Injury update after Navy

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Linebacker Ben Councell
--Suffered a significant knee injury against Navy
--out for the season

Nose Guard Louis Nix
--Nix missed the last two games due to knee tendinitis. He also has a small tear of his meniscus.
--Nix is getting an MRI on Sunday to figure everything out
Kelly on Nix: "We want to see where he's at. This is more for Lou to make a decision where he's at, so he feels he's capable of playing the rest of the season. we are taking extra care to make sure he's good to go. We want to give him all the information."

Nose Guard Kona Schwenke
--high ankle sprain suffered as a result of a cut block against Navy.
--will not play vs Pitt

Defensive lineman Sheldon Day
-- Re-aggravated an ankle injury as a result of a cut block vs Navy.
--Kelly is optimistic Day will be able to play against Pittsburgh

Linebacker Ishaq Williams
--has an ACL injury
--Will not play vs Pitt. Expected to be back for BYU game.

Offensive lineman Chris Watt
--has a PCL tear in his knee (suffered against Air ForcE) and did not play vs Navy
--Injury does not require surgery and Kelly is hopeful Watt can play vs Pittsburgh
Kelly on Watt:
"It's a matter of managing it. it's loose. feeling of instability there. In pre game, he felt he couldn't do some of the things he wanted. As he adapts to it, i think this week he will feel more comfortable."

Safety Elijah Shumate
--did not play vs Navy.
--will play vs Pitt.

Safety Austin Collinsworth
--neck strain suffered against Navy
---will know more about his status on Monday

Those injury updates in addition to the players who are already out for the season like: Defensive lineman Tony Springmann, safety Nicky Baratti, linebacker Danny Spond, linebacker Jarrett Grace, wide receiver Daniel Smith, offensive lineman Christian Lombard.
 

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I wonder if I should start crying now or wait until game time to start???

GO IRISH!!!!!!
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Sucks hearing about all of these ligament injuries. How the hell did Nix finish the game against USC? Is Kelly overstating his issues?

Without Nix/Schwenke/Day/Ishaq our DL basically looks like...

Tuitt-Jones?-Rochelle?

With no depth behind them for spelling. Playing against service academies with their cut blocks really might have derailed our season.
 

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So it'll be.........

DE: Tuitt, Utupo
NT: Lou (?), J.Jones, Stockton
DE: Rochell, J.Jones

CAT: Shembo, Okwara
ILB: Fox, Schmidt
ILB: Carlo, Moore
DOG: Smith, Rabasa
 

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Linebacker Ben Councell
--Suffered a significant knee injury against Navy
--out for the season

Nose Guard Louis Nix
--Nix missed the last two games due to knee tendinitis. He also has a small tear of his meniscus.
--Nix is getting an MRI on Sunday to figure everything out
Kelly on Nix: "We want to see where he's at. This is more for Lou to make a decision where he's at, so he feels he's capable of playing the rest of the season. we are taking extra care to make sure he's good to go. We want to give him all the information."

Nose Guard Kona Schwenke
--high ankle sprain suffered as a result of a cut block against Navy.
--will not play vs Pitt

Defensive lineman Sheldon Day
-- Re-aggravated an ankle injury as a result of a cut block vs Navy.
--Kelly is optimistic Day will be able to play against Pittsburgh

Linebacker Ishaq Williams
--has an ACL injury
--Will not play vs Pitt. Expected to be back for BYU game.

Offensive lineman Chris Watt
--has a PCL tear in his knee (suffered against Air ForcE) and did not play vs Navy
--Injury does not require surgery and Kelly is hopeful Watt can play vs Pittsburgh
Kelly on Watt:
"It's a matter of managing it. it's loose. feeling of instability there. In pre game, he felt he couldn't do some of the things he wanted. As he adapts to it, i think this week he will feel more comfortable."

Safety Elijah Shumate
--did not play vs Navy.
--will play vs Pitt.

Safety Austin Collinsworth
--neck strain suffered against Navy
---will know more about his status on Monday

Those injury updates in addition to the players who are already out for the season like: Defensive lineman Tony Springmann, safety Nicky Baratti, linebacker Danny Spond, linebacker Jarrett Grace, wide receiver Daniel Smith, offensive lineman Christian Lombard.


One more:

08/17/13 LB Doug Randolph Shoulder out for season
 

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Sucks hearing about all of these ligament injuries. How the hell did Nix finish the game against USC? Is Kelly overstating his issues?

Without Nix/Schwenke/Day/Ishaq our DL basically looks like...

Tuitt-Jones?-Rochelle?

With no depth behind them for spelling. Playing against service academies with their cut blocks really might have derailed our season.

Going to be up to TJ, Niklas, Koyack, Folston, and McDaniel to score-score-score......

GO IRISH!!!!!
Diz
 

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So it'll be.........

DE: Tuitt, Utupo
NT: Lou (?), J.Jones, Stockton
DE: Rochell, J.Jones

CAT: Shembo, Okwara
ILB: Fox, Schmidt
ILB: Carlo, Moore
DOG: Smith, Rabasa

Ridiculous compared to...

