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Asiana Airlines is one of two South Korean Airlines.
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South Korean 777 Crashlands at SFO
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RT @thekenyeung .@nbcbayarea is reporting on live TV that their man on the ground says there are 2 declared fatalities from SFO plane crash
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Wow! The triple 7 is one of the BIG BOYS.
Interesting F.Y.I.
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Haven't seen that reported anywhere. It's not on that NBC twitter feed.
The plane appeared to land short of the runway. Photos show debris on the dike at the edge of SFO property at the bay, just before the runway pavement begins. One landing gear assembly is shown just shy of the runway designation marker, "28L".
One ESPN announcer who is a private pilot conjectures the plane landed short probably hard, perhaps due to a microburst, collapsing a landing gear which resulted in a lopsided belly landing causing the plane to spin 180 degrees around the dragging wingtip.
Unconfirmed rumors of 2 dead, 60 injured, 291 passengers + 16 crew
One ESPN announcer who is a private pilot conjectures the plane landed short probably hard, perhaps due to a microburst, collapsing a landing gear which resulted in a lopsided belly landing causing the plane to spin 180 degrees around the dragging wingtip.
Unconfirmed rumors of 2 dead, 60 injured, 291 passengers + 16 crew
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An eyewitness fisherman claims he saw the plane make impact and the nose flew upwards.
The would be consistent with the plane's tail making impact prior with the dike prior to the landing gear touching down. There is a constant debris trail from the dike through the runway threshold and on through the touchdown zone. The three components of the tail assembly broke off in the threshold area.
The would be consistent with the plane's tail making impact prior with the dike prior to the landing gear touching down. There is a constant debris trail from the dike through the runway threshold and on through the touchdown zone. The three components of the tail assembly broke off in the threshold area.
2 die after Boeing 777 crash lands, burns at San Francisco airport - CNN.com
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2 dead, 181 treated by hospitals, 49 considered serious.
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2 dead, 181 treated by hospitals, 49 considered serious.
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Here's an interview with J. P.Tristani a retired commercial pilot with 43 years of aviation experience. He mentions microbursts as a possible cause but "leans" toward pilot error.
Interesting as pilots are usually very protective of their own and a quick charge of pilot error. I say that having a father-in-law who was a career commercial pilot. About half his career was spent flying around the globe on long transoceanic flights similar to this flight. I also have 8 or 9 private pilots in the extended family including one flight instructor and one flight surgeon. It was the extended topic at the family dinner Saturday night as it has been over the decades whenever there was a crash.
In the video Tristani describes the type of approaches the pilots could have used in landing at SFO. He notes the co-pilot could have made the landing but regardless of whether pilot or co-pilot made the landing the other serves in capacity of Safety Officer working as a team.
He thinks the problem started 23 miles out when the initial descent was started. Various commentators had noted in other reports that the plane was 50 to 100 feet too low on impact at the bay breakwater. Tristani believes they were more like 150 to 200 feet too low and landed 1500 feet short of their anticipated landing mark.
I heard him on another channel describing that there are three devices that should enable the NTSB too make a rapid determination of the cause although the results will likely not be public for about 6 months. The plane had a Rapid Motion Recorder, a Cockpit Voice Recorder, and the Flight Recorder (the black box which is actually orange). He also noted that despite the shattered tail and other components, and the burnt interior, this plane is in good shape, relatively speaking, for a crashed plane which will benefit the technical analysis.
Another pilot had commented earlier in the evening that the Orange Box can be connected to a 777 ( this aircraft's type) Flight Simulator and will will automatically move all the controls in the identical sequence and timing of the person(s) at the controls. Sitting in the flight simulator the NTSB will see what the flight crew saw and when they set which controls, and made or didn't make adjustments. If there microbursts a sudden drop in elevation will show up. If they needed additional power and the engines couldn't provide it because of the effects of cold from a 10 hour high altitude flight. This was cited from a previous incident with a 777 some years ago. Again the Orange Box will show if they needed more power, took the correct action, but encountered mechanical performance deficiencies. The Orange Box will also show if the descent was initiated too soon or at too steep a rate of decline.
http://news.yahoo.com/video/pilots-san-francisco-landing-approach-035918135.html
Interesting as pilots are usually very protective of their own and a quick charge of pilot error. I say that having a father-in-law who was a career commercial pilot. About half his career was spent flying around the globe on long transoceanic flights similar to this flight. I also have 8 or 9 private pilots in the extended family including one flight instructor and one flight surgeon. It was the extended topic at the family dinner Saturday night as it has been over the decades whenever there was a crash.
