He didn't do much. Lynch? He was here for a cup of coffee. Not sure why people kept referencing him.

As far as career impact for DL in the Kelly era, my list would be:

(1) Kap
(2) Nix
(3) Tie between Tuitt and Day

Rochelle is on the trajectory to be #4 on that list.

 

[ACamp1900]

Why would the staff cool on a four star DL who has high interest... who else are we targeting that may take preference??

 

[Luckylucci]

I hear that.

But I also know where Koon is coming from. Other than Tillery and Rochelle we haven't had a Tuitt, Lynch, Nix, Day, Williams prospect come along in a while.

Well two of those guys produced very little for ND and relative to their production at ND were huge busts. So, I'll gladly take a Rochell over them every day of the week. Also, Trumbetti was a composite 143 which isn't far off a guy like Day at 111 and Rochell at 115.

So, if what we're talking about is then top 150 talent thats 8 guys over 5 years, including Jarron Jones at 148. Hardly a never scenario. Lastly, Tillery is a freshman so he just came a long within the last few months. It couldn't possibly be any sooner.

 

[Luckylucci]

Why would the staff cool on a four star DL who has high interest... who else are we targeting that may take preference??

2 things, IMO.

1. At the time when there was a lot of talk about space and spots it seemed like we'd have had a better shot at other players at DE and Carlo might not have a spot. And that has to do with a little of my second point.

2. Which is, he looks like a tweener prospect. Is he a SDE? He looks like he could easily grow into a 3T, ala KLM. If so, our need isn't for more DT's unless truly elite players.

So ultimately I think it comes down to how the staff thinks he develops and where he plays.