Does 1 Loss End ND's Playoff Hopes?

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

The committee said they are emphasizing conference championships. That doesn't help us at all. We don't have that first Saturday of December victory that's fresh in their minds. They are still human afterall. Arizona State is a good, maybe great team. Beating them won't be as impressive because they aren't a traditional power. The Pac-12 is beating itself up too much to have a really impressive win from it. The Big 10 is probably going to have a one loss team: OSU or Sparty. That doesn't bode well for us.

 

[IrishinSyria]

It's college football and there are 5 games left before championships. Things are going to get weird. IF we can win out, we will have a very very good shot at getting in.

 

[itchyBEAR]

By my count we will fall to 8 or 9 in the rankings. Win out and we have a better chance then I ever imagined before the season began.

 

[Ignats]

The main problem is Oregon. Stanford simply doesn't have the offense to punch them in the mouth like they've done in the past, otherwise I would normally think they could slip up there. Just hoping that someone beats them or that loss at home stings.

 

[Rhode Irish]

Our loss is better than oregon's. We will have a lot of that same wins, but they'll have Michigan State. I don't trust them to win out anyways. They're soft.

 

[nlroma1o]

We are fuked... theres no way the committee votes us in... the entire country hates us...

 

[GATTACA!]

What loss is better? Us losing to FSU or MSU's loss to Oregon? I have to imagine the loss to FSU especially if they run the table.

 

[ickythump1225]

We have the best loss of any 1 loss team in the nation right now. If there was any justice in the world we wouldn't be jumped by any 1 loss team come tomorrow. If we win out I feel confident we'll get in. If not I'll take a big bowl game and a win there. 12-1 with almost every single important player coming back next year? I'd take it.

There's still 5 weeks left. Remember the crazy turn of events that had to happen for us the make the NCG in 2012? That didn't happen until 10 games into the season. So much football to be played. If we just handle business all we can do is hope for the best.

We can hang with anybody anywhere anytime. BK is building an elite program. It hurts now but we're still climbing. By this time next year I have a feeling we'll be stomping people.

 

[ulukinatme]

Really need Oregon to lose, and probably Michigan State. MSU will probably be ahead of us in the polls come tomorrow. If those two teams lose one, and they don't send two SEC teams, we have a chance. Close loss or not, it's going to be close if we win out. Only 12-0 guarantees you a spot.

 

[NDTH91]

We have the best loss of any 1 loss team in the nation right now. If there was any justice in the world we wouldn't be jumped by any 1 loss team come tomorrow. If we win out I feel confident we'll get in. If not I'll take a big bowl game and a win there. 12-1 with almost every single important player coming back next year? I'd take it.

There's still 5 weeks left. Remember the crazy turn of events that had to happen for us the make the NCG in 2012? That didn't happen until 10 games into the season. So much football to be played. If we just handle business all we can do is hope for the best.

We can hang with anybody anywhere anytime. BK is building an elite program. It hurts now but we're still climbing. By this time next year I have a feeling we'll be stomping people.

nailed it. I'm hammered right now but we have the best loss in the country and there is no way we don't make the playoff if we win out and fsu wins out. get pumped boys, lets go do this

 

[alohagoirish]

Much of the pessimism involves a lack of confidence in how the pollsters will treat us tomorrow and going forward, so its worth remembering that the polls will not factor into the selection as they have in the BCS. If FSU is #1----an ND TEAM at 11-1 will be a virtual lock for the playoffs.

Unfortunately a one loss FSU team would likely take our spot---I hate that so much---its a distasteful spot for us but we need to hope for an undefeated FSU and 11wins. We will get in irrespective of the polls under those circumstances.

 

[BGIF]

Earlier in the Post Game thread FBolt commented that he could see ND falling as far as 12th.

Earlier on Saturday before the games were played. I was looking at the polls and saw a loss could drop us down as far as 15th or so.

Then the games started and one loss teams started to fall. Then BU went down. Then OU. Then Bammer looked like 2012 and treated A&M like a buy game.

It wasn't until after the game that loss sank in. I believed we would win and I had confidence on the last drive. No anxiety, no nail biting. And we did win until the pick got flagged.

Then I reconciled myself that ND's worst lost was to the #1 or #2 team by a ref taking the winning points off the board. I don't expect the incestuous coaches poll to reflect that or that putz in Michigan who finally put us in the poll last week but I do expect the Playoff Committee will reflect on that game. ND dominated all the stats, Total O, Time of Possession, etc on the road. All the stats but one, the one that matters after the gun, the score.

Then I watched ND's best win, Stanford, go down to ASU worse than ND beat them. On the surface not the best result for Sunday's polls BUT it will raise a future opponent in the polls and perhaps permit ND to springboard of a win over a one loss team down the road. USC won big over a hapless team but to pollsters an impressive USC win. Good for ND's future schedule.

