North Carolina Receives B1G offer, Virginia & Georgia Tech next in line

[condoms SUCk]

National titles aren't the focus here. They never have been. The goal has always been to win the B1G Championship. Ever since Gustave Ferbert won the first one in 1898, that's been to goal. And nobody has done it better than Michigan.

-Bo Schembechler

Bo was a great coach for Mich, with that said times have changed.
Sorry B10 championships are nice but NC's should be the main goal for ALL B10 teams. If it's not then the B10 conf is in bigger trouble than I thought.

 

[HereComeTheIrish]

Bo was a great coach for Mich, with that said times have changed.
Sorry B10 championships are nice but NC's should be the main goal for ALL B10 teams. If it's not then the B10 conf is in bigger trouble than I thought.

....But.....but......Bo said so!!!!!!!

 

[condoms SUCk]

....But.....but......Bo said so!!!!!!!

It's a good thing I don't give a flying f#%k what Bo said.

Bo don't know sh!t.

 

[Wolverine1997]

Bo was a great coach for Mich, with that said times have changed.
Sorry B10 championships are nice but NC's should be the main goal for ALL B10 teams. If it's not then the B10 conf is in bigger trouble than I thought.

That's not how we think here in B1G country. The B1G Championship is the goal for everyone. Or at least it should be.

Even in basketball, it is widely known we value the B1G title more than any other conference. In basketball it's thought of as a consolation prize to win your conference in most places. Winning the B1G last year in basketball was the proudest I've ever been of the program since it was in the gutter for 15 years.

I'm actually still disappointed Michigan didn't win the B1G in 1988-89.....and they won the national championship that year!

 

[anarin]

Don't think UNC leaves the ACC.

I will play devil's advocate here.

If UNC leaves who does ACC get to replace them? UCON? Cinci?

UCONN would be a good replacement.

 

[phork]

But, you guys still play FCS teams.

BTW, most of your BIG championships are shared, I think like 10 or 11 are outright? 11 outright titles in the 118 year history of the BIG? Not impressive.

In this era of college ball if you are only playing for the Rose Bowl and the BIG Championship, you are fooling yourself.

The Michigan mystique is a joke. You rag on us for Returning to Glory, yet your last championship before 97 was 46? Come on now.

 

[RallySonsOfND]

That's not how we think here in B1G country. The B1G Championship is the goal for everyone. Or at least it should be.

Even in basketball, it is widely known we value the B1G title more than any other conference. In basketball it's thought of as a consolation prize to win your conference in most places. Winning the B1G last year in basketball was the proudest I've ever been of the program since it was in the gutter for 15 years.

I'm actually still disappointed Michigan didn't win the B1G in 1988-89.....and they won the national championship that year!

I can't take this seriously.


Your goal is to be the best team out of 12 (or 13 or however many are in the B1G) instead of being the best out of the whole country? That don't make no sense.

 

[Wolverine1997]

But, you guys still play FCS teams.

BTW, most of your BIG championships are shared, I think like 10 or 11 are outright? 11 outright titles in the 118 year history of the BIG? Not impressive.

In this era of college ball if you are only playing for the Rose Bowl and the BIG Championship, you are fooling yourself.

The Michigan mystique is a joke. You rag on us for Returning to Glory, yet your last championship before 97 was 46? Come on now.

Actually, It's 16. 42 B1G Championships are what it says all over the football building. Nobody cares or remembers if it was outright or not.

Michigan's last national title before 1997, was 1948.

And if we wanted to be pricks, we could pull a USC and retroactively claim 1973 as a national championship since there were several organizations that credit Michigan with the title for their 10-0-1 season.

Personally, I could care less whether it was outright, co, tri or quad. A title is a title. The trophy sits in Schembechler Hall regardless and the banners in Glick do not say co. But since that model is scrapped, we won't have to worry about it.

Also per Barry Alvarez, the B1G ADs have agreed on no more FCS games when the new 9-10 game conference schedule is implemented. People are giddy about it but it doesn't mean **** really, since there are still lower-level teams in the FBS like idaho or new mexico state.

 

[Kak7304]

But, you guys still play FCS teams.

BTW, most of your BIG championships are shared, I think like 10 or 11 are outright? 11 outright titles in the 118 year history of the BIG? Not impressive.

In this era of college ball if you are only playing for the Rose Bowl and the BIG Championship, you are fooling yourself.

The Michigan mystique is a joke. You rag on us for Returning to Glory, yet your last championship before 97 was 46? Come on now.

But conference championships are all that matter!

 

[Rack Em]

Also per Barry Alvarez, the B1G ADs have agreed on no more FCS games when the new 9-10 game conference schedule is implemented. People are giddy about it but it doesn't mean **** really, since there are still lower-level teams in the FBS like idaho or new mexico state.