In the video Tristani describes the type of approaches the pilots could have used in landing at SFO. He notes the co-pilot could have made the landing but regardless of whether pilot or co-pilot made the landing the other serves in capacity of Safety Officer working as a team.
He thinks the problem started 23 miles out when the initial descent was started. Various commentators had noted in other reports that the plane was 50 to 100 feet too low on impact at the bay breakwater. Tristani believes they were more like 150 to 200 feet too low and landed 1500 feet short of their anticipated landing mark.
I heard him on another channel describing that there are three devices that should enable the NTSB too make a rapid determination of the cause although the results will likely not be public for about 6 months. The plane had a Rapid Motion Recorder, a Cockpit Voice Recorder, and the Flight Recorder (the black box which is actually orange). He also noted that despite the shattered tail and other components, and the burnt interior, this plane is in good shape, relatively speaking, for a crashed plane which will benefit the technical analysis.
Another pilot had commented earlier in the evening that the Orange Box can be connected to a 777 ( this aircraft's type) Flight Simulator and will will automatically move all the controls in the identical sequence and timing of the person(s) at the controls. Sitting in the flight simulator the NTSB will see what the flight crew saw and when they set which controls, and made or didn't make adjustments. If there microbursts a sudden drop in elevation will show up. If they needed additional power and the engines couldn't provide it because of the effects of cold from a 10 hour high altitude flight. This was cited from a previous incident with a 777 some years ago. Again the Orange Box will show if they needed more power, took the correct action, but encountered mechanical performance deficiencies. The Orange Box will also show if the descent was initiated too soon or at too steep a rate of decline.
http://news.yahoo.com/video/pilots-san-francisco-landing-approach-035918135.html
If anyone hasn't seen a photo of that burnt out, tailless, engineless plane that belly landed, you need to.
Then realize there are only 2 fatalities and 305 survivors.
It looks like only 2 of the 8 chutes deployed but the flight attendants got everyone, including 180 injured, off the plane.
The 2 fatalities were found on the runway apparently thrown from the open end of the fuselage where the tail section should have been.
Regardless of whether there was pilot error (not making an excuse for them if it was) the cockpit crew did a remarkable job on the ground post impact. Enough can't be said about the incredible job the flight attendants did saving over 99% of those on-board.
I never been in a crash but I have gone through The Drill. About 20 years ago shortly after initial descent started the captain came on the P.A. with a terse announcement that they had gotten an indication of a landing gear malfunction and to stay in our seats, fasten seatbelts, and follow the flight attendants instructions. While everything hard in the setbacks and underseats was being put in the overhead bins the captain came back on the P.A. Informing us that we were going to do a "flyby". He added that this wasn't a Maverick and Goose flyby but a chance for the airport tower crew to do a visual to see if the gear down ... or not. The tower couldn't tell so the pilot told us we were going to fly around for awhile to burn off the full for the next leg of the scheduled flight. "Strictly routine," we were advised.
About an hour later we started another approach. During that previous hour the flight attendants checked and rechecked for unsecured items that would become missiles in a crash. Then they had us remove all footwear (I assumed it was all, so those in high heels wouldn't feel singled out). I believe the high heels went in the overhead also, then we were instructed in detail about the exits near us fore and after, over and over again we were reminded about the emergency lighting. We had already counted the number of setbacks between our row and the exits fore and aft ... all of us counted for their own location. By the time we started our descent we all knew how to bend forward as low as possible and how to interlock our forearms to provide some protection were we hit the Tarmac and our seat's floor bolts sheared pummeling us into a compressing accordion. The flight crew didn't tell us about the impending bolt failure. I knew that as an engineer and those post crash family dinner chats. Finally the flight attendants deployed, like cheerleaders distributed around a stadium, started all the passengers in a chant, "GETDOWN! STAY DOWN!" There had been snickers when they first started instructing us. Nobody was snickering when the command, "PREPARE FOR IMPACT" was given. The attendants scurried to their seats and kept the chant going on the ground until we rolled to a stop. We had been cautioned the the landing gear might survive landing but fail on rollout as such we had to stay in "the position" until we stopped. We didn't taxi to the gate. We stayed where we stopped. They brought out portable stairways and we unloaded there into buses. Then, we cheered the professionals.
