Oct 13 | Stanford

[irishff1014]

I think the key to the game is Everett Golson's ability to neutralize Stanford's defensive speed rushing the passer, and how well our TE's block their linebackers.

Chase Thomas (#44) is very difficult to block and they do all kinds of things to disguise him and match him up with blockers who he can beat when rushing the passer. We could not block him last year either running or passing.

If Niklas/Koyack/Eifert/can neutralize Thomas in the run game, and if Golson can elude Thomas when he does beat our offensive linemen, we should win.

Send the beast (Niklas) after him.

 

[BGIF]

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Stanford Primer

08 October 2012 Sean Stires

 

[NDdomer2]

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Forgive me if this was posted somewhere already.

 

[Black Irish]

I think the key to the game is Everett Golson's ability to neutralize Stanford's defensive speed rushing the passer, and how well our TE's block their linebackers.

Chase Thomas (#44) is very difficult to block and they do all kinds of things to disguise him and match him up with blockers who he can beat when rushing the passer. We could not block him last year either running or passing.

If Niklas/Koyack/Eifert/can neutralize Thomas in the run game, and if Golson can elude Thomas when he does beat our offensive linemen, we should win.

Is this Thomas normally a blind side rusher or will Golson at least see him coming?

 

[Cackalacky]

Is this Thomas normally a blind side rusher or will Golson at least see him coming?

They do all kinds of stuff with him. Our OL needs to be fully prepared.

 

[Cackalacky]

Send the beast (Niklas) after him.

This. I would put Niklas in as a FB and have him just hang out in the pocket with Golson and take out anyone who gets near Golson.

 

[Black Irish]

They do all kinds of stuff with him. Our OL needs to be fully prepared.

Great. Our RBs better be prepared to do some blocking as well (looking at you, Cierre).

 

[BGIF]

Can Notre Dame's run game be just as effective vs. Stanford? - southbendtribune.com

Al Lesar
9:02 p.m. EDT, October 8, 2012

...

The Cardinal defense is ranked sixth in the country against the run, yielding just 77 yards a game.

Even last week's overtime shootout victory over Arizona didn't hurt that ranking. Stanford allowed 48 points and 617 yards, but Arizona managed just 126 rushing.

The mission of the Notre Dame offense is to be able to run the ball well enough that it can pass when it wants to, not when it has to.

...

 

[irishpat183]

We keep playing solid D, don't turn it over, and we win.

How's that for a breakdown?


Seriously,

We need to stick to the run. It won't be easy early and we aren't going for over 3 bills again like last week, but we need to wear down their LBer's. That will open up play action and give Golson more time later in the game.

Limit the damage done by the TE's. This is a matchup that scares me. Neither of our safeties gives me much confidence against Toilolo or Ertz...Toilolo went off for 141 yards last week (yes, it was AZ, but still very impressive). I think that was his "coming out party". I figure agasint us, they're watching Motta and planning to get him in situations where he's having to cover one of them. So how we adjust is going to be key.

Stop the run. We treat Taylor like we treated Bell, and we really limit what they can do offensively.

We win, in the end, 24-10.

 

[NDdomer2]

The only thing that concerns me from the Miami game is their coaching clearly found something in the way we lined up to their initial formation and exploited it right off the bat.

Hopefully we can do some "self scouting" to make sure we aren't giving too many tendencies away.

 

[PANDFAN]

We keep playing solid D, don't turn it over, and we win.

How's that for a breakdown?


Seriously,

We need to stick to the run. It won't be easy early and we aren't going for over 3 bills again like last week, but we need to wear down their LBer's. That will open up play action and give Golson more time later in the game.

Limit the damage done by the TE's. This is a matchup that scares me. Neither of our safeties gives me much confidence against Toilolo or Ertz...Toilolo went off for 141 yards last week (yes, it was AZ, but still very impressive). I think that was his "coming out party". I figure agasint us, they're watching Motta and planning to get him in situations where he's having to cover one of them. So how we adjust is going to be key.

Stop the run. We treat Taylor like we treated Bell, and we really limit what they can do offensively.

We win, in the end, 24-10.

He actually had 2 or 3 drops on their final drive or his #'s would have been even higher...the dude is huuuuuuge

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

This. I would put Niklas in as a FB and have him just hang out in the pocket with Golson and take out anyone who gets near Golson.

I wouldn't mind seeing that.

 

[BGIF]

The only thing that concerns me from the Miami game is their coaching clearly found something in the way we lined up to their initial formation and exploited it right off the bat.

Hopefully we can do some "self scouting" to make sure we aren't giving too many tendencies away.

ND has done the same thing with Chris Brown and scored the same number of points, zero.

Good play call; poor execution. In one case by a QB; the other by a WR.

 

[NDdomer2]

ND has done the same thing with Chris Brown and scored the same number of points, zero.

Good play call; poor execution. In one case by a QB; the other by a WR.

So we should just not address it because he dropped it?

 

[BGIF]

This. I would put Niklas in as a FB and have him just hang out in the pocket with Golson and take out anyone who gets near Golson.

Niklas has taken 5 games to learn how to handle this position and you want to move him to a 3rd position?

How many plays does he have to learn? How many audibles?


Besides let's look at the obvious. He's on the OLine, effectively as the 3rd or 4th OT for a reason. They don't get the job done with 5.

Put Niklas in the backfield and he's most likely blocking the man he would have been blocking at the LOS.

And now that the defense has an EXTRA defender in the box. Who has the guy you put Niklas in the backfield to block?

Koyack has potential but he's not showing it as a blocking TE.



Why screw with what's starting to come together?

