What's up with the Shark?

[NDgettysburg]

Anyone have a feeling that Jeff isn't real happy about something? Was just looking at my pics from the weekend and I noticed he's not hanging out with the big names on the team as you might expect. Seems sort of odd for a guy who's so important to the offense and the team. At the pep rally I can't spot him anywhere near the center of the lines by the podium (or even as wide as my shot went out). Haven't found himi in the pics of when the team came over to the students either. Anyone else notice this or am I just nuts (which is entirely possible)?

Is he just really laid back? That sort of personality?

 

[sblxdoc]

He's probably pissed off that he's not getting the ball more. I love Rhema Mcknight, but we need to start going back to the shark as our number one guy.

 

[irishnd31]

He's probably pissed off that he's not getting the ball more. I love Rhema Mcknight, but we need to start going back to the shark as our number one guy.

Don't you trhink that the D might pick up on it if we throw the ball to him EVERY time? He gets plenty of touches.

 

[scooper]

Whoever is open will get the ball. There are no politics involved. The Shark is fine. He may not match last year's numbers as teams are gameplanning against him, but he'll have a good season.

Not to mention, we just faced two of the probable top 4 defenses we'll face this year. The numbers will get padded soon enough.

 

[nayers]

He's probably pissed off that he's not getting the ball more. I love Rhema Mcknight, but we need to start going back to the shark as our number one guy.

i dont think thats him..he is a team guy.

 

[KMac151993]

I think his head got a little big after last fall and all the publicity this summer. Obviously repeating the year he had last year is going to be difficult or impossible. I personally think that Rhema is the better more talented WR anyway but Jeff feels like he should be getting the ball 7-10 a game with at least 1 TD...that simply isn't going to happen. Regardless sooner or later he will realize that and come to grips with it.

 

[Irish Envy]

Whoever is open will get the ball. There are no politics involved. The Shark is fine. He may not match last year's numbers as teams are gameplanning against him, but he'll have a good season.

Not to mention, we just faced two of the probable top 4 defenses we'll face this year. The numbers will get padded soon enough.

Exactly. People also forget that he missed a lot of time with the team because he was off playing minor league baseball. I bet if someone asked him, he'd be the first to admit that he isn't where he was last year because of it.

 

[NDAlumSon]

Anyone have a feeling that Jeff isn't real happy about something?

WIth the look on his face after Brady threw WAY behind him on that pass in the endzone toward the end of the very first drive of the game, I'd say he's disgusted that Quinn is supposedly Heisman material and yet cannot throw a ball in FRONT of a receiver.
Even his touchdown reception was a bad ball that Jeff made a great adjustment to haul in.

Brady !: settle the f**k down in the pocket, will ya ! What are you nervous?
Your hyper activity and happy feet remind me of a lot of non-quality quarterbacks I see.
Change your grip, soften your grip, hell...throw left-handed if you have to, but can you please throw a spiral now and again. All those dropped balls are not JUST the receiver's fault.
And one more thing, your arms may impress you in the mirror but they don't do shit for your passing ability. Hopefully you watched little Eli Manning yesterday and noticed that most of his balls are spirals and thrown with touch and accuracy.
That's it. Thank You.

 

[sblxdoc]

WIth the look on his face after Brady threw WAY behind him on that pass in the endzone toward the end of the very first drive of the game, I'd say he's disgusted that Quinn is supposedly Heisman material and yet cannot throw a ball in FRONT of a receiver.
Even his touchdown reception was a bad ball that Jeff made a great adjustment to haul in.

Brady !: settle the f**k down in the pocket, will ya ! What are you nervous?
Your hyper activity and happy feet remind me of a lot of non-quality quarterbacks I see.
Change your grip, soften your grip, hell...throw left-handed if you have to, but can you please throw a spiral now and again. All those dropped balls are not JUST the receiver's fault.
And one more thing, your arms may impress you in the mirror but they don't do shit for your passing ability. Hopefully you watched little Eli Manning yesterday and noticed that most of his balls are spirals and thrown with touch and accuracy.
That's it. Thank You.

He seems to be trying too damn hard. With all the hype and expectations to put up big numbers, he is definitely way too tense. He needs to let the game come to him as they say.