I used to do 200 - 300 flights a year. I was as jaded as you could get during the Pre-flight instructions. Since then, I listen, and I count setbacks fore and aft.
Keep in mind we had about an hour and half or so to lock up our missiles, get to know our exits fore and aft in the dark, assume the safety position and chant to remind us to stay down and to prepare.
The people on 214 were gathering their things around them and getting ready to pop their seatbelts to be first into the overhead bins when their plane hit the breakwater, they were focused on survival on an impact they had no warning for. The flight attendants had seconds not 90 minutes to empty that aircraft as it spun down and then off the runway on its belly. And they did it, saving 305.
Well done!
Then realize there are only 2 fatalities and 305 survivors.
It looks like only 2 of the 8 chutes deployed but the flight attendants got everyone, including 180 injured, off the plane.
The 2 fatalities were found on the runway apparently thrown from the open end of the fuselage where the tail section should have been.
Regardless of whether there was pilot error (not making an excuse for them if it was) the cockpit crew did a remarkable job on the ground post impact. Enough can't be said about the incredible job the flight attendants did saving over 99% of those on-board.
I never been in a crash but I have gone through The Drill. About 20 years ago shortly after initial descent started the captain came on the P.A. with a terse announcement that they had gotten an indication of a landing gear malfunction and to stay in our seats, fasten seatbelts, and follow the flight attendants instructions. While everything hard in the setbacks and underseats was being put in the overhead bins the captain came back on the P.A. Informing us that we were going to do a "flyby". He added that this wasn't a Maverick and Goose flyby but a chance for the airport tower crew to do a visual to see if the gear down ... or not. The tower couldn't tell so the pilot told us we were going to fly around for awhile to burn off the full for the next leg of the scheduled flight. "Strictly routine," we were advised.
About an hour later we started another approach. During that previous hour the flight attendants checked and rechecked for unsecured items that would become missiles in a crash. Then they had us remove all footwear (I assumed it was all, so those in high heels wouldn't feel singled out). I believe the high heels went in the overhead also, then we were instructed in detail about the exits near us fore and after, over and over again we were reminded about the emergency lighting. We had already counted the number of setbacks between our row and the exits fore and aft ... all of us counted for their own location. By the time we started our descent we all knew how to bend forward as low as possible and how to interlock our forearms to provide some protection were we hit the Tarmac and our seat's floor bolts sheared pummeling us into a compressing accordion. The flight crew didn't tell us about the impending bolt failure. I knew that as an engineer and those post crash family dinner chats. Finally the flight attendants deployed, like cheerleaders distributed around a stadium, started all the passengers in a chant, "GETDOWN! STAY DOWN!" There had been snickers when they first started instructing us. Nobody was snickering when the command, "PREPARE FOR IMPACT" was given. The attendants scurried to their seats and kept the chant going on the ground until we rolled to a stop. We had been cautioned the the landing gear might survive landing but fail on rollout as such we had to stay in "the position" until we stopped. We didn't taxi to the gate. We stayed where we stopped. They brought out portable stairways and we unloaded there into buses. Then, we cheered the professionals.
I used to do 200 - 300 flights a year. I was as jaded as you could get during the Pre-flight instructions. Since then, I listen, and I count setbacks fore and aft.
Keep in mind we had about an hour and half or so to lock up our missiles, get to know our exits fore and aft in the dark, assume the safety position and chant to remind us to stay down and to prepare.
The people on 214 were gathering their things around them and getting ready to pop their seatbelts to be first into the overhead bins when their plane hit the breakwater, they were focused on survival on an impact they had no warning for. The flight attendants had seconds not 90 minutes to empty that aircraft as it spun down and then off the runway on its belly. And they did it, saving 305.
Well done!
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Sounds like to me they better have their check book ready.
Sounds like to me they better have their check book ready.
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Oh My God... lmfao
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Wi Tu Lo is even better. How did she read that with a straight face and not know something was up?
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I have no idea. As soon as she said Sum Ti Wong I knew exactly where that story was headed. How did that get past producers?
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bwahahahahaha.... That is priceless. Nice backtracking.
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No doubt the same summer intern that used to work in the IRS Cincinnati office before he transferred to the State Department's Bengazi desk, before he worked at DOJ doing journalist background research, but after he developed Prism for the NSA.
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Well said BGIF!