'11 IL WR DaVaris Daniels (Signed Notre Dame LOI)

[NDTampa]

No one else seemed confused about their fate .. Time to face the facts, DD was not a strong student and had a lot of favors to keep him eligible for as long as he was

If you listened to Power Hour, they stated that Keivarae Russell is unsure if he will be readmitted. He has to go through the whole process. So maybe he is a little confused.

 

[stlnd01]

But they did... KVR no doubts -- DD "umm .. well ... There's a chance you could be accepted for the Summer" I don't think it's hard to read between the lines here.

Yup.
Also possible the university did not take kindly to he and Dad's two-man social media campaign last fall. In addition to needing favors, Davaris seems to have done himself none.

As for his draft status, he is a well-put-together wide receiver, but there's a lot of those out there, including some with more than a couple of big games on their resume. He'll get a shot, for sure, but hard to see him being more than a last-day pick.

 

[CHIDomer9]

If you listened to Power Hour, they stated that Keivarae Russell is unsure if he will be readmitted. He has to go through the whole process. So maybe he is a little confused.

And therein lies the problem and exactly what they were referring to on Power Hour with regards to changes that need to happen. In a year where the schedule is set up favorably and nearly everyone is coming back, you cannot on one hand even remotely entertain the notion of not allowing back a first round draft pick that will probably be a top 3 corner AND still say you want to win championships. KVR has either done what was asked of him or he hasn't. There should not be any discretion about if he is allowed back in or not.

 

[CHIDomer9]

Yup.
Also possible the university did not take kindly to he and Dad's two-man social media campaign last fall. In addition to needing favors, Davaris seems to have done himself none.

As for his draft status, he is a well-put-together wide receiver, but there's a lot of those out there, including some with more than a couple of big games on their resume. He'll get a shot, for sure, but hard to see him being more than a last-day pick.

He's not a burner or a possession receiver and he doesn't finish routes. Would he have really been a best second option this year?

 

[kmoose]

I know no one agrees with me, but if true, this is bogus on behalf of the administration.

He shouldn't have to wait until summer to know if he'll be back. If he's not going to get accepted, tell him. Don't put him in a position to get screwed out of the draft or getting back into school. You have ALL of his academic records, all of the stuff he needs to do to graduate. I am not saying they should accept him. I'm saying they should tell him if he's going to get 'in' or not based on knowledge or records that WILL NOT CHANGE between the time he's out and applying again.

That's speculation on your part, and not very smart speculation, either. I would be shocked to find out that Daniels or any of the other "Frozen Five" did not have to take classes elsewhere and earn a certain minimum grade point average, in order to be reinstated. Therefore, until their final grades were in, the University would be unable to tell them if they had successfully completed the requirements of their suspension. Notice that KVR said in his recent tweet that he was taking 30 quarter hours at another institution to fulfill his obligations.

 

[ulukinatme]

He's not a burner or a possession receiver and he doesn't finish routes. Would he have really been a best second option this year?

He wasn't as fast as Brown, but he certainly wasn't slow. I thought he had pretty good hands as well, maybe not quite as good as TJ. He was certainly a play maker though, he would flash brilliance at times and then disappear for the rest of the season. I think a lot of people expected big things from him this season, but his academic issues finally caught up with him. It somewhat reassuring that we know he's moving on this point, he won't be factored into discussions for 2016 and we can stick with the players we know are going to do their jobs on and off the field without bellyaching on social media.

 

[koonja]

That's speculation on your part, and not very smart speculation, either. I would be shocked to find out that Daniels or any of the other "Frozen Five" did not have to take classes elsewhere and earn a certain minimum grade point average, in order to be reinstated. Therefore, until their final grades were in, the University would be unable to tell them if they had successfully completed the requirements of their suspension. Notice that KVR said in his recent tweet that he was taking 30 quarter hours at another institution to fulfill his obligations.

Speaking of speculation, you're assuming KVR (the only one we know is taking courses) is doing so because he has to, not because he wants to.

