Opinions/Discussions on Guns

[JadeBrecks]

I personally have a 45 min 36 gun fire safe by Stack-on. It has the electronic keypad on it which makes getting into it a lot easier for me. My biggest suggestion is to spend a little extra for a safe with electrical power inside. Also think of the future when you buy it. If you are buying more you don't want to buy another safe. Also it may say it is a "x" number gun safe but that is only if you have a rifle without a scope or any other attachments. This is what I did for my pistols and I love it.
HOMEMADE PISTOL STORAGE RACK BUILD - YouTube

Any other questions feel free to ask.

 

[chicago51]

What do people think of Biden's shotgun defense plan?

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[JadeBrecks]

What do people think of Biden's shotgun defense plan?

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I think it is completely asinine. For those of you who know me I don't ever speak that strongly.
First off the idea that you can shoot a shotgun and hit everything in that ballpark direction is false. An AR-15 especially with optics is far easier to shoot than a bead sight shotgun.
Second going outside while someone is trying to break in your house is a bad idea.
Third randomly shooting off a firearm is a bad idea (see hunting accidents). You have to know what round you are shooting, what it is capable of doing, who/what you are shooting at, and what is past them/it that the bullet may hit.
Fourth firing ALL your ammunition out of your defensive gun is a terrible idea. If you take his suggestions a 30 round magazine will be needed for sure.
Fifth it is far easier to use many other firearms than a double barrel shotgun for home defense. If you miss (or randomly fire two shoots outside) and need to reload a double barrel shotgun will be much more difficult to reload than most firearms.
Sixth (nothing against females or smaller people) a 12 gauge shotgun especially one that isn't semi-auto will have a great bit of recoil. If you are smaller a shot like that to the shoulder could injure yourself. A friend of mine his wife would break her shoulder if someone helped her hold up a 12 gauge to shoot.
If you want to know how to properly defend yourself please please please do not take his advise. You will be far safer if you don't.

 

[95NDAlumNM]

Thanks guys. Not sure about a platform bed safe. However, I will definitely get one with some room to grow.

 

[DomerInHappyValley]

Thanks guys. Not sure about a platform bed safe. However, I will definitely get one with some room to grow.

I repurposed an antique armoire I found.
Installed 2 barrel locks. 1 low 1 high keyed the same a little bit of woodworking and I had a fully funtional cabinet/safe that doesn't stick out like a sore thumb saying guns here


One of my uncles had a built in china cabinet in his house he repurposed that by removing the glass and installing lexan.
Depending on what your looking for maybe you could do something like that.

 

[pkt77242]

I would love to know what people think about this town considering mandatory gun ownership? Georgia town mulls mandatory gun ownership - CNN.com

 

[DSully1995]

I would love to know what people think about this town considering mandatory gun ownership? Georgia town mulls mandatory gun ownership - CNN.com

ridiculous individualism, might as well as just roam the wilderness fully armed, atleast then youll be safe from other people...

 

[chicago51]

Study links gun laws and lower gun mortality - CNN.com

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

Study links gun laws and lower gun mortality - CNN.com

So ironic that a guy from Chicago posts that.

 

[irishpat183]

So ironic that a guy from Chicago posts that.

LOL...seriously.


I mean, I'd understand if NY and Chicago actually had a leg to stand on in this issue. But they are the WORST examples of "Tough gun laws = Safety"

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

LOL...seriously.


I mean, I'd understand if NY and Chicago actually had a leg to stand on in this issue. But they are the WORST examples of "Tough gun laws = Safety"

It'd be like KFC coming out with a "study" stating that fried chicken is beneficial to the arteries and heart.

 

[irishpat183]

It'd be like KFC coming out with a "study" stating that fried chicken is beneficial to the arteries and heart.

And in that same study, they'd claim hamburgers and french fries are bad for you.

 

[Bluto]

New York is one of the safest big cities I've ever been in.

Anyhow, I think Americas obsession with and fetishization of guns is more related to our national psyche than anything else. We are conditioned pretty early on to be anti social as a nation. We form militias to guard against our "tyranical govenrment", build gated communities, are taught to fear "the other" and this sense paranoia is constantly being reinforced by the media and political rhetoric. Most gun owners are more likely to shoot themselves dead than kill a burglar. That right there is pretty telling and pretty sad considering all the claims that these weapons are needed for self defense.

