ND up to #16 in USN&WR

[IrishLax]

National University Rankings | Top National Universities | US News Best Colleges | page 2

Feel like we've been between 18 and 20 forever.

 

[RuntheBall]

This is why I am finally getting job offers...

 

[MNIrishman]

National University Rankings | Top National Universities | US News Best Colleges | page 2

Feel like we've been between 18 and 20 forever.

Gotta mix it up sometime haha... What's really funny is that scUM is #29 this year. The mouthbreathers at mgoblow are upset at this and taking consolation in the Times Higher Education rankings, which place them highly, ND and Vanderbilt around 80, and Dartmouth around 120. That's because the Times really only measures research (research expenditure, number of graduate students, number of foreign graduate students) as a representation of quality. Granted USNWR has some major flaws (they should completely get rid of the 25% weighted reputation score, which is based on faculty at other universities and is too heavily research focused. Without it, ND would be ranked in the top ten, or so I've heard), but it's a better measure of undergraduate education quality than the times.

 

[wizards8507]

Gotta mix it up sometime haha... What's really funny is that scUM is #29 this year. The mouthbreathers at mgoblow are upset at this and taking consolation in the Times Higher Education rankings, which place them highly, ND and Vanderbilt around 80, and Dartmouth around 120. That's because the Times really only measures research (research expenditure, number of graduate students, number of foreign graduate students) as a representation of quality. Granted USNWR has some major flaws (they should completely get rid of the 25% weighted reputation score, which is based on faculty at other universities and is too heavily research focused. Without it, ND would be ranked in the top ten, or so I've heard), but it's a better measure of undergraduate education quality than the times.

I'm not sure about top 10 but it's pretty well-known that Catholic schools are notoriously under-rated by those metrics. There's a certain taint of anti-religiosity among the "intellectual elite" who compose the faculty pool.

 

[MNIrishman]

I'm not sure about top 10 but it's pretty well-known that Catholic schools are notoriously under-rated by those metrics. There's a certain taint of anti-religiosity among the "intellectual elite" who compose the faculty pool.

A better metric would be employers across different disciplines who actually have had interaction with alumni in professional capacity. I suppose that would be biased too because we ARE the employers.

 

[GoldenDomer]

ND and Brown should play a football game to settle the tie.

 

[MNIrishman]

ND and Brown should play a football game to settle the tie.

The Ivy League is like the SEC of academics. Brown gets an artificial boost for being in the club even though it's a den of dirty hippies.

 

[gkIrish]

#16 Overall

#1 Business

 

[wizards8507]

ND and Brown should play a football game to settle the tie.

The Ivy League is like the SEC of academics. Brown gets an artificial boost for being in the club even though it's a den of dirty hippies.

Lol my mom is the department manager for Classics (Greek, Latin, Sanskrit) at Brown. The dirtiest denniest hippiest of the bunch. That said, hippie kids love good food if anyone wants to meet me on Thayer Street for a falafel pocket.