 

[Irish Envy]

He seems to be trying too damn hard. With all the hype and expectations to put up big numbers, he is definitely way too tense. He needs to let the game come to him as they say.

That's all fine and well, but the oponent's defensive lines are also coming to him. Until our offensive line gives him solid time in the pocket, he is going to continue to do this IMO.

 

[BigIrish]

Even his touchdown reception was a bad ball that Jeff made a great adjustment to haul in.

Brady !: settle the f**k down in the pocket, will ya ! What are you nervous?
Your hyper activity and happy feet remind me of a lot of non-quality quarterbacks I see.
Change your grip, soften your grip, hell...throw left-handed if you have to, but can you please throw a spiral now and again. All those dropped balls are not JUST the receiver's fault.

well, that's certainly one view of shark's touchdown catch. personally, i saw brady quinn placing the ball exactly where the defense couldn't get to it but his ALL AMERICAN receiver could get to it by making an athletic catch.

you should probably consider taking your own advice here....quinn has thrown for significantly more yards in his first two games this season as opposed to last season, and has gotten fewer possessions to do it in with the change in the clock rules. he's passing right at his season completion percentage last year (65%), despite a 60% outing his first game. (he was at 67% against psu).

quinn is human. he will throw some bad passes. his receivers will also drop some. but all in all, he's doing a great job. try not to take that for granted.

 

[NDAlumSon]

you should probably consider taking your own advice here....

What ? You mean the part about settling the f**k down?
I lost friends and loved ones 5 years ago today to towel-headed killers.
I won't be settling down. Not today !
Regardless of my mood, the Brady criticism stands and is accurate.

 

[NDgettysburg]

i dont think thats him..he is a team guy.

I had him pegged as a team dude too...which is why it seemed odd that he wasn't really hanging with Quinn, Rhema, etc....I guess it sucks to be the decoy most of the time though.

Maybe he's just laid back more this year....Darius was way in the back during the alma mater too and he didn't speak at the pep rally but did sit sorta near the center wearing 1970's shades.

 

[Bubba]

quinn is human. he will throw some bad passes. his receivers will also drop some. but all in all, he's doing a great job. try not to take that for granted.

AND he will throw some great ones...................
Those 2 spectacular throws to Carlson. There's probably not another college QB that makes those throws. Can't blame the defense, they were in position and just flat out got beat. Also, you can't say enough about Carlson on those catches. Excellent concentration.

IMO, Shark will be fine also. He'll get his and so will most everyone else. I believe CW knows how to reward his players as long as it doesn't hurt the team. T2 scoring the TD after his fake punt conversion was no accident. It was the bone CW threw his way for an outstanding effort on all sides of the ball.

 

[Óglaigh_na_hÉireann]

I don't think there's anything going on here. If anything, having a legitimate #2 receiver will help Samardzija in the long run, and I'm sure he knows that.

I bet a lot of the guys were frustrated about the offense not clicking until the second quarter of the PSU game.

 

[BGIF]

...
I lost friends and loved ones 5 years ago today to towel-headed killers.
I won't be settling down. Not today ! ...[\quote]

Then why not remember them in the appropriate thread, the one jiggs started:

http://www.irishenvy.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11799

 

[Steve]

when i watched some of the pep rally, i'm pretty sure i saw him with a bag of sunflower seeds..idk though lol

 

[BigIrish]

I lost friends and loved ones 5 years ago today to towel-headed killers. I won't be settling down. Not today !

then i'm sincerely sorry for your loss, but your emotion is misguided. ND football has nothing to do with "towel-headed killers."

let's see...last year after game two, quinn had 367 total passing yards. this year he's got 533 in the same time period. he's got the same number of passing touchdowns (3). and like i said, he's right on his season average last year at 65%.

considering our sometimes porous offensive line this year, i'd say that's pretty good. but where exactly, do you feel he should be playing this early in the season? 700 yards passing? 6 TDs? 70% efficiency?

nd fans are fickle indeed.

 

[NDgettysburg]

AND he will throw some great ones...................
Those 2 spectacular throws to Carlson.

no doubt there.....they were money.

