QB guru George Whitefield's resume called into question

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QB guru George Whitfield's resume called into question in report | FOX Sports on MSN

A Shreveport Times story titled "Resume of 'Quarterback Whisperer' appears fraudulent" quickly made its way around the Internet earlier this week. The Quarterback Whisperer in question is George Whitfield, who in the past five years has gone from obscurity to being a national name in football circles having trained Ben Roethlisberger, Cam Newton and Johnny Manziel, among others.
The story focused on the bio information listed on Whitfield's website that included short stints playing arena football from 2001-2006 with the Chicago Rush, Louisville Fire, Memphis Xplorers and Bossier City Battle Wings. The story quoted the owner of the Battle Wings, Dan Newman, saying, “I can find no record of George Whitfield playing AFL or af2 and he certainly never played for us.”
On Tuesday night, Mike Hohensee, who has been in arena football for 28 seasons and was the coach of the Chicago Rush from 2001-08, told FOX Sports he found Whitfield at an open tryout in Pennslyvania. "We had about 250 players come out and he was one of the two players we kept," Hohensee said. "I did coach him. He came to camp. We were loaded at quarterback and he didn't make it."
Hohensee thought Whitfield spent around three or four weeks with the Rush, but conceded that it has been a long time since then and that a whole bunch of players have come in and out of arenaball, so it's not so easy to recall exactly for how long.
"He needed to learn the game," the coach said. "That was his first experience with (arena football), so I recommended he play at one of the lower levels. He was a student of the game with a great atitiude. He took coaching well and he applied it quickly. He just didn't have the experience. I remember I made a couple of calls for him."

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Whitfield, who was a record-setting quarterback at D2 Tiffin University after transferring out of Youngstown State, had told me in prior conversations that he was working at a bar in Iowa when he made the drive to the Pittsburgh area for that open tryout. Reached Wednesday morning, Whitfield said, "I'm not really sure what more there is for me to say about any of this."
The Shreveport Times story mentioned that "Arenafan.com is the consummate source for Arena Football and there is no George Whitfield, Jr. in their database," but there actually is a story on that site mentioning Whitfield playing quarterback for the Louisville Fire in a 2004 exhibition game and throwing two touchdowns.
Ryan Russell, now the strength coach at Auburn, played wide receiver for the Fire. He told FOX Sports that he roomed with Whitfield for about a month when they were teammates in Louisville.
"I remember being impressed with his knowldge of football," Russell said. "He lived and breathed football."
 

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As long as he made Golson a better football player, I don't really care what his resume says.

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I coached against him when he was at Tiffin. He was not record setting or really even any good. I was surprised when I learned he was the same guy. Doesn't mean he isn't a good "coach" now. Just saying he was average at best in college.
 
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I don't give two michigans if he played or not.
 

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I really don't think anyone considered him an expert QB guru because of his playing resume.

I think the work he has done actually training QB's says everything that you need to know.

Sad that anybody in the public eye is just a ticking clock until some reporter finds something to make a story on. Scandal sells...
 

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If Golson starts the season throwing like a girl, I'm going to be pissed.
 

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I really don't think anyone considered him an expert QB guru because of his playing resume.

I think the work he has done actually training QB's says everything that you need to know.

Sad that anybody in the public eye is just a ticking clock until some reporter finds something to make a story on. Scandal sells...

Same could be said about George O'Leary, no?
 

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A little different in that Oleary was applying for a job and specifically submitted a faulty resume to ND and Whitfield is not.

Right. But you use a resume to build a reputation. If lying about the resume got him a few gigs, it's pretty shady.

That said, I generally agree with the statements about Golson above. Here's hoping it was a good fit.
 

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A little different in that Oleary was applying for a job and specifically submitted a faulty resume to ND and Whitfield is not.

Yeah, it's one thing to hire a guy who lied on his resume as a representative of your university and another to hire a guy who embellished his resume (not sure we can say Whitfield lied yet) to teach you a few things about quarterbacking for a few weeks.

Basically I don't personally care about this story much (not saying it isn't interesting to know that the story is out there ... thanks for the thread, PAND). The dude was never a high-level football player. He's not even claiming to be. Neither was Bill Belichick. Who cares.
 

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Same could be said about George O'Leary, no?

O'Leary was applying for a position that probably required a specific degree (specific as in a Graduate degree), and lied about having that qualification.

