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I'm down for the committee being made up of 1 rep from each conference (conference comiish) and one to rep the Independent (Jack).
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Drop the committee entirely and let the the BCS rank the top 8 and let them play in a playoff. If a "Big 5" conference champ can't crack the top 8 they are pathetic and shouldn't be playing for it all anyway.
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The Pac 12, Big 12, B1G, and Notre Dame would never agree to that. They held up the four team playoff for years. Give the conference champ their due and let the other three come from a BCS ratings system.
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This
Bingo... been saying this for a long time. I think it would also drive more parity amongst the conferences.
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Committee is ok if they are non bias and honest. That's the rub-how do you get to that. Jeff Long and his crew don't give me a feeling that there would not be bias. I think Notre Dame always will get short changed unless they are very very obvious 11-1/12-0. One things for sure 4 is a rip and it should be 8 teams.
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The National Championship Game is on a Monday night. Why wouldn't they have it on a Saturday? So stupid.
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Why wouldn't Notre Dame agree to it? Under your system ND only has 3 potential slots, under my system they would have 8. It's much easier to be in the top 8 than to be in the top 3 non conference champions. I don't think ND would agree to a system where 9-4 B1G champion Wisconsin gets into the playoffs over 11-1 or even 10-2 ND.
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For the very same reason ND and the other three conferences kept voting down the four team playoff. They all wanted guarantees for playoff spots. Going to eight may give them a better chance to get in, but excluding conf champs from the potential to be in the top eight would be a non starter.
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Why? The supposed mission of the committee is to find "the best 4." They are claiming conference affiliation bears no meaning on their selections-- it's simply the best 4. Why couldn't the best 8 make it?
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TT, I'm with ickythump. I don't see why ND would not be in favor of the top 8, regardless of conference champs. Could you explain it to me as if I were a 7 year old?
And if we went to 8, and the 5 conferences got auto-bids, 3 spots remaining would be plenty. Keep in mind, those 5 conference teams would be taking up a spot they most likely would get if it were an all out, 8 best teams regardless of conference.
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But we really don't know that just yet with the committee. How much weight are they going to give conf champs? I agree on the best four, eight, whatever number but I just think conference presidents aren't going to sign up for any expansion where they aren't guaranteed a spot. ND is unique and I would think they would rather have eight than four. The Irish having no guarantees it would make sense to expand to eight to give them a chance at one of the three. Maybe my post was not very well written. Sorry.
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I think more people would watch at 9pm on a Saturday over 9pm on a Monday.
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There is more to do at 9 pm on Saturday away from a TV than there is at 9 pm Monday. But I'd rather have it be a Saturday game.
The reason for the New "Championship Monday" is to have a celebration weekend kinda like NFL does with the Super Bowl. The College Football Hall of Fame inductions will happen those weekends.
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FBS coaches would prefer eight-team playoff, ESPN poll shows - ESPN
Seems that a lot of the FBS coaches have the same idea for a playoff format that's been tossed around out here. I say make it happen.
Seems that a lot of the FBS coaches have the same idea for a playoff format that's been tossed around out here. I say make it happen.
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Aside from making the (often) jacked-up conference title games matter?
I dunno. I think the more teams you add to the playoff, the more you devalue the regular season - which is what makes college football such a tremendous sport. Every game matters.
At eight teams, you can lose twice and still make it in. Actually you're almost guaranteed to have two-loss teams in there. Even worse, you can be one of those 7-5, unranked, divisional champs of the ACC Coastal or Big Ten West, score an upset in the conference title game, and get in over far more deserving teams. If Ga. Tech beats FSU, do they really deserve a spot more than, say, an Ole Miss team that'd have beaten Miss. State and Alabama? (and with just two losses, Ga. Tech is a pretty high-quality ACC Coastal champ).
It makes the regular season significantly less important, all in the name of a couple of big TV shows in January. I agree it's probably inevitable, but I think it'd be a mistake.
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The bigger the playoff, the worse the story lines. Think about it. How often is the outcome of a #7 team versus a #13 team a national story in college basketball? Never, because both teams will be in the tournament so pfft. Already this season conversations have become all about "Who's In? (TM)" and not "who's the best team, what are the exciting matchups, etc." The big regular season games used to be a big deal in their own right, now they only matter in their relationship to the Playoff.
I defend ESPN for many of the attacks around here but the Playoff is the one thing where complaints about a media-driven money grab would be totally legitimate and nobody is saying a word.
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7v13 would be a much bigger deal if they only played 12 regular season games.
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1) F Michigan State...per the usual
2) Anyone see that Arkansas is getting votes in the other two poles and is ranked in ESPN's top 25 power rankings?! FIVE-LOSS ARKANSAS...because they're in the SEC-W. FacePalm
3) Did I hear correctly that the committee is now using previous rankings to determine new rankings? As in: "Team X was ranked in the top 10 when Team Y beat them, so Team Y gets a higher bump now." Aren't these rankings supposed to reset every single week?! Meaning they're not supposed to use previous rankings while voting. Another reason NOT to release rankings until the very end of the year and look at every teams' full body of work.
2014 NCAA College Football Polls and Rankings for Week 14 - ESPN
2) Anyone see that Arkansas is getting votes in the other two poles and is ranked in ESPN's top 25 power rankings?! FIVE-LOSS ARKANSAS...because they're in the SEC-W. FacePalm
3) Did I hear correctly that the committee is now using previous rankings to determine new rankings? As in: "Team X was ranked in the top 10 when Team Y beat them, so Team Y gets a higher bump now." Aren't these rankings supposed to reset every single week?! Meaning they're not supposed to use previous rankings while voting. Another reason NOT to release rankings until the very end of the year and look at every teams' full body of work.
2014 NCAA College Football Polls and Rankings for Week 14 - ESPN
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8 is to many, 6 teams top 2 get a bye
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Agree that four it too little. But disagree that eight is too many. Five conference champs and 3 at-large bids seems the most fair.
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Then I have absolutely no idea why FSU isn't #1 considering we were #5 when they beat us.
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It's hilarious that the committee said they would start fresh with a clean slate every week, but the Chairman goes and says that they take into account where teams were ranked when they played.....just a slight contradiction.
It's going to be a complete farce if the SEC West gets 2 teams in. Still riding that hype from September and October....
Their best win is over 8-3 (soon to be 8-4) Auburn. After that, they've beaten a couple of unranked 7-4 teams. Let a conference champ get the #4 spot, not a team who can't win its own division and played a cupcake OOC schedule.
It's going to be a complete farce if the SEC West gets 2 teams in. Still riding that hype from September and October....
Their best win is over 8-3 (soon to be 8-4) Auburn. After that, they've beaten a couple of unranked 7-4 teams. Let a conference champ get the #4 spot, not a team who can't win its own division and played a cupcake OOC schedule.
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For some reason I can't embed tweets right now, but Stewart Mandel tweeted a bunch of quotes from Jeff Long last night.
Although, he did follow up with this tweet:
So I'm not entirely sure. Part of me feels they do and Long admitted it, then realized he shouldn't have said it and backpedaled. NOTE: I didn't see the interview though, so it's completely out of context.
Although, he did follow up with this tweet:
So I'm not entirely sure. Part of me feels they do and Long admitted it, then realized he shouldn't have said it and backpedaled. NOTE: I didn't see the interview though, so it's completely out of context.
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The quote about a "bad loss being to sub-.500 teams but not the OSU/VT example" is the biggest bunch of horseshit ever. He specifically describes what they consider a bad loss. Then in the next breath says that OSU's loss to 5-6 VT wasn't bad. Seriously, fuq this committee and their subjective, ever-changing criteria bullshit.