 

[caligold]

I am always amazed at how Toilolo is able to run with those freaking knee braces he wears. Frickin Robocop legs.

 

[BGIF]

So we should just not address it because he dropped it?

It was addressed and corrected by the DC and DB coaches after the first series. Two muffs by the same open man in the same series then NOTHING.

Correct me if I'm wrong but Miami didn't score any TDs through the air, did they?

 

[Cackalacky]

Niklas has taken 5 games to learn how to handle this position and you want to move him to a 3rd position?

How many plays does he have to learn? How many audibles?


Besides let's look at the obvious. He's on the OLine, effectively as the 3rd or 4th OT for a reason. They don't get the job done with 5.

Put Niklas in the backfield and he's most likely blocking the man he would have been blocking at the LOS.

And now that the defense has an EXTRA defender in the box. Who has the guy you put Niklas in the backfield to block?

Koyack has potential but he's not showing it as a blocking TE.



Why screw with what's starting to come together?

wow i forgot my italics or smiley. was not serious..... oh right there was a smiley.... C'mon bro

 

[NDdomer2]

It was addressed and corrected by the DC and DB coaches after the first series. Two muffs by the same open man in the same series then NOTHING.

Correct me if I'm wrong but Miami didn't score any TDs through the air, did they?

They didn't score any td's period.

I suppose I am not allowed to have a concern because they didn't score any td's. Since we haven't given any up in three games I should just assume Stanford won't score any either.

My concern wasn't about the whole game just that we need to make sure we are self scouting our tendencies of coverage toward formations.

EDIT: You can usually only call a play like Miami's first one single time, because as you said the coaching staff adjusts.

Miami saw something and went for the throat first play of the game knowing if they line up in this formation they will get cover 2. It is your ONLY chance to get it.

Every team has around 5 plays a week that they know they only get that one single chance and as you said you have to execute.

 

[aubeirish]

It was addressed and corrected by the DC and DB coaches after the first series. Two muffs by the same open man in the same series then NOTHING.

Correct me if I'm wrong but Miami didn't score any TDs through the air, did they?

Exactly. You can't really see it on TV, but I'm sure Miami tried to constantly connect on the deep pass even after the drops. Logic dictates that even if your guy dropped 2, he can't drop them all. Our guys in the secondary simply adjusted. They are doing a fantastic job back there. Still a lot of learning to be done, but the progress and the way these guys have been performing is incredible. I am so impressed and proud of these guys.

 

[Cackalacky]

Exactly. You can't really see it on TV, but I'm sure Miami tried to constantly connect on the deep pass even after the drops. Logic dictates that even if your guy dropped 2, he can't drop them all. Our guys in the secondary simply adjusted. They are doing a fantastic job back there. Still a lot of learning to be done, but the progress and the way these guys have been performing is incredible. I am so impressed and proud of these guys.

I have also heard several times that ND was not ready for Miami's speed and it was evident in the 1st series and we lucked out with the drops. that being siad, they adjusted after that both scheme and execution and on that point, makes me extremely happy. Adjustments are key and that is not something we have done successfully in the past.

 

[koonja]

Niklas has taken 5 games to learn how to handle this position and you want to move him to a 3rd position?

How many plays does he have to learn? How many audibles?


Besides let's look at the obvious. He's on the OLine, effectively as the 3rd or 4th OT for a reason. They don't get the job done with 5.

Put Niklas in the backfield and he's most likely blocking the man he would have been blocking at the LOS.

And now that the defense has an EXTRA defender in the box. Who has the guy you put Niklas in the backfield to block?

Koyack has potential but he's not showing it as a blocking TE.



Why screw with what's starting to come together?

Hey, weren't you advocating him be moved to defense for this game? .

 

[Patulski]

Is this Thomas normally a blind side rusher or will Golson at least see him coming?

Here's how they used him last year.

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[tko]

hey, Koyack ole at 1:17.

 

[Who'saWildManNow]

Kid was all over the place..

He's averaging 5.6 tackles a game this year but I haven't watched a lot of Stanford football so I'm not sure if he is as disruptive.

 

[BGIF]

Hey, weren't you advocating him be moved to defense for this game? .

I said I'd be tempted if I was the DC.

He DID start last year at LB as a freshman and played well. So that's not a new position. is it?

I rather have Niklas covering the 6-8, 263 Toilolo or the 6-6, 247 Ertz than 6-3 Fox or 6-1 Calabrese. I take Niklas on Stephon Taylor over Fox or Calabrese.

We like our skyscrapers at TE but we have used them effectively as TE receivers because they've had to be kept in largely as mandatory pass blockers. Do we run a TE drag? Or any kind of TE delay? We don't see to.

SU gets their TEs in space, Toilolo had a 20yd/catch game against Zona. If we're dropping as many back in coverage as we did against Miami, Taylor is going to have a BIG game.

I don't have a concern about SU's WR. It's their TEs that make them go. And I really don't want to see our meager stable of CBs trying to tackle a lumbering 263 pounder in the open field. They make a Covington stop but we can afford the wear and tear, to few bodies back there.

 

[beryirish]

BK on loss to Stanford last year: We had a ton of negative plays last year.

 

[beryirish]

...We had one negative play against Miami

at Notre Dame you must communicate directly with your players about the distractions.

 

[JughedJones]

BK on loss to Stanford last year: We had a ton of negative plays last year.

If this is the presser, thanks man.

where can I watch it?

 

[beryirish]

We are stronger both mentally and physically than we were last year against Stanford.

on Battering Cam: we have no hesitation putting him in the game, but we only have one football.