Revised season prediction - bye week

[woolybug25]

1) USC
2) Stan
3) OU
4) Miami
5) BYU
6) Pitt
7) BC
8) WF

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[RDU Irish]

I give us better than 25% to beat USC, more like 50/50. We will be up for that game and our depth is much better than them, an important factor late in the season.

I have revised us up to 10-2 from an intial 9-3 estimate. I thought MSU or Michigan would be one of those losses. I am split on the Stan/OU/USC top tier of opponents left on the schedule. We can just as easily go 2-1 as 1-2, IMO. If we do 2-1, I put a higher probability on someone else delivering a WTF loss.

If we don't see good strides on offense against Miami I will be worried but I am having a hard time seeing this defense lose more than three games this season.

 

[irishpat183]

Sticking with 8-4/9-3....I know, I know....

I still think Stanford, OU, USC, and BYU are gonna be very tough games.

Our D is fantastic, but to ask them to play like they have, for the remainder of the season, is not being realistic. And, right now (it could change), I'm not confident in our offense at all.

I need to see something from our offense before I jump on the 10-2 or Nat champ bandwagon.

 

[NDHoosier101]

BYU is awful. I've watched two of their games, assumed they would be tough, and they aren't. Yes they won 10 games last year, but didn't beat anyone if you look at their schedule.

 

[Irish Houstonian]

I don't think Stanford will be as tough as people think. That is, it won't be as tough as USC or Oklahoma for ND.

Seems like the world is looking at their win vs USC, which was pretty impressive. But, a lot of that win was surprise -- USC just wasn't schematically prepared for their rush, and thus gave up a lot of sacks and turnovers. Now that we have the benefit of seeing that game we won't make the same mistake.

 

[irishpat183]

BYU is awful. I've watched two of their games, assumed they would be tough, and they aren't. Yes they won 10 games last year, but didn't beat anyone if you look at their schedule.

Remember how "awful" Purdue was supposed to be this year???


And they've lost to Utah by 3 and Boise by 1...... They're not "awful".

 

[Bubba]

I don't think Stanford will be as tough as people think. That is, it won't be as tough as USC or Oklahoma for ND.

Seems like the world is looking at their win vs USC, which was pretty impressive. But, a lot of that win was surprise -- USC just wasn't schematically prepared for their rush, and thus gave up a lot of sacks and turnovers. Now that we have the benefit of seeing that game we won't make the same mistake.

When a team has beaten you two straight and 3 out of the last 4, you should be prepared. Shame on USC if they underestimated the Cardinal. I think Stanford is still pretty darn good. I admit, before the season I had figured they would not be as good. They are steadily proving people wrong, just like we are.

 

[irishpat183]

I don't think Stanford will be as tough as people think. That is, it won't be as tough as USC or Oklahoma for ND.

Seems like the world is looking at their win vs USC, which was pretty impressive. But, a lot of that win was surprise -- USC just wasn't schematically prepared for their rush, and thus gave up a lot of sacks and turnovers. Now that we have the benefit of seeing that game we won't make the same mistake.

But our offense is a lot more inexperienced than USC's.....If Barkley couldn't handle that, what makes you think Golson/Rees could? (and if you even hint that either one of them is better than Barkley, I'll smack you through the screen...LOL)


Playing devils advocate here

 

[Bubba]

1) USC
2) Stan
3) OU
4) Miami
5) BYU
6) Pitt
7) BC
8) WF

In my opinion, those top 3 could be in any order you choose. From week to week it could change. I think I would actually put WF ahead of BC.

 

[NDHoosier101]

Remember how "awful" Purdue was supposed to be this year???


And they've lost to Utah by 3 and Boise by 1...... They're not "awful".

Purdue looks like they're are going to be competing for a B1G title this year. We didn't know who they were cause ND was their second game of the season. I'm not a fan of trasative property, but when I look at what we did to a team that beat boise in a game that really could have been a blowout had the QB not thrown so many picks, I laugh when I think about playing a team that lost to Boise. Also Utah got blown out by about 30 points against the arizona st. Sun devils. Both are bad losses for a team expecting to go places this year. We won't have any trouble with them.

