NCAA Playoff Committee Rankings 2014 (Unranked)

[Cackalacky]

#10 with AZ St jumping us.
I'm happy with that.

Best case scenario right there. Thank you CFPC

 

[T Town Tommy]

So....should we be concerned with #11 Ole Miss jumping us the last week of the year if they beat Miss State?

I'm pretty happy with these rankings though. The committee clearly thinks the B1G is trash. I really think an 11-1 ND can beat out a 12-1 Mich State and definitely a 12-1 OSU.

Really, my biggest concern is TCU. K-State still has to go to WVU and to Baylor. I think they definitely drop one of those games. TCU, however, has a joke of a schedule after playing Kansas State this week. We really, really need KSU to knock of TCU this weekend.

I don't think you beat out a B1G champ in MSU. The Buckeyes you will. I do agree that TCU is sitting pretty good right now. But I am not sold on them being there in the end.

 

[Irish Insanity]

True. But our win at USC would be more impressive than any team the B1G can put in that game against OSU/MSU. Right?

I would think so, but more impressive the week before. What have you done for me lately. OSU destroys UofM the same week, then Nebraska a week we are idle. It's possible.

Even if ND wins out they won't be in. Don't be disappointed. Until we join a conference it won't happen. "Start the hate"

That's the way I see it. Undefeated is what we need to be to get in without a conference championship.

 

[ohara831]

#10 is about the best we could expect after the Navy game.

 

[ickythump1225]

Just glad we didn't cede any ground honestly. I'm fine with ASU being ahead of us because that sets up for a "top ten" road win if we beat them.
If we, LSU, and Utah take care of business we could conceivably be #6 by this time next week. Only 2 spots out with 3 games to go isn't a terrible place to be.

 

[BleedBlueGold]

Alabama ahead of TCU is garbage. Bama has ONE win over ranked teams and TCU just beat that team this past weekend, making it their THIRD win over a ranked team. Give me a fucking break. No SEC bias? Fuck that.

"We felt like, at this point, Alabama is a better team."

Jeff Long comparing Alabama to TCU.

How fucking subjective is that?! Bama has played NO ONE to this point. They'll get their chance to prove themselves. But for them to come out and say that...holy shit.

 

[T Town Tommy]

Alabama ahead of TCU is garbage. Bama has ONE win over ranked teams and TCU just beat that team this past weekend, making it their THIRD win over a ranked team. Give me a fucking break. No SEC bias? Fuck that.

"We felt like, at this point, Alabama is a better team."

Jeff Long comparing Alabama to TCU.

How fucking subjective is that?! Bama has played NO ONE to this point. They'll get their chance to prove themselves. But for them to come out and say that...holy shit.

Doesn't matter at this point. But if Bama played TCU anywhere... I would love our chances. Plenty of time for things to work themselves out.

 

[nd_fan]

In this CFP era of 4 teams, ND either has to go undefeated every season or join a conference for a playoff spot. Otherwise it looks like we will be always look in from the outside.

 

[BleedBlueGold]

Doesn't matter at this point. But if Bama played TCU anywhere... I would love our chances. Plenty of time for things to work themselves out.

Thanks for proving my point. That's a biased comment about a team you THINK is better than another. But at this point in the season, TCU is more accomplished and the rankings don't back that up. It's bullshit and causes me to have little faith in them getting the Four right in the end of they're already playing favorites. Bama most certainly has a chance to prove they belong. But at the moment? No.

 

[GATTACA!]

In this CFP era of 4 teams, ND either has to go undefeated every season or join a conference for a playoff spot. Otherwise it looks like we will be always look in from the outside.

I completely disagree. We wouldnt be in the predicament if Michigan and Stanford both didnt happen to be dog shit this year, and that we happen to not have MSU this year. Any other year and we would be sitting in a much better position with the wins we already have.

 

[T Town Tommy]

Thanks for proving my point. That's a biased comment about a team you THINK is better than another. But at this point in the season, TCU is more accomplished and the rankings don't back that up. It's bullshit and causes me to have little faith in them getting the Four right in the end of they're already playing favorites. Bama most certainly has a chance to prove they belong. But at the moment? No.

My point was that I liked our chances if we played TCU. Where we are in the polls right now... I don't really care. It will take care of itself one way or the other.