I don't think it's an obligation. For all we know, he's doing it because they'll count towards his degree, not because he won't be accepted if he doesn't.

Is Ishaq/was DD taking classes? I think that would have come out by now, which leads me to believe that KVR is taking classes to expedite graduation, not fulfill some requirement ND gave him.

 

[kmoose]

Speaking of speculation, you're assuming KVR (the only one we know is taking courses) is doing so because he has to, not because he wants to.

I don't think it's an obligation. For all we know, he's doing it because they'll count towards his degree, not because he won't be accepted if he doesn't.

Is Ishaq/was DD taking classes? I think that would have come out by now, which leads me to believe that KVR is taking classes to expedite graduation, not fulfill some requirement ND gave him.

You are correct......... your initial statement, by your own admission, is pointless speculation, because as you pointed out we don't know if Davaris is required to perform some academic work at another institution before he is reinstated or not. So stop with outrage about stuff you know no particulars about.

 

[koonja]

You are correct......... your initial statement, by your own admission, is pointless speculation, because as you pointed out we don't know if Davaris is required to perform some academic work at another institution before he is reinstated or not. So stop with outrage about stuff you know no particulars about.

It's a discussion board. We're allowed to speculate, especially when we have bits of info. If we're only allowed to talk facts, this site would have 3 members.

Not to mention, my opening statemet was 'if true'. So forgive me while I carry on discussing ND topics on a ND discussion board.

 

[GBdomer]

Kelly pushed strings to get Davaris in just like he has ton with other kids. I am glad to see the Golden Dome letting some of these kids in and working with BK. Even though I am sure at times he wants to burn that building to the ground.

Good luck to Davaris Daniels and I hope he tears it up. Davaris will be as good as he wants to be.

 

[kmoose]

It's a discussion board. We're allowed to speculate, especially when we have bits of info. If we're only allowed to talk facts, this site would have 3 members.

Not to mention, my opening statemet was 'if true'. So forgive me while I carry on discussing ND topics on a ND discussion board.

You can speculate. Hell, I speculate all of the time. But I also try to differentiate between opinion and speculation. You made the assertion that the Athletic Department not letting Daniels know if he was eligible until the end of the summer was crazy, because they already had all of the facts of the situation. The truth is that we don't know if they have all of the facts, because we don't know what all of the requirements for reinstatement are. So just stop whining about it, everytime the University holds kids accountable.

 

[IRISHMAN]

I think DD could be a very productive player in the nfl. imo he's as gifted a wr that has ever came through ND, for what ever reason his talents never seem to explode while at ND. hope he has a great career in what ever it maybe.

 

[kmoose]

I think DD could be a very productive player in the nfl. imo he's as gifted a wr that has ever came through ND, for what ever reason his talents never seem to explode while at ND. hope he has a great career in what ever it maybe.

You aren't really saying that you think Davaris is on the same plane as Michael Floyd, Rocket Ismail, and Tim Brown, are you?

 

[kmoose]

NFL.com's analysis on Davaris Daniels, leading up to the draft:

NFL Events: Combine Player Profiles - Davaris Daniels

Analysis

Strengths (Note: Analysis all from 2013 tape) Good height with a frame that should be able to add muscle. Catching the ball comes easy for him. Has very strong hands. Gets body squared to the throw and snatches away from his body. Willing to go over the middle and make contested catch in traffic. Stems and adjusts routes from the slot. Works back to the ball. Shows adequate acceleration from his release and can open a brief window up top. Able to reach back and snare throws behind him without breaking stride. Gets upfield after the catch rather than dancing. Puts his head down and charges forward to squeeze maximum yardage from catch.

Weaknesses (Note: Analysis all from 2013 tape) Suspended from team for academic reasons in January 2014 before being reinstated in summer. Dismissed from team for "academic dishonesty" and missed all of 2014. Average play speed and loses initial separation on go routes. Failed to track and adjust to wayward downfield throws effectively. Doesn't sink hips into breaks and accelerate out. Routes are rounded lacking crispness and allowing defender to wander in. Doesn't play to his size and can get muscled around inside his routes. Inconsistent to high-point catches allowing ball into defender's reach.