Whitfield is not applying for any position; people come to him. If his resume doesn't meet their requirements, they will not come to him in the first place. He may have exaggerated his qualifications, but there are players and coaches who remember him being a part of AFL, so he did not fabricate the entire thing.
 

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O'Leary was applying for a position that probably required a specific degree (specific as in a Graduate degree), and lied about having that qualification.

Whitfield is not applying for any position; people come to him. If his resume doesn't meet their requirements, they will not come to him in the first place. He may have exaggerated his qualifications, but there are players and coaches who remember him being a part of AFL, so he did not fabricate the entire thing.

Um...that's my point.
 

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I'm not trying to stir up shit, but I'm curious if some of you would be so apathetic towards this if there wasn't the Golson connection. Let's say this was a QB coach with specific ties to USC, UM, or some SEC school. Would we be saying, "Whatevs!"? Personally, I don't give a shit because I think resumes are largely fluff and often exaggerated, but I'm just wondering if you all feel the same or it it's my initial thought in this post...
 

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I'm not trying to stir up shit, but I'm curious if some of you would be so apathetic towards this if there wasn't the Golson connection. Let's say this was a QB coach with specific ties to USC, UM, or some SEC school. Would we be saying, "Whatevs!"? Personally, I don't give a shit because I think resumes are largely fluff and often exaggerated, but I'm just wondering if you all feel the same or it it's my initial thought in this post...

I'm wondering why you're up so early and listing so much :)
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Saw the Shreveport story on George Whitfield. I spoke to the old HC of AFL Chicago Rush & a WR from Louisville Fire: <a href="http://t.co/xPRm2Phh6L">http://t.co/xPRm2Phh6L</a></p>— Bruce Feldman (@BruceFeldmanCFB) <a href="https://twitter.com/BruceFeldmanCFB/statuses/474267169711091712">June 4, 2014</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Re: Whitfield arena story> old Louisville Fire QB RT <a href="https://twitter.com/matthewsauk">@matthewsauk</a> I was the starter for that team when George was there. He played for sure.</p>— Bruce Feldman (@BruceFeldmanCFB) <a href="https://twitter.com/BruceFeldmanCFB/statuses/474281055650721792">June 4, 2014</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 

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Who cares. It seems like he hyped himself up on a resume and stretched what really happened, but he played.

His track record with QBs in un-deniable. He has done great work with QBs and will continue to do great work with QBs. I personally think Clarkson is better, but not by a huge margin. Its kinda funny these days if you are successful, someone always tries to bring you down.
 

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This is a guy with his own private business. He's not working for anyone else. The proof is in the pudding and you can't question his results.

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George Whitfield should immediately fire himself from his own company for lying to his employer
 

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Who cares. It seems like he hyped himself up on a resume and stretched what really happened, but he played.

His track record with QBs in un-deniable. He has done great work with QBs and will continue to do great work with QBs. I personally think Clarkson is better, but not by a huge margin. Its kinda funny these days if you are successful, someone always tries to bring you down.

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PDATE (11:30 a.m. ET, June 5): On Wednesday night, FOX Sports spoke with former Chicago Rush QB Ray Philyaw, who was quoted in the Shreveport Times story saying, “He wasn’t there when I was there.” Philyaw said after initially speaking with the reporter, he went online and saw a picture of Whitfield and then remembered him.
"It was over 10 years ago," Philyaw told FOX Sports. "I finally saw his face and put two and two together.
"I called (the reporter) back and I told him that I remembered who George was and that I remembered him being in Chicago with me. I remembered him playing with me. That was 10 minutes later than the first call. He had time to correct it."

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PDATE (11:30 a.m. ET, June 5): On Wednesday night, FOX Sports spoke with former Chicago Rush QB Ray Philyaw, who was quoted in the Shreveport Times story saying, “He wasn’t there when I was there.” Philyaw said after initially speaking with the reporter, he went online and saw a picture of Whitfield and then remembered him.
"It was over 10 years ago," Philyaw told FOX Sports. "I finally saw his face and put two and two together.
"I called (the reporter) back and I told him that I remembered who George was and that I remembered him being in Chicago with me. I remembered him playing with me. That was 10 minutes later than the first call. He had time to correct it."

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That sucks. What an ass.
 
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