 

[Irish YJ]

I completely disagree. We wouldnt be in the predicament if Michigan and Stanford both didnt happen to be dog shit this year, and that we happen to not have MSU this year. Any other year and we would be sitting in a much better position with the wins we already have.

yep

 

[BleedBlueGold]

My point was that I liked our chances if we played TCU. Where we are in the polls right now... I don't really care. It will take care of itself one way or the other.

Of course you don't care. Your team is the "favorite child."

Are you telling me that come final rankings, if a less accomplished team gets ranked ahead of a more accomplished team, you'd be ok with that?

Team-X has more quality wins..."Yeah well we feel Team-Y is better even without the quality wins."

That's exactly what they're doing now. And who's to say they won't do it again later on?

 

[T Town Tommy]

Of course you don't care. Your team is the "favorite child."

Are you telling me that come final rankings, if a less accomplished team gets ranked ahead of a more accomplished team, you'd be ok with that?

Team-X has more quality wins..."Yeah well we feel Team-Y is better even without the quality wins."

That's exactly what they're doing now. And who's to say they won't do it again later on?

I am saying the poll on Nov 4th means little to me. The last poll that decides the top four means more. We will either prove we belong on the field of play or we won't. That's what I am saying. I could say I think Bama is better than Miss St, FSU, and Oregon as well. That's being a fan and having confidence in my team. But where they are in relation to any other team on Nov 4th is really meanigless to me. If we win out I think we get one of the slots. If we lose one, we don't. Pretty simple.

 

[phork]

Even if ND wins out they won't be in. Don't be disappointed. Until we join a conference it won't happen. "Start the hate"

But the BIG12 doesnt have a conference championship...

In this CFP era of 4 teams, ND either has to go undefeated every season or join a conference for a playoff spot. Otherwise it looks like we will be always look in from the outside.

Here is a clue, more often the top 2 teams will usually be undefeated. A 1 loss ND team will most certainly always make it.

 

[Blaise]

I will wait on my feelings until after this week... If we beat ASU.. a top 10 team, and don't get a bump into top 7... I will question our chances in this system this year

 

[IrishLax]

Best case scenario right there. Thank you CFPC

Seriously.

Underdog on the road with opportunity for a top 10 win. Can't ask for better.

 

[Wild Bill]

I am saying the poll on Nov 4th means little to me. The last poll that decides the top four means more. We will either prove we belong on the field of play or we won't. That's what I am saying. I could say I think Bama is better than Miss St, FSU, and Oregon as well. That's being a fan and having confidence in my team. But where they are in relation to any other team on Nov 4th is really meanigless to me. If we win out I think we get one of the slots. If we lose one, we don't. Pretty simple.

TCU can't say the same even though they probably have a better resume. Where they sit in the polls on Nov 4th is meaningful to them, that's for sure.

 

[ND NYC]

man i don't know if i can handle dealing with what appears to be "Results of CFP poll Tuesday Nights!" every year tbqh...it is exhausting

 

[IrishinSyria]

I am saying the poll on Nov 4th means little to me. The last poll that decides the top four means more. We will either prove we belong on the field of play or we won't. That's what I am saying. I could say I think Bama is better than Miss St, FSU, and Oregon as well. That's being a fan and having confidence in my team. But where they are in relation to any other team on Nov 4th is really meanigless to me. If we win out I think we get one of the slots. If we lose one, we don't. Pretty simple.

Yea, where Bama is in the polls doesn't concern me because it will work itself out. I am curious how the committee is supposed to apply the eyeball test without taking margin of victory into account, but w/e.

Not true for some other teams. One team I'm really worried about Miss St. If they lose to Bama and Bama wins the SEC, there's a good chance both make the playoffs. I think it would take a near miracle for Florida St. or Oregon to lose at this point. That's my nightmare scenario.

 

[T Town Tommy]

TCU can't say the same even though they probably have a better resume. Where they sit in the polls on Nov 4th is meaningful to them, that's for sure.

I would not have any problem with them above us at this point. At the end of it all, if we both have one loss I think my team will be ahead of them. But yeah.. I could see where a TCU fan would be a little upset. In the end I still have confidence that as this month moves along, we will start to see the whole thing taking shape.

I am torn a little however. Do we cheer for clarity and the hope the four team model works out like a charm? Or do we cheer for chaos in the hopes they go to eight teams quicker? I want to see eight but that's just me.

 

[Wild Bill]

Seriously.

Underdog on the road with opportunity for a top 10 win. Can't ask for better.

Nope. Best case scenario it pushes us past MSU in the rankings and we'd be sitting at #7 next week. Well within striking distance.