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

4-8

 

[irishpat183]

Purdue looks like they're are going to be competing for a B1G title this year. We didn't know who they were cause ND was their second game of the season. I'm not a fan of trasative property, but when I look at what we did to a team that beat boise in a game that really could have been a blowout had the QB not thrown so many picks, I laugh when I think about playing a team that lost to Boise. Also Utah got blow about by about 30 points against the arizona st. Sun devils. Both are bad losses for a team expecting to go places this year. We won't have any trouble with them.

Famous last words.....

And this "we didn't know who they were" is crap They pimped us around all day on the line. We are well aware of who Purdue is. We play them every year.

What I'm saying is that so many on here were saying what a push over Purdue was going to be....We can come up with excuses all day, but because of our offense, I don't think we're gonna have many "push overs"

 

[irishpat183]

4-8

LOL.....Talk about a collapse for the ages

 

[Irish Houstonian]

When a team has beaten you two straight and 3 out of the last 4, you should be prepared. Shame on USC if they underestimated the Cardinal. I think Stanford is still pretty darn good. I admit, before the season I had figured they would not be as good. They are steadily proving people wrong, just like we are.

No, Stanford will definitely be the #3 toughest game left. And we should no-doubt be prepared. We just have the benefit of hindsight that USC didn't have, and we'll be at home.

USC threw 2 picks, lost a fumble, and went 1-13 on third downs due to stunts and a pass rush that they just didn't anticipate. And even then Lee had 8 catches for 100 yards. Now that we know that this is something to guard against it puts us in a much better position.

(Also would help to not give up 200+ total yards to Stephon Taylor...But again a lot of those come from the excess possessions from turnovers and punts).

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

LOL.....Talk about a collapse for the ages

I'm pretty sure 100% of IE would become alcoholics, Brian Kelly would be framed for murder, and NDNation would be pretty content. All terrible.

 

[irishpat183]

No, Stanford will definitely be the #3 toughest game left. And we should no-doubt be prepared. We just have the benefit of hindsight that USC didn't have, and we'll be at home.

USC threw 2 picks, lost a fumble, and went 1-13 on third downs due to stunts and a pass rush that they just didn't anticipate. And even then Lee had 8 catches for 100 yards. Now that we know that this is something to guard against it puts us in a much better position.

(Also would help to not give up 200+ total yards to Stephon Taylor...But again a lot of those come from the excess possessions from turnovers and punts).

Our offense is just as capable of that line....sadly.


point is, we need the offense to get it's a$$ in gear. The D is there. But we can't hold everyone outta the endzone. (that would be awesome)

 

[irishpat183]

I'm pretty sure 100% of IE would become alcoholics, Brian Kelly would be framed for murder, and NDNation would be pretty content. All terrible.

I would have to move. My friends would NEVER let me live that down

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

One thing to point out is that Oklahoma really struggled in their first 2 D1A games. That UTEP game was close until the end and they lost to Kansas State. Oklahoma could very well just be overrated as always. I think the USC game is tougher at this point.

 

[irishpat183]

One thing to point out is that Oklahoma really struggled in their first 2 D1A games. That UTEP game was close until the end and they lost to Kansas State. Oklahoma could very well just be overrated as always. I think the USC game is tougher at this point.

But I think OU is tough matchup for us as far as their style of offense.

But you're right, they very well may be overrated. But it's still a tough game on the road.

 

[NDhoosier]

Famous last words.....

And this "we didn't know who they were" is crap They pimped us around all day on the line. We are well aware of who Purdue is. We play them every year.

What I'm saying is that so many on here were saying what a push over Purdue was going to be....We can come up with excuses all day, but because of our offense, I don't think we're gonna have many "push overs"

Similar to all the people who were scared out their wits about MSU... ya, that game was close. BYU is overrated by some on this board.

 

[irishpat183]

Similar to all the people who were scared out their wits about MSU... ya, that game was close. BYU is overrated by some on this board.

I'd rather be wrong that way, than underestimating...