ND needs help as could drop to the teens in the polls although I feel we are better than any one loss team in the polls. I keep us behind FSU and the state of Mississippi. But recognizing the SEC love, I see us dropping behind AU and UA. I also see pollsters rationalizing ORE and MSU ranked over ND and throw in UGA dropping ND to 8th or even 9th. The price of independence (or semi-independence) and not losing earlier in the season.

Unfortunately if we don't make the Playoff 4, I can see ND playing in a late December bowl even with an 11-1 record because of existing contractual tie-ins.

Rest up, then BEAT NAVY!

One game at a time while the others cooperate and beat each other up.

 

[BGIF]

Much of the pessimism involves a lack of confidence in how the pollsters will treat us tomorrow and going forward, so its worth remembering that the polls will not factor into the selection as they have in the BCS. If FSU is #1----an ND TEAM at 11-1 will be a virtual lock for the playoffs.

Unfortunately a one loss FSU team would likely take our spot---I hate that so much---its a distasteful spot for us but we need to hope for an undefeated FSU and 11wins. We will get in irrespective of the polls under those circumstances.

The polls aren't part of the selection process per se but I don't see a #9 or #10 in the polls jumping over 5 or 6 other teams to make the playoffs. In an 8 team format it would be feasible.

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

Now our hopes are banked on a committee we know absolutely nothing about. When do they release their first poll?

 

[ryno 24]

Next Tuesday

 

[ryno 24]

Alabama could loseto Auburn, then Georgia could lose to Auburn and One of Ole Miss or Mississippi State will lose hopefully Miss. St. loses to Alabama. We need Oregon to lose to one more team. Its possible.

 

[DillonHall]

Don't forget what happened in 1993. We may get the last laugh.

 

[Irish2155]

Everybody will lose to somebody...one loss ND team is golden.

 

[arahop]

Don't forget what happened in 1993. We may get the last laugh.

This is exactly what I thought about last night after the game

 

[rtrn2glory]

we need things to go our way and win out to get back into the discussion

two losses though is definitely a big time bowl for us without a doubt though imo

 

[rtrn2glory]

Next Tuesday

is this basically the new BCS rankings?

 

[Irish2155]

we need things to go our way and win out to get back into the discussion

two losses though is definitely a big time bowl for us without a doubt though imo

We don't need sh!t but to win out. ASU is my only worry.

 

[rtrn2glory]

We don't need sh!t but to win out. ASU is my only worry.

i hope you're right

winning out will be hard enough

don't forget about going to LA the last week of the year as well.

it'll be interesting to see where we stand in this week's pulls

bye week at a perfect time.

 

[Irish2155]

i hope you're right

winning out will be hard enough

don't forget about going to LA the last week of the year as well.
it'll be interesting to see where we stand in this week's pulls

bye week at a perfect time.

We're going to smoke that team, on the road.

 

[Blaise]

Before last week I thought an 11-1 ND team had a tough time making the playoff... However, the way they dominated FSU in every way but the scoreboard... and with Bayslor and Oklahoma losing... Gives me real hope... SEC champ is in... If Oregon runs table they r in.. but I think FSU can lose a game to Lville next week and if they don't they are in, but I believe that loss shows ND is real...
Big Weeks here on out.. Have to handle teams... Can't play down to Navy... Need to get style points

 

[ACamp1900]

Just like before the game, that would have ended FSU s chances... ND still has realistic hope but need a lot of help... All they can do is win out...

 

[Irish Insanity]

Just like in 2012, it takes one weekend for it all to change. Even if we are 10ish in the poles, we still have a shot.

And how many before the season thought we would?

 

[Irish Insanity]

And we SHOULD (but probably won't) be 6th. Baylor should fall below us and Alabama and Auburn jump us.

 

[irishfan]

The only team that will have a "better" loss is Bama at Ole Miss if Ole Miss finishes undefeated.

FSU will get a spot. The SEC #1 will get a spot. That leaves two spots.

It will come down to 11-1 ND or

SEC #2 if they're 11-1 and finish second in the SEC West

Oregon at 12-1

MSU/OSU at 12-1 and B1G champs

Big-12 champ if they finish 11-1

 

[Irish2155]

The only team that will have a "better" loss is Bama at Ole Miss if Ole Miss finishes undefeated.

FSU will get a spot. The SEC #1 will get a spot. That leaves two spots.

It will come down to 11-1 ND or

SEC #2 if they're 11-1 and finish second in the SEC West

Oregon at 12-1

MSU/OSU at 12-1 and B1G champs

Big-12 champ if they finish 11-1

It is us, no question.