 

[T Town Tommy]

Yea, where Bama is in the polls doesn't concern me because it will work itself out. I am curious how the committee is supposed to apply the eyeball test without taking margin of victory into account, but w/e.

Not true for some other teams. One team I'm really worried about Miss St. If they lose to Bama and Bama wins the SEC, there's a good chance both make the playoffs. I think it would take a near miracle for Florida St. or Oregon to lose at this point. That's my nightmare scenario.

Yeah that scenerio would be a mess. I still think that somewhere in there - maybe in the background right now - conference championships have to mean something. If Miss St loses to Bama but wins out after that, who is to say they are better than a one loss Mich St, TCU, KSU, ND or Ohio St. That would certainly be up for debate.

 

[ND NYC]

so is it:
go KSU!
go Buckeyes!
go Sooners!
go Utes!
go ND!
go Aggies!
go Virginia!

go Presbyterian!
go Tennesee-Martin!
record screech...

huh?

go BAMA?
not sure here. edwards guy on espn just made a case that we (ND, TCU) should want Bama to win...not sure what his rationale was though.

 

[Irish#1]

#10 with AZ St jumping us.
I'm happy with that.

There's a little motivation for the team.

 

[Wild Bill]

I would not have any problem with them above us at this point. At the end of it all, if we both have one loss I think my team will be ahead of them. But yeah.. I could see where a TCU fan would be a little upset. In the end I still have confidence that as this month moves along, we will start to see the whole thing taking shape.

I am torn a little however. Do we cheer for clarity and the hope the four team model works out like a charm? Or do we cheer for chaos in the hopes they go to eight teams quicker? I want to see eight but that's just me.

TTT, I'm going to shoot you straight - I really don't give a sh!t as long as ND secures a spot.

I do prefer 8, though.

 

[Crazy Balki]

You need to be a big OSU fan this weekend. I know it's hard but it's much better for them to beat MSU than to have MSU win. If the Sparties win out, they will be ahead of you and be a conf. champ. That will be hard for the Irish to overcome. If OSU wins out, your one loss trumps the Bucks one loss by a mile. But you already knew all that.

I don't agree with that. The conference championship game is almost a non-factor since it will be against a mediocre team most likely (Nebraska at best). If ND ends up beating ASU. ND will have a win over a top 10 team on it's resume, along with a 4 point loss on the road to an undefeated #2 team. Meanwhile, MSU has no wins over top 10 teams, 2 likely wins over top 20 teams (both at home), and a very ugly loss against a top 5 team with 1-loss. Honestly, if ND and MSU win out, and MSU moves on, it would be a total crime. Remember, that one of those wins was against an FCS team, so really MSU only has 12 real games.

 

[T Town Tommy]

I don't agree with that. The conference championship game is almost a non-factor since it will be against a mediocre team most likely (Nebraska at best). If ND ends up beating ASU. ND will have a win over a top 10 team on it's resume, along with a 4 point loss on the road to an undefeated #2 team. Meanwhile, MSU has no wins over top 10 teams, 2 likely wins over top 20 teams (both at home), and a very ugly loss against a top 5 team with 1-loss. Honestly, if ND and MSU win out, and MSU moves on, it would be a total crime. Remember, that one of those wins was against an FCS team, so really MSU only has 12 real games.

Only if Nebraska hits the skids before getting to their conference title game. If they go in ranked in the top 15 or so, a win by Mich St against them means much more. If OSU wins out, their loss to Va Tech - a team with potentially 6+ losses - is going to look worse. That's my thinking anyway.

 

[Irishbounty28]

I feel that FCS wins should be counted as .5 in the win column in regards to how the CFPC weights wins and losses. So in essence, after this weekend Mississippi State will be rated based on having 7.5 wins. And if Notre Dame wins they would be rated on 8 wins with 1 loss. This would pretty much even out the bias for a conference championship game, because games would be weighted based on value of opponent, and not just "Big" games against ranked opponents.

In this scenario, if Notre Dame were to win out we would be rated as having won 11 games and losing 1, while even if Mississippi State were to win out and win the conference championship game the would be rated on 11.5 wins and 0 losses.

I know that this will never happen but it seems a way to detract teams from scheduling additional "Bye" weeks. Thoughts?

 

[GoldenDomer]

Todays rankings make me believe we can control our own destiny. SEC judgement day is coming, the SEC West and Big 12 teams are gonna knock each other out.