 

[rontdtarchala]

some of you are starting to come around to what I have been saying...
We have done pretty dang good so far...but and thats one reeeeeellly big butt...we have a problem with our o-line doing a consistent job in both run and pass protection. Some of BQ's passes have been atrocious even with good protection also...we have a long way to go to get to where we need to be and we better get there fairly quickly

 

[scooper]

OK, come off the freaking ledge people. The Irish are 2-0 and just obliterate Penn $%^*ing State. Quit looking for crap to complain about.

Newsflash-while it's great for the team to strive for it, there is no such thing as perfection on the football field. Brady will throw some bad ones. Every quarterback in the history of football has had "off" games. In two games against good defenses, Quinn has completed 65% for 533 yards, 3 TD's and NO INT's. And those are considered to be off days.

The Shark has 12/130/1. Against good defenses that were gameplanning against him. Even considering the defenses stay that strong (which you know they won't) at this pace he'd end up with 72 catches for 780 yards and 6 TD's. That's comparable to Supermen Calvin Johnson's or Tedd Ginn's stats last season.

Why do you people need to find stuff to complain about that isn't there? Other than a "face" you saw on camera, is there any reason to believe Samardzija is not happy? That he's not a team player?

Excuse me for stealing a line from NDN but, the "Hold me, I'm Irish" mentality is disgusting.

Quinn and the Shark are fine. Move on. This shouldn't even be a debate.

Michigan sucks, by the way.

 

[BigIrish]

Michigan sucks, by the way.

laughed out loud at that.

 

[NDgettysburg]

Why do you people need to find stuff to complain about that isn't there?

It wasn't a complaint of any type....simply a question.

Other than a "face" you saw on camera, is there any reason to believe Samardzija is not happy? That he's not a team player?

Again....it was just a fucking question.

As far as annihilating PSU, I just watched the game again today and we were very fortunate. While it's true that players have to make plays in order to win, wide open PDU receivers dropped some VERY key passes when there wasn't an ND defender within an arms length reach of them. The defense played a pretty good game but only a fool wouldn't realize that the game would have been a nail biter had a couple of PSU receivers been able to hang on to the ball. They didn't...luckily. What's the excuse when you come up against a receiver who does....like say, Ginn?

 

[scooper]

When it's a close game, a few dropped passes could make a difference. It was 41-17. And 14 of those came in fourth quarter garbage time. We could have given them three touchdowns and won that game.

 

[BigIrish]

While it's true that players have to make plays in order to win, wide open PDU receivers dropped some VERY key passes when there wasn't an ND defender within an arms length reach of them. The defense played a pretty good game but only a fool wouldn't realize that the game would have been a nail biter had a couple of PSU receivers been able to hang on to the ball. They didn't...luckily. What's the excuse when you come up against a receiver who does....like say, Ginn?

yeah, yeah, yeah, and if the irish had caught all their passes, it would have been a bigger blowout. so what you're saying is that if PSU had played absolutely perfectly without dropping a single pass, while we played like we did on saturday, with dropped passes and all, it would have been a closer game?

huh?

would the ND team that showed up to play OSU in the fiesta bowl last year have played SoCal down to the wire the way they did back in October? Hell no. But the ND team that showed up for SoCal might just have put it to OSU.

think we could have beat MSU last year if we'd have had a do-over?

listen....dropped balls, fumbles, sacks, acrobatic catches, poor playcalling, luck - it's all part of the game. PSU didn't put it together. The Irish did. give it up on these "if PSU had done this, that and these things right, they might have won the game" arguments. They didn't do it when it counted.

 

[marv81s]

Give me a break, he is fine. Defenses are probably concentrating on him, he could be double covered, so Brady is taking what the defense gives him, like a QB should do. There is no conflict, just playing as a team and he'll get his catches and his yards and his TDs in time.

 

[NDgettysburg]

yeah, yeah, yeah, and if the irish had caught all their passes, it would have been a bigger blowout. so what you're saying is that if PSU had played absolutely perfectly without dropping a single pass, while we played like we did on saturday, with dropped passes and all, it would have been a closer game?