The sociologist Barry Glasser wrote a book on the subject. I read it awhile back, I think it was called The Culture of Fear: Why Americans are Afraid of the Wrong Things. Pretty good read.

 

[irishpat183]

New York is one of the safest big cities I've ever been in.

Anyhow, I think most gun violence is more related to our national psyche. We are conditioned pretty early on to be anti social as a nation. We build gated communities, we are taught to fear "the other" and this sense paranoia is constantly being reinforced by the media and political rhetoric. Most gun owners are more likely to shoot themselves dead than kill a burglar. That right there is pretty telling and pretty sad considering all the claims that these weapons are needed for self defense.

The sociologist Barry Glasser wrote a book on the subject. I read it awhile back, I think it was called The Culture of Fear: Why Americans are Afraid of the Wrong Things. Pretty good read.

Yeah, we're afraid of the guy who keeps his firearms locked up in his home safe....but cities like Chicago and Detroit are stacking bodies on a daily basis.

 

[Bluto]

Yeah, we're afraid of the guy who keeps his firearms locked up in his home safe....but cities like Chicago and Detroit are stacking bodies on a daily basis.

I think it's the reverse actually. I think the people in the suburbs or rural areas with gun lockers seem to be stockpiling weapons because they believe that those people in Detroit or Chicago are "coming to get them and theres". Which on its face is pretty absurd.

Anyhow, the problems in Detroit and Chicago are very real and the gun deaths and gun violence are just symptoms of much larger issues that have existed for decades in my opinion.

 

[JadeBrecks]

I think it's the reverse actually. I think the people in the suburbs or rural areas with gun lockers seem to be stockpiling weapons because they believe that those people in Detroit or Chicago are "coming to get them and theres". Which on its face is pretty absurd.

Anyhow, the problems in Detroit and Chicago are very real and the gun deaths and gun violence are just symptoms of much larger issues that have existed for decades in my opinion.

I find it funny where people get their gun free utopias it is never the rules they are enforcing that is the problem. Just like it isn't the fact that nobody can defend themselves that somehow leads to the mass shootings happening in "gun free" zones.

 

[GoldenIsThyFame]

South Dakota Law Will Allow Guns in Classrooms
Gov. Dennis Daugaard of South Dakota on Friday signed into law a bill that would allow teachers to carry guns in the classroom.

While some other states have provisions in their gun laws that make it possible for teachers to be armed, South Dakota is believed to be the first state to pass a law that specifically allows teachers to carry firearms.

About two dozen states have proposed similar bills since the shootings in December at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn., but all of them have stalled.

Supporters say that the measure signed by Mr. Daugaard, a Republican, is important in a rural state like South Dakota, where some schools are many miles away from emergency responders.

Opponents, which have included the state school board association and teachers association, say this is a rushed measure that does not make schools safer.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/09/u...l?partner=socialflow&smid=tw-nytnational&_r=0

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

Gotta love states' rights.

 

[GoIrish41]

Serious question: Has anybody on here ever had to use their personal gun to defend themselves or their property?

 

[FLDomer]

Serious question: Has anybody on here ever had to use their personal gun to defend themselves or their property?

Yep, on the farm growing up we used our firearms on several occasion to protect our livestock. I also once showed that I was carrying, to a guy who had approached me several times at a gas station in Hollywood, FL and got a little aggressive asking for some "cash to spare" while I was filling the air in my tires before a trip at about 4am. Luckily I did not have to fully draw my pistol to get him to give me space and turn the other way and disappear behind the gas station. I do not know what would have developed if he did not back down to the sight of my legally carried pistol, but I'm glad it ended the way it did.

 

[JadeBrecks]

Serious question: Has anybody on here ever had to use their personal gun to defend themselves or their property?

