'13 FL RB Greg Bryant (R.I.P.)

[IrishJayhawk]

Yeah. Derrick Henry, Altee Tenpenny and Tyren Jones are seeing a ton of carries at Bama. Derrick Green is getting a ton of meaningful carries at Michigan. Ty Isaac is getting a ton of carries at USC. Keith Ford blew us away at Oklahoma. Thomas Tyner doesn't basically only play in garbage time at Oregon. Barry Sanders didn't redshirt last year at Stanford.

You name elite talent outliers. The norm is not to have true freshman carry a big load, especially in the first 6 games of the schedule. If and when they do contribute consistently, it is later in the year. Hopefully we see Folston do that.

Exactly. Just couldn't have been stated more clearly.

 

[koonja]

Yeah. Derrick Henry, Altee Tenpenny and Tyren Jones are seeing a ton of carries at Bama. Derrick Green is getting a ton of meaningful carries at Michigan. Ty Isaac is getting a ton of carries at USC. Keith Ford blew us away at Oklahoma. Thomas Tyner doesn't basically only play in garbage time at Oregon. Barry Sanders didn't redshirt last year at Stanford.

You name elite talent outliers. The norm is not to have true freshman carry a big load, especially in the first 6 games of the schedule. If and when they do contribute consistently, it is later in the year. Hopefully we see Folston do that.

Umm, Derrick Green IS getting meaningful reps. He has over 20 carries so far to Greg's 2. And Michigan and especially Alabama have better RBs ahead of their younger freshman.

You realize that directly plays into risk/reward, correct?

 

[IrishSteelhead]

Don't you guys ever get tired of waiting to win?

GB clearly doesn't give us the best chance to win right now, and that is why he isn't seeing the field. I have no problem risking a transfer to squeeze another win or two out of a current season, than putting on kid gloves and packing it in for next year.

*Sucks he's not staying, but I'm done saying "2057 will be the year."

 

[koonja]

Where am I getting it?

From people that have actually seen the practices. Not just assumptions of what you "hope" the kid is doing.

So you've talked to people who watch practice and Greg Bryant has been unimpressive? Why didn't you say so earlier?

 

[Grahambo]

Umm, Derrick Green IS getting meaningful reps. He has over 20 carries so far to Greg's 2. And Michigan and especially Alabama have better RBs ahead of their younger freshman.

You realize that directly plays into risk/reward, correct?

20 carries in 5 games is considered meaningful?

 

[blueNDgold44]

Umm, Derrick Green IS getting meaningful reps. He has over 20 carries so far to Greg's 2. And Michigan and especially Alabama have better RBs ahead of their younger freshman.

You realize that directly plays into risk/reward, correct?

20 carries is nothing in 5 games, especially when you play that schedule. 11 against Central Michigan and 10 against Minnesota

 

[Irish Insanity]

Umm, Derrick Green IS getting meaningful reps. He has over 20 carries so far, to Greg's 2. And Michigan and especially Alabama have better RBs ahead of their younger freshman.

You realize that directly plays into risk/reward, correct?

Green has 1 mediocre person in front of him.

Bryant has 3 RBs who situationally are better than mediocre, another true freshman he's competing with, and plays on a team that can't get a comfy lead in any game it seams (not to mention the losses). There would obviously be less of an opportunity for carries in his situation than the two you described.

 

[Irish2015]

At least we have another open scholarship since top recruits are lining up to commit!

 

[ScooterIrish]

20 carries in 5 games is considered meaningful?

About 99% of his carries have been in two games against bad teams.

 

[pkt77242]

Umm, Derrick Green IS getting meaningful reps. He has over 20 carries so far, to Greg's 2. And Michigan and especially Alabama have better RBs ahead of their younger freshman.

You realize that directly plays into risk/reward, correct?

While yes that is more than 2 carries that is not a lot of meaningful reps over 6 games. He is average less than 4 carries a game. Nice try.

 

[Sherm Sticky]

Wait so it has officially been announced Greg Bryant is transferring?

 

[Kak7304]

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[Irish Insanity]

Wait so it has officially been announced Greg Bryant is transferring?

Yes, we announced it about 3 pages back I think.

 

[ScooterIrish]

Maybe if we ran less empty sets...

 

[Ironman8]

Umm, Derrick Green IS getting meaningful reps. He has over 20 carries so far, to Greg's 2. And Michigan and especially Alabama have better RBs ahead of their younger freshman.

You realize that directly plays into risk/reward, correct?

Haha Jesus man. MEANINGFUL. As in, in a meaningful game, close game. 7 of those carries came in the second half of the Minnesota game last weekend.

And are you kidding? According to you, Bryant has the most potential and was the highest rated RB on our team, so he should be starting / seeing meaningful carries. By that same logic, shouldn't all or most of those guys I listed above be starting? Because there is certainly no RB on Michigan that has more potential or was higher rated than Green.

Or are you stating that the coaches at other Universities play other RBs ahead of them because they are better, and BK just simply doesn't because he doesn't understand risk/reward and playing his talent?

 

[Grahambo]

About 99% of his carries have been in two games against bad teams.

I was gonna point that out too. Freshman don't often play meaningful snaps in the beginning of their careers. He has 21 carries in blow outs and 2 carries in the 3 close games.

 

[koonja]

20 carries in 5 games is considered meaningful?

20 carries is nothing in 5 games, especially when you play that schedule. 11 against Central Michigan and 10 against Minnesota

Green has 1 mediocre person in front of him.