I'm saying don't tell me how great the friggin' defense played when there were guys WIDE open who dropped the ball. The dbacks did NOTHING to prevent those plays. NOTHING. Don't tell me how comfortable that feels. If you feel comfortable with it, you're paying too much attention to the score and not enough to the opportunities the defense allowed. If this was the NC game, I couldn't give a crap less because that's the only win that really matters in the end, but it wasn't. Look through those blue & gold tinted glasses all you like but take them off and you'll see that there are still coverage problems in the defensive backfield. Sooner or later we'll meet a team that won't drop the easy ones.

listen....dropped balls, fumbles, sacks, acrobatic catches, poor playcalling, luck - it's all part of the game. PSU didn't put it together. The Irish did. give it up on these "if PSU had done this, that and these things right, they might have won the game" arguments. They didn't do it when it counted.

And....this is no longer about Penn State...this is about the future and the teams on the schedule that can make ND pay for piss-poor pass coverage. This is a concern for the future, not what happened on Saturday. I was there and saw the receivers wide open, cringing, but happy as hell when the passes were dropped. It shouldn't be lost on anyone how fortunate that was.

 

[BigIrish]

Look through those blue & gold tinted glasses all you like but take them off and you'll see that there are still coverage problems in the defensive backfield. Sooner or later we'll meet a team that won't drop the easy ones.

[sigh] blue and gold tinted glasses. well played. i hadn't realized how biased i'd been ENJOYING A FREAKING WIN FOR TWO MINUTES ON A MONDAY AFTERNOON.

seriously - can't posters like you wait until tuesday mornings to suck all the fun out of being a college football fan who's team just got a big win on saturday? i know there are unresolved problems on both sides of the ball, but i'm basking in a win before i begin the nail biting process of enduring another big opponent.

try it on for size, man...it's so much more fun to enjoy the win than to stew about our inevitable defeat.

 

[Irish Envy]

C'mon guys... let's not resort to calling people names or referring to them in a negative way. I think he raised a legit question and I have also noticed the Shark isn't the same player he was last season thus far.

Any more personal attacks and you're getting a red card! CIVIL. MATURE. INTELLIGENT.

 

[domerfor life]

I'm saying don't tell me how great the friggin' defense played when there were guys WIDE open who dropped the ball. The dbacks did NOTHING to prevent those plays. NOTHING. Don't tell me how comfortable that feels. If you feel comfortable with it, you're paying too much attention to the score and not enough to the opportunities the defense allowed. If this was the NC game, I couldn't give a crap less because that's the only win that really matters in the end, but it wasn't. Look through those blue & gold tinted glasses all you like but take them off and you'll see that there are still coverage problems in the defensive backfield. Sooner or later we'll meet a team that won't drop the easy ones.


And....this is no longer about Penn State...this is about the future and the teams on the schedule that can make ND pay for piss-poor pass coverage. This is a concern for the future, not what happened on Saturday. I was there and saw the receivers wide open, cringing, but happy as hell when the passes were dropped. It shouldn't be lost on anyone how fortunate that was.

I'm sure there were receivers open, but we won.....we won.......we won.....again....we won. We won 41-17. They scored two TD's in the final 5 minues of the game to make the score respectable. Of course our defense is not invincible. They played well enough "this game" to get a "W". Who cares about open receivers in the PSU game when we won 41-17. Now if the same receivers are open next game and Henne's hitting them right in the numbers for big gains and TDs and we lose, that's a different story. Until then save the sackcloth and ashes dude. And the DEFCON 4!!! tirades. Yes, Brady has overthrown receivers. Now the Shark is upset and is not talking to Brady? He very well could be unhappy, but he has to get over it. We can't force it to him. However, I have grimaced at some passes thrown his way (too high). That's life though. This is incredible. It's almost like you want something to go wrong. The constant "sky is falling" mentality is irritating. We are not perfect, nor will we ever be. We are 2-0 though. That's a fact. I will say this though...they need to work on Brady's touch on the fade routes. That was money last year and now the ball is sailing into the first row. Brady needs to take an easy on the weights. We've had about 4-5 sure TD's sail over receivers heads. Now a legit complaint or worry would be the ground game. We can't just man people up and go straight at them. That's going to be a problem. The OLine needs a bit more attitude. Anyway, I can't wait for the next game.