 

[irishtrain]

Sitting at a LOVELY 4-0 after the first third of the season. Bye week allows the guys to rest up and re-focus on the upcoming, middle of the season schedule which looks like it won't get any easier. This schedule is brutal, and IMO, the bye week couldn't have come at a better time, coming off of two emotional wins.

I expect to beat Miami.

After that it's 3 very challenging weeks in a row. Starting with #8 Stanford, BYU, and #16 Oklahoma. 2 of the 3 are home, and I'd be happy to win 2 of those 3 games.

So IMO, we're sitting 7-1, 4 weeks from now.

Then it's the last third of the schedule, and if there was a soft-spot in the schedule, it'd be the end.

Should be favored heavily against Pitt, BC, and Wake. Sprinkle in the USC game, and I'd be happy if we went 3-1 through that stretch.

Optimistic = 10-2.

Realistic = 9-3. Still think that unless we get rolling offensively, we lose at least one game we should be favored in. And 9-3 is pretty damn good.

8-4. Dont see them beating Stanford/Miami/southern cal/with a stub your toe loss in there somewhere else. These guys have already had a spectacular season. I'm staying negative as it has worked so far. My question is how will the bye week help/hinder. Will they start feeling like there's something to lose instead of playing with house $$$ and go for it. If they beat Miami I may adjust my thinking. Miami is very good and dont let the K State game fool you. They are super fast.

 

[NDHoosier101]

I'd rather be wrong that way, than underestimating...

Fair enough, I just believe we are on another level than BYU, don't worry though, I won't tell our players that.

 

[NDGOLDEN]

You know what they say defense wins championships! and if teams are only gonna be able to score 10 or fewer points on us i think we can win every game. Unless our offense really cant get going then were in trouble.

 

[irishpat183]

8-4. Dont see them beating Stanford/Miami/southern cal/with a stub your toe loss in there somewhere else. These guys have already had a spectacular season. I'm staying negative as it has worked so far. My question is how will the bye week help/hinder. Will they start feeling like there's something to lose instead of playing with house $$$ and go for it. If they beat Miami I may adjust my thinking. Miami is very good and dont let the K State game fool you. They are super fast.

Very true. I think the Kstate/OU game was more of an indication as to how good Kstate is, not how overrated OU is. I love Kline, dude plays tough.

 

[IrishJayhawk]

Very true. I think the Kstate/OU game was more of an indication as to how good Kstate is, not how overrated OU is. I love Kline, dude plays tough.

And Bill Snyder has (a) magic or (b) a pact with the devil.

Amazing coach.

 

[WakeUpEchoes]

8-4. Dont see them beating Stanford/Miami/southern cal/with a stub your toe loss in there somewhere else. These guys have already had a spectacular season. I'm staying negative as it has worked so far. My question is how will the bye week help/hinder. Will they start feeling like there's something to lose instead of playing with house $$$ and go for it. If they beat Miami I may adjust my thinking. Miami is very good and dont let the K State game fool you. They are super fast.

I'm staying negative too. Although I don't completely agree with it (and please hesitate before you light me up), I do think there is some truth to the fact that teams we have played are worse than we thought. I think the saving grace can be peaking. If ND can peak on all cylinders by Oklahoma, then it could be something special. I'm not ready to say 10-2, and if we win games were supposed to win and lose ones were supposed to lose, I think 9-3. Again, saving grace can be peaking at right time.

 

[IndyIrishFan1]

6-6 = WTF HAPPENED?!
7-5 = Pretty pissed
8-4 = content, slightly disappointed
9-3 = expected right now
10-2 = immensely happy
11-1 = uncontrollable excitement
12-0 = perpetual orgasms

Buster, I'm requesting a .gif to go with each of these scenarios. Keep the last one SFW!

 

[mick2]

what's the point of being a fan if you're going to stay negative?

i would say i am cautiously optimistic.

 

[RallySonsOfND]

We goin' undefeated boys!!!! 12-0. National Title Game.


Calling it here right now.

And yes I'm drinking green kool-aid (mountain dew) at the moment.







GO IRISH!

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