NFL Comparison Jarrett Boykin

Bottom Line Daniels suspension and then dismissal over academic dishonesty will need to be looked into, but the tape shows a receiver who is still learning to run better routes and maximize his size. Daniels lacks plus athleticism or speed and missing an entire year of football puts him behind in his wide receiver studies. His production and size could get him a look but he will likely need time to sharpen his skills as a receiver before he is ready to contribute.

 

[GoldenToTheGrave]

NFL.com's analysis on Davaris Daniels, leading up to the draft:

NFL Events: Combine Player Profiles - Davaris Daniels

Sounds fair. I can definitely see a team taking him in the 5th or later rounds, doesn't have the product on the field to justify higher IMO. Has looked great at some points, and then would disappear.

 

[IRISHFAN76]

So will DD be able to have a pro day at Notre Dame? Not sure how that works with the suspension for last year

 

[RyCo1983]

So will DD be able to have a pro day at Notre Dame? Not sure how that works with the suspension for last year

He's not an ND student, I can't imagine him being able to do that, not with the bridges he's burnt. He'll have to do work at the combine.

 

[IRISHFAN76]

He's not an ND student, I can't imagine him being able to do that, not with the bridges he's burnt. He'll have to do work at the combine.

Kind of what I figured. Just didn't know since he could of possible came back. And thought it would look good for ND to allow him to have a pro day. Ultimately DD just made to many bad choices at ND. Hope the very best for him though. CAN I GET A "WE ARE ND"

 

[irishfan]

I usually root for the Patriots to draft as many ND guys as possible (and they never do), but I really don't have an opinion of whether I want them to use a pick on DD. I wish him all the luck in the world, but I don't have much confidence he'll make it.

Felt the same was about Cierre coming out of college haha. He was actually on the Patriots practice squad at one point and I was hoping he'd be active for some games, but never made it big time.

 

[Sherm Sticky]

He's not an ND student, I can't imagine him being able to do that, not with the bridges he's burnt. He'll have to do work at the combine.

He could hold his own pro day at say his high school. Similar to what Tuitt did last year; as Tuitt would have gone through surgery before the ND pro day so he held his own before he had surgery.

 

[irishfan]

Josh Gordon had his Pro Day at the Texans' practice bubble at their facility. He was originally supposed to have it at Rice, but it was moved due to weather. You can always find a spot to do your Pro Day if you're a legit prospect.

 

[tko]

Davaris will not have more than 15 catches in his NFL career, mark it.

 

[Andy in Sactown]

Davaris will not have more than 15 catches in his NFL career, mark it.

No brotherly love coming out of Philadelphia, eh? Color me surprised.

I could actually see him getting picked up late by the Raiders.

 

[kmoose]

No brotherly love coming out of Philadelphia, eh? Color me surprised.

I could actually see him getting picked up late by the Raiders.

I could see him getting picked up late by a lot of times, and I could also see him having <15 catches in his NFL career. One of the knocks on him, from the NFL scouts, is that he is kind of a lazy route runner. That will NEVER fly at the next level. I guess we will just have to see how Daniels responds to the current adversity in his life.

 

[Nick Setta]

Davaris will not have more than 15 catches in his NFL career, mark it.

Sucks he didn't put up more work in the classroom.

 

[Sherm Sticky]

Wouldn't shock me. He needed one more year and after the first time he got caught cheating he shouldn't of been a dipshit.

He got caught cheating twice? I thought he was suspended due to poor grades.


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[Nick Setta]

He got caught cheating twice? I thought he was suspended due to poor grades.


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Actually you're right and I was wrong.

 

[Sherm Sticky]

Actually you're right and I was wrong.

Are you the Nick Setta?


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[Nick Setta]

Are you the Nick Setta?


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I wish.

 

[ulukinatme]

Are you the Nick Setta?


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