DE: Tuitt, Schwenke
NT: Nix, Springmann
DE: Day, Rochelle

CAT: Shembo, Ishaq
ILB: Grace, Fox
ILB: Carlo, Moore
DOG: Spond, Smith

Our healthy roster is a top defense. Our triage roster is scary thin and undertalented.
 

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I wouldn't be surprised to see a lot more 4-3 so we can put Okwara on the field with Shembo. That way we only need to have two of the big guys playing atthe same time.
 

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Jarron Jones better step up. Our ILBs are horrible so if we don't get a good push up front it'll get ugly, especially against a mobile QB like Taysom Hill.
 

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Hounshell is back in pads I believe.

That is correct. However, Kelly said he only wants him to practice not play, similar to what he did with Collinsworth last season.

Kelly may need to look into reconsidering not playing Hounshell
 
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Honestly this is huge, with no depth at all it really comprises any chance at BCS.

This isn't my concern as of right now, but some issues we will have in the future--recruiting of DLine. We are going to lose Tuitt, Nix, and Kona for next season. And we have 1 NT for next season and zero/0 NT from the 2013 class.

Kelly has done a very bad job getting good NT's here. Very bad actually. And this will be concern in the future.

And still, right now sure hope Nix can play at a high level we really need it.
 

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plain and simple: Cut blocks need to be taken out of the game. I don't want to hear the "they're too small for traditional blocking". If that's the case, don't play major college football.
 

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Sucks hearing about all of these ligament injuries. How the hell did Nix finish the game against USC? Is Kelly overstating his issues?

Without Nix/Schwenke/Day/Ishaq our DL basically looks like...

Tuitt-Jones?-Rochelle?

With no depth behind them for spelling. Playing against service academies with their cut blocks really might have derailed our season.

I understand the commitment to playing Navy, but I've finally reached the point where I would prefer we drop them .
 

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Honestly this is huge, with no depth at all it really comprises any chance at BCS.

This isn't my concern as of right now, but some issues we will have in the future--recruiting of DLine. We are going to lose Tuitt, Nix, and Kona for next season. And we have 1 NT for next season and zero/0 NT from the 2013 class.

Kelly has done a very bad job getting good NT's here. Very bad actually. And this will be concern in the future.

And still, right now sure hope Nix can play at a high level we really need it.

Didn't Tuitt already say he's coming back next year?
 

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plain and simple: Cut blocks need to be taken out of the game. I don't want to hear the "they're too small for traditional blocking". If that's the case, don't play major college football.

Could not agree anymore than I do. If you don't agree and think they don't hurt, check out the above injuries. Players would much rather be hit in the head than at the knees.
 

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With all the new push for player "safety"...moving kickoffs up, and targeting rules, there should be no argument for leaving cut blocks in the game. If you really want to protect players they should be illegal. Theres no reason to allow a dangerous style of play because someones undersized or not as good. Its dangerous
 

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Could not agree anymore than I do. If you don't agree and think they don't hurt, check out the above injuries. Players would much rather be hit in the head than at the knees.

So because two of our guys got injured due to cut blocks, they should be outlawed now?
 

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This isn't my concern as of right now, but some issues we will have in the future--recruiting of DLine. We are going to lose Tuitt, Nix, and Kona for next season. And we have 1 NT for next season and zero/0 NT from the 2013 class.

Kelly has done a very bad job getting good NT's here. Very bad actually. And this will be concern in the future.

Very surprised at BK's performance recruiting DTs. One would have to think a few stud DTs would see our depth and jump right on the bus.

If we don't grab a few this year and next, we'll likely have to start looking at our OL, or fatten up our DEs.
 

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Jarron Jones better step up. Our ILBs are horrible so if we don't get a good push up front it'll get ugly, especially against a mobile QB like Taysom Hill.

ND SID tweeted this afternoon that Nix will practice this week, so he's likely to play this weekend. Then we have an open date after Pitt for guys to get healthy. We should have Ishaq back by BYU, and hopefully Kona as well.

This could be really bad next week though. If Nix and Day can't go, then we don't even go 2 deep across the DL. Okwara may have to play some DE. Is it crazy to give Niklas some reps on D this week? Desperate times call for desperate measures? I'm only half joking.
 
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So because two of our guys got injured due to cut blocks, they should be outlawed now?

Not just this week, but in years past as well. There's a reason they were taken out of the NFL.


ND SID tweeted this afternoon that Nix will practice this week, so he's likely to play this weekend. Then we have an open date after Pitt for guys to get healthy. We should have Ishaq back by BYU, and hopefully Kona as well.

This could be really bad next week though. If Nix and Day can't go, then we don't even go 2 deep across the DL. Okwara may have to play some DE. Is it crazy to give Niklas some reps on D this week? Desperate times call for desperate measures? I'm only half joking.

Day has a high ankle sprain. Those things take about six weeks to truly heal. If you aggravate it, then it takes longer.
 

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Very surprised at BK's performance recruiting DTs. One would have to think a few stud DTs would see our depth and jump right on the bus.

If we don't grab a few this year and next, we'll likely have to start looking at our OL, or fatten up our DEs.

Something to keep in mind and this is for future seasons. Rochell, Day, Jones and then recruiting Hayes, Dickerson, and +1. These are all guys that play DT in the 4-3. So we have inside guys we just don't have that big NG war daddy for the 3-4. So not all is lost.
 
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