Don't act like cutting out FCS teams will make your schedules any harder when you can play these punching bags year in and year out.

Minnesota
Illinois
Purdue
Indiana
Maryland*
Rutgers*
* = soon to be punching bags

And Iowa is working into this category too

 

[Wolverine1997]

Don't act like cutting out FCS teams will make your schedules any harder when you can play these punching bags year in and year out.

Minnesota
Illinois
Purdue
Indiana
Maryland*
Rutgers*
* = soon to be punching bags

And Iowa is working into this category too

Not Michigan's fault the other teams aren't holding up their end of the deal. Can only control what we do.

 

[Rack Em]

Not Michigan's fault the other teams aren't holding up their end of the deal. Can only control what we do.

Join the Big 12...

 

[condoms SUCk]

That's not how we think here in B1G country. The B1G Championship is the goal for everyone. Or at least it should be.

Even in basketball, it is widely known we value the B1G title more than any other conference. In basketball it's thought of as a consolation prize to win your conference in most places. Winning the B1G last year in basketball was the proudest I've ever been of the program since it was in the gutter for 15 years.

I'm actually still disappointed Michigan didn't win the B1G in 1988-89.....and they won the national championship that year!

Thant’s crazy Wolverine, I just don't get that line of thinking where B10 titles are thought of more than NC's.
As I said in my earlier post, if this is the case then the B10 is in SERIOUS trouble. Outside of O$U and Mich the rest of the B10 2013 recruiting rankings are crappy.
These are according to the 247 composite.
24). Neb- OK I guess
26). PSU-this is surprising due to the whole…..well you know
33). MSU-for a top B10 team this is inexcusable.
37). Wisky-I’m dumbfounded with this one.
43). IU-this is actually good for them
46). Ill-not surprised
50 NW-oh well better luck next year

If B10 teams are telling recruits, “who gives a crap about NC’s, here in the B10 we play for B10 titles.” That would explain why the B10 recruited so poorly this year, and why the B10 play has been on a downward trend for the past 10-20 years.

Your new and possible B10 brethren.
28-UNC-respectable I guess
34). Maryland- not great
48). Rutgers-yikes
79-GT-GOOD GAWD

 

[WakeUpEchoes]

MSU has notoriously bad recruiting years, yet still thrives in the Big10, wins the championship then gets pounded by an SEC team.

Look back to 2006. They barely have broken the to 20, and I think that was only once.

 

[condoms SUCk]

MSU has notoriously bad recruiting years, yet still thrives in the Big10, wins the championship then gets pounded by an SEC team.

Look back to 2006. They barely have broken the to 20, and I think that was only once.

Correct, but when the other teams in the conf recruit like crap too of course you are going be able to compete.

Back on topic-
UNC will not join the B10 unless the 4 super conf take shape then who knows.

GT-??? how on earth that psycho b!tch Delany thinks he can get GT is my question. GT and the B10 is a good of a mixture as a solution of polar and non-polar liquids

 

[WakeUpEchoes]

Correct, but when the other teams in the conf recruit like crap too of course you are going be able to compete.

Back on topic-
UNC will not join the B10 unless the 4 super conf take shape then who knows.

GT-??? how on earth that psycho b!tch Delany thinks he can get GT is my question. GT and the B10 is a good of a mixture as a solution of polar and non-polar liquids

That was kind of my point.

I will be shocked if UNC goes as well.

 

[condoms SUCk]

That was kind of my point.

I will be shocked if UNC goes as well.

Sorry, I should have removed the " but"

I would be shocked if UNC left too, as someone mentioned I don't see UNC breaking up w/ Duke.
You just never know, money makes you do crazy things.

 

[greyhammer90]

That's not how we think here in B1G country. The B1G Championship is the goal for everyone. Or at least it should be.

If any ND fans were wondering why we should never join the B1G, this is a pretty damning one.

Enjoy the mediocrity!

 

[GowerND11]

If you want to win the B1G that's great. Good for Michigan. It should be A goal not THE goal for teams in the B1G. Stop being pretentious a$$wipes spewing something Bo said 40 years ago. Winning the B1G is a great thing to accomplish, but you are either too proud or too dumb to realize that winning the B1G should be a goal reached to achieve the next goal. Play in the Natty. The next goal: Win the Natty.

Another thing, you are upset with your basketball program for being crowned the best team in the nation, but not winning a tourney of 10 teams? GTFO of here with that crap.