I have too. I used it to protect my dog and myself last summer. My dog bark one night (she never barks unless something is wrong) so I grabbed my gun and went outside. Two dogs I had never seen before (one pit one german shepherd) had my dog pinned in her dog house. As soon as I went around the corner of the house to see what was up the pit charged me. I have also used it to keep raccoons and coyotes away when I see them. The second time was to protect myself and wife from people. Luckily I didn't have to draw it. I reached for it and when they saw me put my hand on it they turned around and left. If you need more information PM me I would prefer not to talk about it in here.

 

[GoIrish41]

Jade and FLDomer, thanks for the insight. As you guys know there has been a lot of rhetoric on both sides of this argument. Lots of folks throw out "what if" scenarios and I'm just trying to get a feel for what really happens, not some fiction. I appreciate you guys answering. Anyone else's experiences would be appreciated.

 

[irishpat183]

Serious question: Has anybody on here ever had to use their personal gun to defend themselves or their property?

Nope. And I'm glad I haven't.


Have you even needed to drive your car to it's maximum speed?

 

[GoIrish41]

Nope. And I'm glad I haven't.


Have you even needed to drive your car to it's maximum speed?

Just gathering information. You keep telling me I don't know sh*t so I'm working on it.

 

[irishpat183]

Just gathering information. You keep telling me I don't know sh*t so I'm working on it.

Oh I didn't say that. LOL


I can tell you, my own personal experience, that I am a gun owner. Took many hours of classes and training BEFORE i purchased a firearm. My wife joined me on many of those classes. She now has a hand gun.


I'd rather have access to a gun in the event something happens, with the proper training, than not have one and hope the cops get there in time.

My handgun and/or AR only leaves my house when we go to the ranges or out to the property to shoot pigs. Even though I'm licensed to carry.

 

[Irish Houstonian]

Jade and FLDomer, thanks for the insight. As you guys know there has been a lot of rhetoric on both sides of this argument. Lots of folks throw out "what if" scenarios and I'm just trying to get a feel for what really happens, not some fiction. I appreciate you guys answering. Anyone else's experiences would be appreciated.

In the Houston Chronicle there is probably an average of two incidents a day where a homeowner shoots a burglar. Usually in the 'hood, but they deserve safety in their homes just as much as anyone else.

 

[irishpat183]

In the Houston Chronicle there is probably an average of two incidents a day where a homeowner shoots a burglar. Usually in the 'hood, but they deserve safety in their homes just as much as anyone else.

But you'll never hear that on national news. I wonder why?

 

[irishpat183]

In the Houston Chronicle there is probably an average of two incidents a day where a homeowner shoots a burglar. Usually in the 'hood, but they deserve safety in their homes just as much as anyone else.

You hear about the guy that shot at the car robber last week?

Perfect example of why its nice to have a gun. Caught the dude breaking into his car and went outside and shot (in the air I believe) and scared the guy off.

The liberal will tell you that you should've just let him take your stuff. Sheesh

 

[Bluto]

I find it funny where people get their gun free utopias it is never the rules they are enforcing that is the problem. Just like it isn't the fact that nobody can defend themselves that somehow leads to the mass shootings happening in "gun free" zones.

I never said anything close to that. I'm actually taking guns out of the equation. Drugs sales and other criminal activity associated with poverty are why those areas are so violent. Not guns per se. The guns do make killing much easier though. I was also just wondering aloud about the reasons that drive people to basically hoard large numbers of guns.

 

[Bluto]

Jade and FLDomer, thanks for the insight. As you guys know there has been a lot of rhetoric on both sides of this argument. Lots of folks throw out "what if" scenarios and I'm just trying to get a feel for what really happens, not some fiction. I appreciate you guys answering. Anyone else's experiences would be appreciated.

Here are my experiences with guns albeit they were pointed and or flashed at me.

Twice by cops. Thank the lord I did not have a firearm or I would probably have been shot dead.

Three times by 20 something dudes looking for trouble.

One I told he'd either get the electric chair or die in prison unless he planned on shooting everyone present (we were on a public street and I was with a group of about 10 people).

Another demanded money from me so I opened my wallet and showed him I didn't have any cash and explained that I only used a debit card and was poor to boot. He looked really confused after that and just kind of walked away.

The last I told I looked at him because he was flashing large amounts of cash in public which probably isn't the best idea. After some thought he kind of agreed.