Luckiest Teams in College Football

ThePiombino

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LSU Tigers, Notre Dame Fighting Irish among luckiest teams - NCF - ESPN

It's an ESPN insider article. Could somebody with access give us an overview?

I don't have access, but I can prolly assist:

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Normally, that's what I would assume, and wouldn't give it a second thought, but these are based on statistics from Fremeau at Football Outsiders (those FEI stats some of the guys post where they take strength of schedule and other stuff into account).
 

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Normally, that's what I would assume, and wouldn't give it a second thought, but these are based on statistics from Fremeau at Football Outsiders (those FEI stats some of the guys post where they take strength of schedule and other stuff into account).

lol Hopefully someone with access will come along soon to summarize.
 

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5 luckiest:

1. OSU
2. LSU
3. Stanford
4. Louisville
5. Notre Dame


Their definition of luck takes into account record in one possession games, turnover margin, field position, and special teams.

FEI also has ND as one of the most balanced teams in their rankings, 6th in offense, 2nd in defense.
 
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In the old generation of NCAA games for PS2. Lee Corso said that "luck is when hard work meets opportunity my friend".
 

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Curious as to why Stanford is on there...


they won 7 games by a TD or less.

teams are expected to be around .500 in close games so them winning so many in one year is "lucky" based on FEI's definition. Again, they don't mean lucky like everyone else means lucky.
 

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Notre Dame won 1.6 more games than predicted with their schedule. Lucky wins against Pitt and Stanford. Close wins over Purdue, BYU, and Michigan. But were more balanced than people give credit. When adjusted we were number 6 in offensive efficiency and 2 in defensive. Bad special teams is what drove the close games.


Edit. Clashmore got to it first.
 

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Here's a recent article by Fremeau addressing ND's "luck".

Notre Dame did win one game in which the margin gained on turnovers exceeded the scoring margin in the game. Against Michigan, the Irish collected 12.7 points in total turnover value and won the game 13-6. But in most of their other victories this year, the Irish were overcoming turnover, special teams, or field position deficits.

Take the Pittsburgh game, for instance, the triple-overtime thriller against a mediocre opponent that nearly cost them a trip to Miami. The Irish gave up 14.0 points in turnover value in the game and still eked out a victory. In FBS games this year, only two teams overcame a larger turnover deficit and won. Duke beat Memphis despite an 18.8 point deficit in turnover value, and Virginia beat Penn State despite a 15.7 point deficit in turnover value.

The Irish won twice in 2012 despite losing the field position, turnover, and special teams battles in a single game: close victories over Purdue and BYU. Over the course of the season, Notre Dame won 10 games in which it had a deficit in at least one of those three factors, and 8 games in which it had a deficit in at least two of those factors. No other team overcame as many combined field position, turnover, and special deficits as Notre Dame. Does that make them lucky?

From the perspective of FEI, these elements are actually a big reason why the Irish are considered one of the best teams in the country, not one of the luckiest. Notre Dame’s opponent-adjusted offense is ranked eighth, and its opponent-adjusted defense is ranked second. It’s the non-offensive and non-defensive stuff like special teams (88th) that are holding back the Irish from passing the eye test in more people’s eyes. These might be the factors that hold the Irish back from winning the BCS title game as well, but it shouldn’t be a reason to knock them for what they have accomplished to date.
 

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Notre Dame won 1.6 more games than predicted with their schedule. Lucky wins against Pitt and Stanford. Close wins over Purdue, BYU, and Michigan. But were more balanced than people give credit. When adjusted we were number 6 in offensive efficiency and 2 in defensive. Bad special teams is what drove the close games.

Edit. Clashmore got to it first.

I'm very nervous about the special teams. If Alabama has a clear advantage in the BCS title game its on special teams. Glad to see Kyle B. make 5 of 6 FGs vs USC, but he has been shakey most of the year. ND also has no return game to speak of what so ever. On the bright side the kick and punt coverage has been solid.
 

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26 of 27 for PAT and 23 of 31 for FG.

I wouldn't call that shaky.

Agreed. That's a 74% clip.

Ruffer's stats last year:
10 for 16 FG 62.5%

47 for 47 on PAT

ADDITION: He's 47th in the country in FG Pct. Not elite, but pretty decent.
 
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One of my favorite quotes..."The better you are, the more luck you have".
 

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The more big 10 schools you schedule, the luckier you are.....
 
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