Smith had Spartans protect field from flag planting...

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actually, 23 (Javon Ringer) is a pretty darn good running back. I think he could prolly fight pretty well. as they say, it's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog. and actually, he's really not that small. he's 5'9", 198 according to MSU's roster. so he's short, but he's got some meat on him.

I'd make fun of the guys with the clean uniforms before I make fun of Ringer. he averaged almost 5 yards a carry on us if I'm remembering correctly.

Oh, and we need MSU to beat UM, then UM to beat OSU, that would be perfect.
 

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This?

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OKay, got my interest on this one... did JL do that the whole time to Charlie, basically not acknowledging him, or was this one moment caught on camera and everyone's jumping on JL??
 

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actually, 23 (Javon Ringer) is a pretty darn good running back. I think he could prolly fight pretty well. as they say, it's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog. and actually, he's really not that small. he's 5'9", 198 according to MSU's roster. so he's short, but he's got some meat on him.

I'd make fun of the guys with the clean uniforms before I make fun of Ringer. he averaged almost 5 yards a carry on us if I'm remembering correctly.

Oh, and we need MSU to beat UM, then UM to beat OSU, that would be perfect.

In the press conference when asked about the players guarding the "S" Weis noted he didn't realize that was what they were doing. Weis was walking over to the team and the ND fans and passed these 3 guys, he stopped briefly to compliment Ringer on his game performance.

Here they were being the bad asses guarding against payback vandalism and the classy coach in a display of sportsmanship compliments a thug wannabe.

You've got to love the irony.
 
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OKay, got my interest on this one... did JL do that the whole time to Charlie, basically not acknowledging him, or was this one moment caught on camera and everyone's jumping on JL??


Camp, I assure you that picture is accurate, I made sure to watch the handshake at the end, and all you saw was jls hand out for a second and his body turned while Weis faced him eye to eye.

Maybe its a big Ten thing, because Carr usually does the same thing when he loses. I understand they're upset about losing, but Jesus show some class.
 

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CampB I assure you that picture is accurate, I made sure to watch the handshake at the end, and all you saw was jls hand out for a second and his body turned while Weis faced him eye to eye.

Maybe its a big Ten thing, because Carr usually does the same thing when he loses. I understand they're upset about losing, but Jesus show some class.

Yeah, no doubt!! We ARE human beings and any time someone doesn't look me in the eye when shaking my hand, I lose ALL respect for them. There's nothing more chickensh** about coaching than disrespecting the opposing team's coach. In a fit of sarcasm, I probably would've said something like, "Wow, John...you have pretty eyes" to see if that sparked him looking in my direction. After drawing a look, I'd be like, "That's better...now go in to your ragged a** locker with your sh** a** team and I'll see you next year".
 

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Yeah, no doubt!! We ARE human beings and any time someone doesn't look me in the eye when shaking my hand, I lose ALL respect for them. There's nothing more chickensh** about coaching than disrespecting the opposing team's coach. In a fit of sarcasm, I probably would've said something like, "Wow, John...you have pretty eyes" to see if that sparked him looking in my direction. After drawing a look, I'd be like, "That's better...now go in to your ragged a** locker with your sh** a** team and I'll see you next year".

Something tells me Charlie won't have to shake hands w/ John L. Smith after anymore games following this season...
 

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i am just glad to see that the tutoring helped them find the 50 yard line this time. the only thing that would have been better would be if they actually craped on it instead of standing on it, oh wait they did that during the game
 

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Maybee John L has Wally vision or somthing that prevents him from being a man and looking at his opponent. he had all that big talk about the flag planting but can't take his lumps I heard Wal Mart is going to be selling some class if wants to get some
 

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Thankfully for Jon El Smith, Terrell Owens only let him have jerkoff of the week for half of the week.

Watched the game on ESPN Instant Classic last night. Closure.

See ya next year asswipe. If you still have a job.
 

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Thankfully for Jon El Smith, Terrell Owens only let him have jerkoff of the week for half of the week.

Watched the game on ESPN Instant Classic last night. Closure.

See ya next year asswipe. If you still have a job.

Jon El Smith, lmao.

If he doesn't beat Michigan or tO$U this year, I'd guess he's toast. But Spartier things have happened.
 
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Dear Mr. Smith

Dear Mr. Smith

Mr. John L. Smith,

***The following is taken from a fellow sports fan. I simply agree with this as I saw it unfold, and am passing it on for you to consider...if you may?***

Look, John-el, here's what happened. Ndukwe hit Stanton and sent him flying. The refs threw the flag for a late hit. Fair enough. And then a sequence of events transpired. (If you have the game on tape, you can clearly see each of these events as they unfold.)