Bryant has 3 RBs who situationally are better than mediocre, another true freshman he's competing with, and plays on a team that can't get a comfy lead in any game it seams (not to mention the losses). There would obviously be less of an opportunity for carries in his situation than the two you described.

1) Derrick Green is on pace for just over 60 carries. IDK how that is not significant as a freshman.

2) That's true, but with no one taking over the RB situation, what do you have to lose by allowing him 3 carries per game to keep him engaged and build for the future. Who knows, he might even be good and help us win later on in the year!

 

[koonja]

While yes that is more than 2 carries that is not a lot of meaningful reps over 6 games. He is average less than 4 carries a game. Nice try.

Since you're such a mathlete, why don't you look at what 23 carries through 5 games equates to throughout a season. Hint, I did it for you above.

 

[IrishJayhawk]

1) Derrick Green is on pace for just over 60 carries. IDK how that is not significant as a freshman.

2) That's true, but with no one taking over the RB situation, what do you have to lose by allowing him 3 carries per game to keep him engaged and build for the future. Who knows, he might even be good and help us win later on in the year!

Because (a) you're totally discounting the definition of the word "meaningful" and (b) the schedule we've played thus far. As has been pointed out, those carries have been mostly in garbage time. We haven't played any total cupcakes except for the opening game of the season. When would he have gotten carries?

 

[Grahambo]

1) Derrick Green is on pace for just over 60 carries. IDK how that is not significant as a freshman.

2) That's true, but with no one taking over the RB situation, what do you have to lose by allowing him 3 carries per game to keep him engaged and build for the future. Who knows, he might even be good and help us win later on in the year!

That's only if Michigan blows out everyone. 21 of those 23 carries came in blow out games. If they continue to play close, he won't see much. He has 2 carries in 3 close games.

 

[Sherm Sticky]

Wait so it has officially been announced Greg Bryant is transferring?

We as in IE? Or we as in ND?

 

[blueNDgold44]

That's only if Michigan blows out everyone. 21 of those 23 carries came in blow out games. If they continue to play close, he won't see much. He has 2 carries in 3 close games.

This

 

[irishff1014]

Because (a) you're totally discounting the definition of the word "meaningful" and (b) the schedule we've played thus far. As has been pointed out, those carries have been mostly in garbage time. We haven't played any total cupcakes except for the opening game of the season. When would he have gotten carries?

Actually this is a false statement Purdue is a Cupcake game for any team but us.

 

[koonja]

Haha Jesus man. MEANINGFUL. As in, in a meaningful game, close game. 7 of those carries came in the second half of the Minnesota game last weekend.

And are you kidding? According to you, Bryant has the most potential and was the highest rated RB on our team, so he should be starting / seeing meaningful carries. By that same logic, shouldn't all or most of those guys I listed above be starting? Because there is certainly no RB on Michigan that has more potential or was higher rated than Green.

Or are you stating that the coaches at other Universities play other RBs ahead of them because they are better, and BK just simply doesn't because he doesn't understand risk/reward and playing his talent?

Toussant or however you spell it is better than Derrick Green. Toussant is actually a solid RB. Not elite, but solid.

Yes, I think BK has been too slow to trust the freshman RBs.

Save your counter argument, I already know it "Well what if Tommy gets sacked because they missed a blocking assignment". Then adapt, evolve, take a page out of other successful coaches like Saban and Chip Kelly who have successfully implemented packages for their extremely talented freshman.

 

[wizards8507]

I still don't know what an RKG is...

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[IrishJayhawk]

Since you're such a mathlete, why don't you look at what 23 carries through 5 games equates to throughout a season. Hint, I did it for you above.

Here's some math...

21 of his 23 carries have been in games they have won by 50 and 29, respectively.

Edit: Beat me to it, Grahambo.

 

[Grahambo]

Toussant or however you spell it is better than Derrick Green. Toussant is actually a solid RB. Not elite, but solid.

Yes, I think BK has been too slow to trust the freshman RBs.

Save your counter argument, I already know it "Well what if Tommy gets sacked because they missed a blocking assignment". Then adapt, evolve, take a page out of other successful coaches like Saban and Chip Kelly who have successfully implemented packages for their extremely talented freshman.

Every coach in every league is slow to trust a young RB. There is more to playing RB then just carrying the ball.

 

[pkt77242]

Since you're such a mathlete, why don't you look at what 23 carries through 5 games equates to throughout a season. Hint, I did it for you above.

Since you can't comprehend that his carries of have been against bad teams, why don't you look at the rest of their schedule and figure out what other ****** teams he will get carries against. Not looking good for him unless he either starts getting carries against good teams or the person in front of him gets injured. Sorry.

 

[IrishJayhawk]

Actually this is a false statement Purdue is a Cupcake game for any team but us.

That's a fair argument to be made there.

Either way, the game was close. No time to break in a true freshman who may or may not know blocking assignments, which essentially makes us completely predictable.

 

[blueNDgold44]

Toussant or however you spell it is better than Derrick Green. Toussant is actually a solid RB. Not elite, but solid.

Yes, I think BK has been too slow to trust the freshman RBs.

Save your counter argument, I already know it "Well what if Tommy gets sacked because they missed a blocking assignment". Then adapt, evolve, take a page out of other successful coaches like Saban and Chip Kelly who have successfully implemented packages for their extremely talented freshman.

You can make the same argument for GA3, McDaniel, and Amir when comparing them to Greg Bryant...