 

[rocket66]

That old school "we play to win our conference" talk will be minimized big time once the playoff format begins. Every game in the season will be equally important regardless of being a Big10 game or not. The goal should be to make the playoffs, end of story. Winning the conference will be a secondary concern, and if any coach tries to make it primary at a big time school then they won't be around long.

 

[koonja]

I hope the SEC team is either Florida or Georgia. That's where the talent is.

 

[phork]

You can't just be happy with winning your conference and then continue to pound your chest with arrogance as your birth right. Winning your conference means jack squat when your conference, in football, is just a good as the WAC when it comes to competing with the big kids.

Want to know why ND doesn't want to join the BIG? It doesn't have to. It doesn't want to be a Midwest regionalized program. It recruits nationally & plays a national schedule while you guys fight with MSU and OSU for midwest kids. We don't need your money. And lastly, karma is a bitch. We tried joining several times but were rebuffed mostly by Michigan ADs submarining our bids. You need us more than we need you.

 

[koonja]

negative reps, FTW.

Positive reps, FTW.

 

[koonja]

FWIW, I live in Wisconsin, and Badger fans care way more about the BCS games than winning the B1G. I literally just asked a kid in class and he said it's not even close.

 

[condoms SUCk]

FWIW, I live in Wisconsin, and Badger fans care way more about the BCS games than winning the B1G. I literally just asked a kid in class and he said it's not even close.

Yeah, asked my roommate who's a HUGE O$U fan and he said the same thing NC>B10 title game.
He did say however that B10 fans do hold the B10 title game in reverence, but that b/c most B10 teams can't compete at the national level so they relegate themselves to just settling for a B10 title.

 

[Rack Em]

You can't just be happy with winning your conference and then continue to pound your chest with arrogance as your birth right. Winning your conference means jack squat when your conference, in football, is just a good as the WAC when it comes to competing with the big kids.

Want to know why ND doesn't want to join the BIG? It doesn't have to. It doesn't want to be a Midwest regionalized program. It recruits nationally & plays a national schedule while you guys fight with MSU and OSU for midwest kids. We don't need your money. And lastly, karma is a bitch. We tried joining several times but were rebuffed mostly by Michigan ADs submarining our bids. You need us more than we need you.

PREACH!

The B1G just got phork'd in the a$$.

 

[Irish Houstonian]

The Force is strong in this Wolverine1997

/s/

ALLGATOR

 

[RDU Irish]

Just talked to Jack Swarbrick about this (not lying) he says the only reason teams will move is if they are bankrupt (ie Marylamd). He sees other teams going, unnamed, but not UVA, UNC. Also sees Catholic 7 adding Xavier, Butler. He talked for 30 mins at my dorm and answered all questions. Great guy, brilliant. He also said that joining the Catholic 7 would be good for one thing- Catholicism, bad for everything else.

Reps, nice info. Jack is the sh!t for sure.

Who wants to look up info on the "Lambeau field turf system" and report back to this thread?

 

[GowerND11]

Reps, nice info. Jack is the sh!t for sure.

Who wants to look up info on the "Lambeau field turf system" and report back to this thread?

Synthetically reinforced natural turf installed at Lambeau Field - Geosynthetics - From 2007 when new system was put in place.

Lambeau Field - I assume the company that did it?

 

[Wolverine1997]

MSU has notoriously bad recruiting years, yet still thrives in the Big10, wins the championship then gets pounded by an SEC team.

Look back to 2006. They barely have broken the to 20, and I think that was only once.

They are the first example I point to with everyone putting so much merit into recruiting rankings. Them and wisconsin. Wisconsin has only 3 straight B1G titles.

I trust what the coaches think of a player. They are the ones offering scholarships. Not some overweight "scout" named Dieter who asses stars and thinks it is the gospel truth.

Ya know some RB named Mike Hart was a 2 star, and he did pretty well here. Has every record in rushing. While guys like Kevin Grady aka the greatest RB in Michigan HS Football history did next-to-nothing here for 5 years.

You can't just be happy with winning your conference and then continue to pound your chest with arrogance as your birth right. Winning your conference means jack squat when your conference, in football, is just a good as the WAC when it comes to competing with the big kids.

Want to know why ND doesn't want to join the BIG? It doesn't have to. It doesn't want to be a Midwest regionalized program. It recruits nationally & plays a national schedule while you guys fight with MSU and OSU for midwest kids. We don't need your money. And lastly, karma is a bitch. We tried joining several times but were rebuffed mostly by Michigan ADs submarining our bids. You need us more than we need you.

I'm pretty much done with the ND project. They want nothing to do with any us, that's fine.

All we can do is just play our conference games against nebraska, ohio, state, wisconsin and ND can play their new rivals in NC State, Wake Forest, Duke etc...