1. After the tackle, Trannon and a few other Spartans run into the ND sideline. Trannon gets in Ndukwe's face in the middle of the bench area. Ndukwe backs off.

2. Trannon remains to stand over Stanton. For what reason? Who the hell knows.

3. Ron Powlus (or someone who looks just like him; the article above indicates it may have been Chad Klunder) is herding MSU players out of the bench area. A smart move, as the longer they are there the more opportunity there is for shenanigans.

4. Powlus grabs Trannon by the jersey and corrals him back towards the field. He is not instigating anything. He is not picking a fight with Trannon. He is clearing the area. He is trying to maintain order in a chippy environment.

5. Trannon reacts by pushing past several people and going after Powlus, shoving him in the back. Trannon is picking a fight (for the second time), this time with a coach without pads who was trying to clear the area. While he did not "throw a punch", as JLS states, he definitely shoves Powlus in the back, who has turned away to clear more players from the area. Trannon is clearly an out-of-control menace at this point and must be controlled.

6. Ryan Harris gets in his face. Polian's (or someone who looks like him) reaction is to grab Trannon's facemask and pull him down. Maybe not the wisest thing to do, but it is in self-defense as much as anything, as Trannon seems willing to fight anyone/everyone at this point.

7. A few players including Chris Frome get in between them and shove Trannon out to the field. Trannon's helmet is pulled off. Trannon grabs Frome's facemask, right in the face of the ref, who throws a flag. This is the penalized incident, not anything to do with Charlie complaining.

8. A moment later you can see CW talking to the ref, and you can clearly read the words "I got hit in the face". This is well after the flag was thrown.

So the flag wasn't a result of Charlie talking to the refs. Bottom line, Trannon is the bad actor here, not the Irish coaches, and ND should do nothing punitive against Powlus, Polian, or any other Irish player or coach as a result. What really galls me is the lack of respect Trannon had towards the opposing coach Powlus; Powlus had removed a couple of Spartan players from the sideline without confrontation, but when Trannon is ushered away, he retaliates and tries to start a fight.

It is unfortunate that Smith chose to play the victim, put all the blame on Notre Dame, and gloss over the fact that without Trannon charging into the bench area, and then shoving Ron Powlus, there would be no controversy. It is especially disturbing that this would the main focus of his press conference, in light of a host of issues that, unlike this event, actually contributed to the Spartan collapse.

We (SPARTAN FANS) maintain that John L. Smith is bad for Michigan State football, and we hope they replace him at their earliest opportunity. The Spartans deserve better, and judging from the discussions we had in East Lansing after the game, many Spartan fans agree.

***AGAIN, The following is taken from a SPARTAN sports fan. I simply agree with this as (A NOTRE DAME FAN) I saw it unfold, and am passing it on for you to consider...if you may?***
 

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We (SPARTAN FANS) maintain that John L. Smith is bad for Michigan State football, and we hope they replace him at their earliest opportunity. The Spartans deserve better, and judging from the discussions we had in East Lansing after the game, many Spartan fans agree.

***AGAIN, The following is taken from a SPARTAN sports fan. I simply agree with this as (A NOTRE DAME FAN) I saw it unfold, and am passing it on for you to consider...if you may?***

that entire excerpt is lifted from the pages of bluegraysky:

http://bluegraysky.blogspot.com/2006_09_01_bluegraysky_archive.html#115941073098896516

the fellas at bluegraysky are most certainly Irish fans, not spartans. am i missing something? why are you ripping of bluegraysky's material and presenting it as if it were written by sparty?
 

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priceless picture for sure. it shows which team has class and which one doesn't. CW would have lost it if any of our guys tried to plant a flag there. the scoreboard is the best way to gloat!
 

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priceless picture for sure. it shows which team has class and which one doesn't. CW would have lost it if any of our guys tried to plant a flag there. the scoreboard is the best way to gloat!

Yeah, it sure is a sweet picture with the scoreboard and the final score being very noticable in the background! PRICELESS!!!
 
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that entire excerpt is lifted from the pages of bluegraysky:

http://bluegraysky.blogspot.com/2006_09_01_bluegraysky_archive.html#115941073098896516

the fellas at bluegraysky are most certainly Irish fans, not spartans. am i missing something? why are you ripping of bluegraysky's material and presenting it as if it were written by sparty?
Honest mistake...was early am on this side of the country. i had hoped tomake clear that I was copying info to begin with...truley did not mean to offend anyone...especially fellow Irish fans!
 
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